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QuickHitz format coming to the UK?

omnidirectionalomnidirectional Posts: 18,822
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According to Radio Today, this US format is on the way to the UK. They play 24 tracks per hour, by editing tracks down to around 2 minutes.

I've been listening to the demo stream on their website and the edits are all pretty good and don't spoil the tracks. Although as I type, Lady Gaga - Applause is playing and contained an abrupt edit.

Which UK stations could be adopting this format?

http://radiotoday.co.uk/2014/08/quickhitz-format-on-its-way-to-the-uk/

http://quickhitz.com/QuickHitzStream.html
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    radiodadradiodad Posts: 2,071
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    I think we can all guess this is going to be Fire. The format is new to the UK but the concept is not, many UK stations have breakfast edits so they can get away more hits at breakfast while still having more speech than daytime.
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    AmaraAmara Posts: 5,376
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    Didn't Radio Luxembourg pioneer this format on the "label" shows in the 60's.
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    LaurelandHardyLaurelandHardy Posts: 3,806
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    Amara wrote: »
    Didn't Radio Luxembourg pioneer this format on the "label" shows in the 60's.

    You beat me to it, I was going to reply the very same thing.
    Radio Luxembourg used to play about a minute of each song on these shows, therefore all of the new releases could get airplay.
    Personally I think one minute of a lot of today's songs is about as much as I can bear!
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    InkblotInkblot Posts: 26,889
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    What is point QuickHitz format? What is point cutting songs? What is point paying for stupid format when you could just play songs listener likes all the way through?
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    Gerry1Gerry1 Posts: 4,224
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    Inkblot wrote: »
    What is point QuickHitz format? What is point cutting songs? What is point paying for stupid format when you could just play songs listener likes all the way through?
    Probably because some teenage scribbler thought that 24 half songs would be better than 12 full songs.

    D'oh ! Yet more dumbing down. >:(

    Even more 'More Music Variety'...
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    hanssolohanssolo Posts: 22,668
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    From radiotoday
    The format promises twice as many songs per hour by cutting songs in half so listeners don’t get bored
    Does seem what Global do to some songs by editing the length, but more extreme
    radiodad wrote: »
    I think we can all guess this is going to be Fire. The format is new to the UK but the concept is not, many UK stations have breakfast edits so they can get away more hits at breakfast while still having more speech than daytime.
    As Oxis media are the UK reps, perhaps Jack 2 in Oxford might be first, but as Celador have a franchise already with Oxis/Sparknet, Fire is a possibility?
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    PassengersPassengers Posts: 764
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    What a load of crap.
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    ahoymeisterahoymeister Posts: 1,134
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    I remember Capital shortening tracks on their breakfast show when Tarrant was at the helm, often cutting off before the last verse. It was one of the reasons I stopped listening.
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    AmaraAmara Posts: 5,376
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    Passengers wrote: »
    What a load of crap.

    Yes its a dumb idea it was annoying listening to Luxembourg when they did it. I hoped when they changed it was dead and buried but obviously not. If its a track you particularly like its very annoying.
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    GORTONIANGORTONIAN Posts: 8,673
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    So let me get this right and forgive me as I'm probably older than most posters on here

    Is this Similar to when the K tel and Ronco records companies used to edit down the running times of tracks ???
    THEY said it was if I recall right to ensure the highest music quality running times as originally released have been changed ???
    WE knew it was to shoehorn as many tracks as they could onto an album that lasted for aprox 35 to 40 mins

    So if I do have it right it's a NEW Concept
    We had THIRTY PLUS YEARS AGO
    Love it 😄.....WELL ACTUALLY I DONT !!
    I can think of at least One GLOBAL station that would embrace it
    ANOTHER nail in the coffin of LOCAL radio then 😢😢😢
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    Gerry1Gerry1 Posts: 4,224
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    GORTONIAN wrote: »
    Is this Similar to when the K tel and Ronco records companies used to edit down the running times of tracks ???
    THEY said it was if I recall right to ensure the highest music quality running times as originally released have been changed ???
    You beat me to it !

    The weasel words carefully evaded the point that tracks were ruined by cutting out whole chunks. Before buying the album you had no way of knowing which tracks had been butchered in this way and how badly it had been done.

    'Night Moves' on the soundtrack of the 'FM' film was wrecked by completely chopping out the slow section about three quarters of the way through.

    If I were a recording artist I'd be mightily miffed if my magnum opus was misrepresented by having bits of it snipped off. I'd want to do the same to the radio station's MD !
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    GORTONIANGORTONIAN Posts: 8,673
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    Gerry1 wrote: »
    You beat me to it !

    The weasel words carefully evaded the point that tracks were ruined by cutting out whole chunks. Before buying the album you had no way of knowing which tracks had been butchered in this way and how badly it had been done.

    'Night Moves' on the soundtrack of the 'FM' film was wrecked by completely chopping out the slow section about three quarters of the way through.

    If I were a recording artist I'd be mightily miffed if my magnum opus was misrepresented by having bits of it snipped off. I'd want to do the same to the radio station's MD !

