Is DS getting overrun with kids and trolls - or even trolling kids?
Or is it just people who cannot read plain English - even when repeated a dozen times in a row in different wording by different people?
I am a Joe supporter but I do think people need to stop with these threads as much as I would have liked Joe to be Xmas No 1 the RATM campaign was a success and was always only a one week campaign, so there is no place for gloating. I like Joe and am happy for him to have his No1 this week as are most of the RATM supporters I think as most have stated that it was never about Joe.:)
Nope. RATM were #2 this week so they were trying really hard, and failed miserably. Joe is laughing his arse off right now. ;)
How did RATM fail when they didn't even re-relase the song? It had nothing to do with RATM whatsoever, they didn't do anything except finding one of their album tracks chosen randomly as the focus of an anti-xfactor campaign.
However, i can see you have social problems, so i'll just leave it.
HAHAHAHAHA!! I know it's already been said, but I'm going to say it again,
this thread has been an epic fail.
Talk about being put in your place!
The OP is not going to listen to you - or anyone - anyway.
I honestly thought they would not show up again after the replies to the first post, but when I saw his/her second post, then it was obvious the OP is either on of my possibilities laid out in my first post here (post 26).
Where are the overnight RATM supporters now???!! I don't use these terms much but I think calling it an "Epic fail" is appropriate
so if every xfactor fan bought a copy of climb pre christmas
does that mean they went out and bought a 2nd copy just to make it no1 in the nobody cares week ?
Is DS getting overrun with kids and trolls - or even trolling kids?
Yes - this forum has. It's almost as bad as when Coleen Nolan was in Dancing on Ice and you couldn't post any opinion about Coleen without the thread being flooded with almost identically worded posts about how great Coleen was and insulting people who didn't agree.
I'm assuming anyone sensible who really *did* just want RATM to be number one at Christmas will have better things to do than carry on posting about it the week after Christmas. Because, as they say, it was all about getting a number one at Christmas and they've proved their point to their own satisfaction. And now the point is proved there can't possibly be any need to keep posting about it.
Equally, it's obvious that people who feel their point was proved by the RATM Christmas no 1 aren't interested in the post Christmas no 1. So it also seems a bit pointless posting threads that are apparently meant to convince them that Joe's no 1 negates RATM's Christmas no 1. Obviously, to those who supported RATM's campaign, Joe getting to no 1 now doesn't undo what they feel they achieved.
I just wish things would calm down to their usual level of amusing witty discussion.
People on either 'side' who can't cope with criticism of whoever they support are free to start 'appreciation' threads where no-one is allowed to rain on their parade. But please let the rest of us get on with business as usual.
I would think that in 92 everyone who bought it owned it as a tape (or very possibly CD) single or as part of a record/CD/minidisk/tape album.
On the 'hype' rekindling their love of the song, they'd probably rebuy it in mp3 format (better quality, easy to play on their computer & mp3 player). So the format change over the years would have helped RATM immensely as fans rebought music (as I'm sure lots did when we went from record/tape to CD).
As for RATM getting 'owned' (never did understand that phrase), the idea was for them to get Christmas No1. They did. It has, or had, nothing to do with beating Joe in particular, only the winner of the X Factor from claiming the top spot as theirs with a predictably slushy, insipid cover.
I'm sure most RATM campaigners would be happy that the lad got his no1 - and the last of the noughties, no less. That's not what the issue was and anyone who fails to 'get' that so very late in the day will frankly probably never really get it.
I'm assuming anyone sensible who really *did* just want RATM to be number one at Christmas will have better things to do than carry on posting about it the week after Christmas.
LOL @ you. Joe is the DECADES number 1, far better than Christmas #1 IMHO. And many others as well
And it's funny that the RATM zealots say "no one cares" yet you're replying to my post which tells me you care enough. You can't take that X-Factor is making new musicians and garbage like RATM is no match for X Factor. Isn't RATM like the worst band ever, who never even got a top 10 hit in their prime?
LOL @ you. Joe is the DECADES number 1, far better than Christmas #1 IMHO. And many others as well
And it's funny that the RATM zealots say "no one cares" yet you're replying to my post which tells me you care enough. You can't take that X-Factor is making new musicians and garbage like RATM is no match for X Factor. Isn't RATM like the worst band ever, who never even got a top 10 hit in their prime?
If you read the forums regularly you'd know that I've posted plenty of stuff about RATM to the extent that Tumblin Dice has labelled me an 'anti campaigner' - whatever that might be. Thanks for proving my point that I'm not on either side, I would just like it all to stop!
