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Anyone Else Not Think It's Bullying?
Master Ozzy
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I'm shocked at the amount of people who think the treatment of Jale is bullying and want Pauline and Helen removed. I seriously wonder if some people here have ever stepped outside their front door, because there's a hell of a lot of different types of people out there in the real world. Pauline for example isn't a nice person at all...she's horrible, intimidating and deluded...but the situation is not bullying. They dislike Jale and are slagging her off, being bitchy etc, blankign her now and again. It's certainly not nice, but certainly not bullying. I also can't help but wonder if this is the first series of BB that some people have watched...groups and divided form every siglge year...it's what happens when you put a group of people in a confiend space together...not everyone is going to get on. People even screamed "bullying" last year, when really it was extreme bitching and nasty things were said during arguments. In the 15 years of BB, the only times in my opinion that there was actually bullying was obviously the Jade and Shilpa Shetty situation, and the Lesley and Sam situation during BB6. In my opinion, if you seriously think that what's happening this year is bullying, then you must have thought there was bullying every other year (as we've seen far worse bitching and nastiness), in which case I can't understand why you would want to cotninue watching. Fair enough if you don't like people like Helen, Pauline and Toya (I certainly don't) and I know it's not a nice situation, but tis' certainly not bullying.
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Its definitely bullying in my world.
In my opinion excluding a person, making them feel left out or uncomfortable and calling them names is a form of bullying. When that person says it is easier to just keep away from a group because of how they are treated when they join it surely that is the most basic form of bullying as that group are intentionally trying to make that person feel that way.
They don't like her which is not the same of bullying and she isn't likable anyway.
This forum always try's to turn the show back to the bb1-bb4 era where everything was quite nice
I'm struggling to understand why people are adamantly maintaining it isn't. What constitutes bullying exactly?
Sorry I've posted this on another thread but I think it's useful.
Verbal Adult Bully: Words can be quite damaging. Adult bullies who use this type of tactic may start rumors about the victim, or use sarcastic or demeaning language to dominate or humiliate another person. This subtle type of bullying also has the advantage - to the bully - of being difficult to document. However, the emotional and psychological impacts of verbal bullying can be felt quite keenly and can result in reduced job performance and even depression.
Secondary Adult Bully: This is someone who does not initiate the bullying, but joins in so that he or she does not actually become a victim down the road. Secondary bullies may feel bad about what they are doing, but are more concerned about protecting themselves.
What I'm getting from your post is - You don't like Jale; therefore, she is not being bullied.
That, basically, describes the whole show!
Helen, especially is picking on Jale and isolating her and to me that is bullying.
I do however think it is emotional bullying and in all honesty they should be ashamed of their behaviour.
I'm shocked that you DON'T think it's bullying. I generally don't agree with most of the "bullying" allegations on this forum but I have to say that the behaviour towards and treatment of Jale by the majority of the other housemates to me can be described as nothing less than bullying.
I actually don't think one single person has put her on a pedestal. I don't think anyone has even seen a hint of the real Jale in order to make a decision. She has been stifled from day one.
The fact that you say she's unlikeable explains your responses perfectly. Why exactly do you think she's unlikeable? I think given half a chance she could be a very amusing/entertaining housemate - from the little I've seen she does have a very dry sense of humour.
Not necessarily winner material - I've not got her on a pedestal but ....it's early days.
I've seen plenty of behaviour and people that I don't like. I'm gobsmacked that some of them are more than happy to showcase the really nasty and unpleasant side of their personalities - it's like their proud of it. Very strange
They do not only dislike her but they also try to make their friends not talk to her, trying very hard for her to not have anyone.
You see she even has to tell some people they do not have to sit with her, knowing that if they are too nice to jale they might be also the target of the 2 witches.
It is obvious also to me that most of them are scared of Pauline. They will not admit to it but they do not want to be her next target.
She will (and does) overpower you just by repeating something constantly and not letting others finish.
Helen (do other people there know she is a hooker?) I did not,
They love feeling like they are not alone, being in a group and that is called bullying. a
SPOT ON!
Happy now?
Pauline is intimidating everybody in the house. If Jale wasn't there, she'd pick somebody else.
+1. Good post
These are all adults. Adults that are free to leave BB at any time and monitored 24/7. They have access to a security team and psychologists as well as the Diary Room as a time out safe zone.
They are not emotional and physically undeveloped children trapped in a school they cannot leave and surrounded by hundreds of potential aggressors with minimal supervision and whose safe zone might be a lockable toilet cubicle if they're lucky.
It's Big Brother, not Butlins. Suck it up Buttercups, you're not earning £100,000 for sunbathing.