EE: Who are the third wheels?
Carol Jackson - Massive storyline with the cancer but despite Sonia and Rebecca coming back I don't think she's had a place since Bianca left. Her role was that of the glue behind the often chaotic Jackson household. Now she seems to be rattling around waiting for a storyline.
Alfie Moon - Aside from his on again/off again relationship with Kat (a storyline that's so done to death now it's ridiculous) what is Alfie for? Surely he fulfils a role more suitable for someone at leat 20 years younger; wheel-dealer, cheeky-chappie, cash-in-hand wide-boy. There doesn't seem to be much to his character besides this and without Kat he doesn't seem to serve much of a purpose.
Billy Mitchell - Okay he has Lola and Lexi, but would they really suffer without him? Other than looking helpless every so often I think that character has run its course. I think a period of truly 'on-her-own' young single mother would be good for Lola's character
Max Branning - Lauren's gone (for now), Emma's dead, Tanya isn't returning and Abi seems to be tied up with a stoyline with Ben. It's not as if there's a big call for used cars. Once Phil gets his 'revenge', I can't see much point in Max sticking around
Cora Cross - I'd say it's unlikely Rainie probably isn't returning as a full-time character, Tanya's gone, Dexter and Ava are gone and when Lauren went she wasn't even important enough to be sought out to say her goodbyes. She had potential as a matriarch but for one reason or another she no longer serves a purpose and once Stan dies it's hard to think how she could possibly be of any use.
I wouldn't be disappointed to see these characters be written out to make room for others. Max in particular is rattling around in that big 4/5 bedroom house on his own. Prime real estate for a new family to utilise or even upgrade one of the younger cast members to see if they can make it work as a stand-alone 'adult' family unit (maybe Martin, Stacey and Lilly, Jay, Lola and Lexi or Charlie, Ronnie and Matthew)
Alfie Moon - Aside from his on again/off again relationship with Kat (a storyline that's so done to death now it's ridiculous) what is Alfie for? Surely he fulfils a role more suitable for someone at leat 20 years younger; wheel-dealer, cheeky-chappie, cash-in-hand wide-boy. There doesn't seem to be much to his character besides this and without Kat he doesn't seem to serve much of a purpose.
Billy Mitchell - Okay he has Lola and Lexi, but would they really suffer without him? Other than looking helpless every so often I think that character has run its course. I think a period of truly 'on-her-own' young single mother would be good for Lola's character
Max Branning - Lauren's gone (for now), Emma's dead, Tanya isn't returning and Abi seems to be tied up with a stoyline with Ben. It's not as if there's a big call for used cars. Once Phil gets his 'revenge', I can't see much point in Max sticking around
Cora Cross - I'd say it's unlikely Rainie probably isn't returning as a full-time character, Tanya's gone, Dexter and Ava are gone and when Lauren went she wasn't even important enough to be sought out to say her goodbyes. She had potential as a matriarch but for one reason or another she no longer serves a purpose and once Stan dies it's hard to think how she could possibly be of any use.
I wouldn't be disappointed to see these characters be written out to make room for others. Max in particular is rattling around in that big 4/5 bedroom house on his own. Prime real estate for a new family to utilise or even upgrade one of the younger cast members to see if they can make it work as a stand-alone 'adult' family unit (maybe Martin, Stacey and Lilly, Jay, Lola and Lexi or Charlie, Ronnie and Matthew)
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I can agree with what you say. I hope Max leaves soon. Although they need to their best to hold on to Carol as she is one of the best actresses ever in a soap. She should be the new matriarch to the whole Branning/Jackson family, but that would mean bringing more siblings of hers. She's got Sonia, but she should be even more involved with Charlie and sort Max out and get him to leave.
It's a shame with Cora. I think they made a mistake bringing Dexter in. Ava was a very good actress and they could be living together still.
Billy is a Mitchell and a long standing character so it's highly unlikely he will be axed but he should be!
DTC seems to like Alfie and if Alfie leaves then Kat will too.
Carol & Cora still have a place and both are played by fine Actresses but the latter has been criminally wasted by DTC.
Max will definately not be axed.
Dexter and Sam wrecked the Cora/Ava relationship - a huge mistake by Lorraine Newman bringing in Dexter & Sam.
I'd have plans for all of them...
I'd bring back Robbie Javkson and Tiffany Butcher to give Carol more of a matriarch status and you know Buster? He wouldn't he typically paired up with Shirley, I'd put Carol and Buster in a dynamic relationship... This would give Carol many storylines and she will be able to connect with more characters, I'd also make Carol more of an agony aunt, she plays an agony aunt better than St. Stacey, which just feels extremely forced! Linsey Coulson is such a fantastic actress and she deserves lots of big material, which she hasn't really had, since her cancer storyline.
For Max, I'd give him a depression storyline... Carol will also be there to help Max through this, as Abi would be going through a really bitchy stage, where she influences Max's depression and we'd really see a dynamic Father/Daughter relationship between the two. Max would try to commit suicide, as he believes he has no one, forcing Carol to seek emergency help for Max. Max will then realise that he needs to get his life back on track and have therapy sessions. I'd also have a big Max Vs. Phil storyline, where Max actually comes out on top instead of Phil... All of that beats Max sleeping around with whoever he sets his eyes on. Jake Wood deserves more than that, he's a sensational actor!