    Couldn't agree more
    I can recall one album where Love on a mountain top by Robert Knight was not only chopped down to about 1 min 50 but noticeably speeded up in the process
    There was also the question of sound levels which varied hugely between tracks

    HOW THE HELL THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT GOD ONLY KNOWS !!
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    FM_BanditFM_Bandit Posts: 2,650
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    And there it goes. The last nail in the coffin that is the medium of radio everyone... I bid you goodbye and goodnight!
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    AmaraAmara Posts: 5,376
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    I an not a fan of Jack FM but at least (afaik) they do play the whole track. Have listeners actually said they want 24 cut down songs an hour if not I suggest that when this format starts they switch off.
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    GORTONIANGORTONIAN Posts: 8,673
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    Amara wrote: »
    I an not a fan of Jack FM but at least (afaik) they do play the whole track. Have listeners actually said they want 24 cut down songs an hour if not I suggest that when this format starts they switch off.

    I don't think they have but that's never going to stop one company in particular ... Sadly if they want it you WILL get it😢

    And guess what ?????
    THEY WONT LOSE ONE SINGLE LISTENER😳😳😳😳
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    mfrmfr Posts: 5,623
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    Listening to AMP, the format works pretty well. For the most part it's club tracks which are designed to be mixed and cut and aren't exactly telling a compelling narrative.

    Well produced and well edited. I could understand the complaints if they were knocking Supper's Ready or Bohemian Rhapsody down to size, but they're not.
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    Mr PringleMr Pringle Posts: 6,469
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    I've listened to a lot of Amp in the last few days. To call them "club" tracks is a little removed from the playlists of Kiss, Capital or even Radio 1. What did strike me is the rotation - Calvin Harris's Summer is played at least once an hour, every hour, as are the other top tracks. This would make Heart's More Music Variety look honest!

    It's not a bad idea. "Why would you cut down tracks people like?" - well, obviously, because other people don't, and it brings everyone closer to a track they'll like.
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    GORTONIANGORTONIAN Posts: 8,673
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    mfr wrote: »
    Listening to AMP, the format works pretty well. For the most part it's club tracks which are designed to be mixed and cut and aren't exactly telling a compelling narrative.

    Well produced and well edited. I could understand the complaints if they were knocking Supper's Ready or Bohemian Rhapsody down to size, but they're not.


    BUT HOW LONG UNTIL THEY DO ???
    If I were a composer I'd be mightily hacked off if someone took it on themselves to rip my music to bits
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    mfrmfr Posts: 5,623
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    GORTONIAN wrote: »
    BUT HOW LONG UNTIL THEY DO ???
    If I were a composer I'd be mightily hacked off if someone took it on themselves to rip my music to bits

    I'm sure many composers are annoyed when a presenter talks over the start or end of a song too or if Classic FM plays an excerpt . However, it's radio, not someone playing out their CD collection. The punchy sound of the station overall is more important than the views of a composer.

    The good news is, the songwriters get paid more as the tracks are played more often!

    I don't buy the "slippery slope" fallacy that because one station is editing down to two minutes they all will. If that were to happen expect a flurry of "we play the whole thing" stations.
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    dpbdpb Posts: 12,031
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    GORTONIAN wrote: »
    I don't think they have but that's never going to stop one company in particular ... Sadly if they want it you WILL get it😢

    And guess what ?????
    THEY WONT LOSE ONE SINGLE LISTENER😳😳😳😳

    To be honest I can't see either Global or Bauer buying in a format so can't see them taking on QuickHitz.

    I could see this being adopted on non-group or smaller group stations - Fire and Jack2 spring to mind. If music formats are abolished I wouldn't be surprised to see some other smaller stations take it on.
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    GORTONIANGORTONIAN Posts: 8,673
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    All this talk of QuickHitz and Bauer takes me back many moons ago when the REVERSE was actually happening (slightly off topic so apologies )
    I wonder how many others on DS in the Manchester area can remember like me when split frequency broadcasting first began
    Piccadilly continued on medium wave on 261
    But Fm brought us Key 103
    Not the Manchesters hit music station it is now but a totally different animal
    Much more laid back presenting and I remember a proliferation of album tracks
    Most hours would start with a thirty minute segment of tracks and no presenter talking over tracks either
    It also seemed much more specialist and more commercial free
    Can't remember when it went to its latest incarnation but though I travelled all over the country at the time I can't recall hearing any other station presenting in that style either then or since
    Wonder how something like that would be received now ??
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 313
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    This just seems like a more extreme take on what any hit music station has done; it's pretty common to butcher tracks or pitchshift them to make them shorter or more punchy - an entire playlist of edits? Hrm. It'll work though in a 15-29 demo.

    Craig
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    InkblotInkblot Posts: 26,889
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    NPR's take on this story: http://www.npr.org/2014/08/07/338606558/your-favorite-songs-abridged (click on the play button, it opens a pop-up player).

    The reporter raises points made in this thread and the guy from Newcap does a decent job of answering them. However the journalist - like most of us - isn't convinced this is a good thing.
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    Anthony_UKAnthony_UK Posts: 536
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    I've heard some music tracks on German RTL Radio via 1440kHz cut down in this way so it definitely is either here or rapidly coming which is rather worrying-if stations want to lose listeners in this way buy cutting music tracks short then they are going the right way about it!!!
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    hanssolohanssolo Posts: 22,668
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    RTL is gold format and tracks should not be cut, Quickhits is for top 40 and new songs
    Mr Pringle wrote: »
    It's not a bad idea. "Why would you cut down tracks people like?" - well, obviously, because other people don't, and it brings everyone closer to a track they'll like.
    For promotion of new songs, this might work well, perhaps on say Freeview's Kiss Fresh station?
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