There is childish trolling on both sides, NOT by most people on either 'side' who have now moved on (since both the 'Christmas number one' and 'Joe getting to no 1' issues have both been resolved.)
You can't blame either pro RATM or pro Joe posters for the childishness - I've come to the conclusion it's just down to people who like a fight and are trying to fan the flames to extract a bit more aggro.
It's tedious for everyone else to have threads constantly hijacked and also against forum rules to deliberately wind others up.
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Joe lost, there's no educated way to say otherwise.
Fair enough
this thread has been an epic fail.
Talk about being put in your place!
How did RATM fail when they didn't even re-relase the song? It had nothing to do with RATM whatsoever, they didn't do anything except finding one of their album tracks chosen randomly as the focus of an anti-xfactor campaign.
However, i can see you have social problems, so i'll just leave it.
The OP is not going to listen to you - or anyone - anyway.
I honestly thought they would not show up again after the replies to the first post, but when I saw his/her second post, then it was obvious the OP is either on of my possibilities laid out in my first post here (post 26).
so if every xfactor fan bought a copy of climb pre christmas
does that mean they went out and bought a 2nd copy just to make it no1 in the nobody cares week ?
The aim was to get the christmas no1 and that was achieved, we could have had this week's no1 as well, if we wanted!
Yes - this forum has. It's almost as bad as when Coleen Nolan was in Dancing on Ice and you couldn't post any opinion about Coleen without the thread being flooded with almost identically worded posts about how great Coleen was and insulting people who didn't agree.
I'm assuming anyone sensible who really *did* just want RATM to be number one at Christmas will have better things to do than carry on posting about it the week after Christmas. Because, as they say, it was all about getting a number one at Christmas and they've proved their point to their own satisfaction. And now the point is proved there can't possibly be any need to keep posting about it.
Equally, it's obvious that people who feel their point was proved by the RATM Christmas no 1 aren't interested in the post Christmas no 1. So it also seems a bit pointless posting threads that are apparently meant to convince them that Joe's no 1 negates RATM's Christmas no 1. Obviously, to those who supported RATM's campaign, Joe getting to no 1 now doesn't undo what they feel they achieved.
I just wish things would calm down to their usual level of amusing witty discussion.
People on either 'side' who can't cope with criticism of whoever they support are free to start 'appreciation' threads where no-one is allowed to rain on their parade. But please let the rest of us get on with business as usual.
Exactly!
Didn't everyone in the world already buy the album in 1991?
Nobody did.
That was when they formed, the album/song came out in '92
Well, whenever.
On the 'hype' rekindling their love of the song, they'd probably rebuy it in mp3 format (better quality, easy to play on their computer & mp3 player). So the format change over the years would have helped RATM immensely as fans rebought music (as I'm sure lots did when we went from record/tape to CD).
As for RATM getting 'owned' (never did understand that phrase), the idea was for them to get Christmas No1. They did. It has, or had, nothing to do with beating Joe in particular, only the winner of the X Factor from claiming the top spot as theirs with a predictably slushy, insipid cover.
I'm sure most RATM campaigners would be happy that the lad got his no1 - and the last of the noughties, no less. That's not what the issue was and anyone who fails to 'get' that so very late in the day will frankly probably never really get it.
A ridiculous and juvenile post:mad:
LOL @ you. Joe is the DECADES number 1, far better than Christmas #1 IMHO. And many others as well
And it's funny that the RATM zealots say "no one cares" yet you're replying to my post which tells me you care enough. You can't take that X-Factor is making new musicians and garbage like RATM is no match for X Factor. Isn't RATM like the worst band ever, who never even got a top 10 hit in their prime?
According to Wiki Killing In The Name got to the top 30 in 1992. Oh dear.
If you read the forums regularly you'd know that I've posted plenty of stuff about RATM to the extent that Tumblin Dice has labelled me an 'anti campaigner' - whatever that might be.
There is childish trolling on both sides, NOT by most people on either 'side' who have now moved on (since both the 'Christmas number one' and 'Joe getting to no 1' issues have both been resolved.)
You can't blame either pro RATM or pro Joe posters for the childishness - I've come to the conclusion it's just down to people who like a fight and are trying to fan the flames to extract a bit more aggro.
It's tedious for everyone else to have threads constantly hijacked and also against forum rules to deliberately wind others up.