For Billy, I'd bring in a transgender partner for him. Billy will find out his partner is a transgender woman, after months of them dating. Billy will take to this and continue to date the transgender woman. The 2 characters would then have many storylines together. I'd also give Perry Fenwick some more meaty material, as he's a capable actor. Maybe a testicular cancer storyline or something?
Alfie would also have lots more to do. I'd definitely being back the cheeky chappy Alfie Moon, that everyone fell in love with, over a decade ago. Alfie would communicate with much more characters and I'd also keep Alfie away from Kat for the time being. Alfie would strike up a strong friendship with Mick Carter and they would both become a big kind of double act like Minty and Gary and hopefully bring a bit of banter to the show. Shane Richie is a wonderful actor, so I'd definitely give him some serious material! I'd give him and Kat a huge storyline, in which Tommy is diagnosed with a life threatening illness and the pair will be there for their son.
Also, for Cora I'd introduce some of her family. I'd introduce her sister at first, who is suffering with dementia. Cora's nephew has refuses to look after his mother and so Cora takes her sister in and decides to look after her sister herself. I'd also bring Rainie back got another guest stint, in which the character would be killed off after taking an overdose, giving Ann Mitchell some big stuff! Cora's nephew would also be introduced in the dementia storyline!:p.
Thoughts on these idea's?:).
Alfie: Agree. Hate this numpty, Kat could do better. Even back in the day I was hoping she'd marry Andy Hunter, become embroiled in The Firm and go down the Ganster's moll route. Kat is wasted on Alfie and he's been dragging her down for far too long. He has never suited her character. Kill him off.
Billy. Disagree. You need people who can just be in the background and he fills the role of runt of the Mitchell litter well. The actress who played Little Mo wants to return so I'd bring her and her son back and have Billy remarry her giving him more of his own family unit.
Max. Disagree. He's become a bit stale but the problem in sacking him is how short it would leave the cast in strong male characters. There's already an imbalance bbetween strong males and females so I'd be reluctant to get rid unless there was a strong replacement lined up. Instead I'd marry him and Kat off to give each of them a new direction. Between them they have a good spread of kids to fill a family home.
Cora: Agree. She was brought in to be a matriarch but doesn't have a family. If Stan was going to stick around she might have had a purpose but he's not so she's pointless.
I would keep Carol, Max & Cora and axe Billy &
Alfie.
Why would you axe Billy? He has been there a lot longer than Max and Cora and is a well known character, played by a decent actor... Don't you think he deserves a good storyline instead?:/.
Sounds good to me.
Not only do you want every character to stay you seem to suggest 5 or 6 each week who should return. How big exactly do you want the cast to be?
Because of the writing not the Actress.
It wasn't that long ago that Sharon, Dot and Roxy were 'third wheels'.
Some people are character hoarders.
We've had plenty of new characters brought in, and two or three still to come. There's still a place for the regular characters that are popular with the viewer, and Alfie, Billy, Carol and Max are popular.
Exactly. The actors and actresses mentioned are capable of doing well with big stories, but they are not getting them. They shouldn't be written out because DTC is not giving them anything. DTC needs to think of some decent material for Carol/Billy/Lola/Jay/Whitney/Stacey/Cora and Alfie, instead of just giving his favourites The Carter family story after story.
Carol Jackson - she doesn't work without a load of kids around her. Wasted character
Liam butcher - GIVE HIM A STORYLINE. What happened
To him in the cafe?
Alfie - just around for inevitable on/off Kat relationship. Boring.
Whitney - underused
With Cora they are trying but she suffered without one of her daughters around. Stan has atleast given her something. They should put her back with max and abi and have her sort Max out for Abis sake.
Lola has been in some stories but is more of a supporting role these days but atleast she has begun appearing more.
I like the Coras Relatives idea. However I wouldn't kill of rainie as I want her to do a Janine and make something of herself rather then a donna Ludlow.
I'd rather billy and the transgender woman give him an exit storyline lasting a year and Phil not approving so billy moves away.
Tiffany should be brought back and Robbie I don't really care about but carol needs to become a better character. She's so boring and the character has been suffocated by family that she doesn't work without them. Also the kids need to have a few more who are not babies and toddlers who can talk. Tiffany was also perfect in her stint.
Alfie needs to go. Shane is far to arrogant and big headed for his own good imo
From interviews I've seen.
Simple:
Axe deadwood like Lee, Les and Pam to bring them back/in!:p.
Why would I want them to go anyway? Of corse I want them to stay. They are all good characters!
Also, I have only suggested like 3 characters up there I would like to bring back?:/.
How are Pam and Les deadwood? These kind of characters are needed to give the show a more community feel . Just because they aren't involved in big storylines all the time doesn't make then deadwood. These kind of characters are vital to the show.