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Ghost hunting with Katie... Charlie Brooker's review
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/aug/21/charlie-brooker-screen-burn
"Katie Price herself comes across surprisingly well, incidentally, because she spends much of her time tutting, moaning, saying things like "this is bullshit", and giggling whenever Alex Reid tries to communicate with the netherworld. In fact, her lack of respect for the entire spook-chasing conceit causes nigh-on constant bickering among the group, lending events the air of a dysfunctional family on a claustrophobic camping holiday."
The Guardian seem to be heavily into Katie Price at the moment.
"Katie Price herself comes across surprisingly well, incidentally, because she spends much of her time tutting, moaning, saying things like "this is bullshit", and giggling whenever Alex Reid tries to communicate with the netherworld. In fact, her lack of respect for the entire spook-chasing conceit causes nigh-on constant bickering among the group, lending events the air of a dysfunctional family on a claustrophobic camping holiday."
The Guardian seem to be heavily into Katie Price at the moment.
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Won't someone PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
Where on earth did that that stuff about the KP fan club and a boycott come from? Not from my post.
is exactly fawning all over her - funny, but not particularly nice. True, but not flattering.
Katie Price is still thick as pig sh*t, still nasty, still talentless, still about as interesting as watching paint dry. So no change there!
Because Jordan isn't.....:rolleyes:
lol:D
The OP edited that review to death.
Thanks for giving us the rest of the review.
That's not true actually, she has been on the cover about four months ago plus and if you have a quick search of the Guardian then you can see they've covered her fairly steadilty for at least four years and I remember her doing a 'high fashion' shoot for them at least four years ago.
And because you edited the review to make it look like it was being more complimentary to her than it was then accused the Guardian of being heavily into her because they had a couple of articles in that weren't actively laying into her.
If you don't read the Guardian they are a paper who tend to see themselves as somewhat feminist and wouldn't demonise a woman and start howling with rage and demanding she was stripped of custody/put down because she got drunk once after she split with her ex, put a bit of make up on her daughter, wore some revealing clothing and remarried quite quickly.
If you don't read the Guardian how come you found the review? Frantically googling for any KP stories that suggest anything milder than chasing her to a nunnery with a pitchfork so you can be outraged?
Unfortunately, someone on the editorial board seems to think that because she goes around telling people she's a "strong woman" that she must be.
In reality, she's a fabrication of the tabloid culture, and stands for the very things the Guardian normally criticise. They have either been sucked in by the spin that the only reason to dislike her is that she wears short skirts or has had many lovers. If they think she's a victim of the tabloid press being sexist, then they need to seriously consider how it was she made her name in the first place. She's only famous because of the mysogenistic tabloid press and the trashy women's magazines who have championed her as honest (nasty) and determined (refusing to notice she's got no talent),
I sometimes buy the Guardian, and I know what they claim to stand for. However, I also know that it's run by journalists and journalists can be incredibly hypocritical. They know that featuring her will create a bit of controversy, and hope to get people posting links on internet sites (such as this one) and some extra sales from people who normally buy the Express.
Brilliant bloody post. well said.
Right. This would be the women's press that hate her now.
Where you stand on some of the things she'd done such as playboy would definitely depend on what type of feminist you are as some are for and some are against pornography. Germaine Greer has some very interesting photos doing the rounds and Camille Paglia is very fond of porn. Plus women's rights to conduct their own lives as they choose or 'selfishly' is very much a feminist ideal.
I would say pretty much damn all feminists would be in favour of divorce, freedom to dress how you want without judgement and have relationships and sleep with whom you want without censure. And things like, oooh, the right to see male friends without your husband throwing a wobbly.
Plus the Guardian is very fond of selfish lifestyles, have you not seen the prices of the things they sell in their articles?
And I would imagine they're reporting on her because she's a widely discussed person in popular culture, not because she's a 'strong woman' it's not sodding Bella.
If they are sympathetic towards her, which they're not always I imagine it might well be in the interests of balance seeing as she gets and almighty kicking from all the tabloid press and womens mags these days. And is that not sexist? Would a man get as much punishment and censure as she does? Even Ashley Cole doesn't get it as badly as her and he repeatedly cheated on his wife. Neither does John Terry, PA or plenty of other blokes.
Plus they might well think she's a victim of the mysoginistic tabloid press because they create page 3 driven stars and then destroy them in an orgy of moral judgement even though they created them in the first place.
Can't say I've ever seen any paper - not even the Daily Misogynist - say she should have her kids taken off her.
The Guardian is a liberal (with a small 'l') paper - sometimes of the woolly-minded liberal variety.
Well said. I like her, but how did they sustain a two hour programme on ghost hunting.
The rest of the paragraph doesn't seem to fit with the first line.
How many of that group of super-rich, male celebrities, heavily featured in the press, also have a reputation for threatening behaviour. Obviously, none of them could be caught out drinking heavily during pregnancy, but perhaps there is some male equivalent that will do instead.
If you can think of anyone who fits the bill, and who receives universal acclaim amongst the public and press alike, then, and only then will you have a point.
The fact is, the mysogenistic press were the ones who made her famous in the first place. It is also a mistake to label the trashy magazines as "women's magazines" that trash her. They are magazines that a minority of women read, that are the life blood of her career. They are the ones who made her rich in the first place, and keep her in work.
If she wasn't quite so nasty with it, people wouldn't care. She isn't being "destroyed" because she took her top off. People just don't want to buy her tat any more and people just don't think she's worthy of being "celebrated". She's "destroying" her career quite successfully on her own. For example, aligning yourself with a breast cancer charity in a shameless attempt to help sell bras is one thing, however, moaning about your self-inflicted breast scars whilst doing so, is a silly move. She was dropped from that campaign with good reason, and it was all her own fault.
When she was younger she could get away with all sorts because she could flutter her eyelashes and get herself papped in a revealing outfit in order to distract the press whenever required. See also Dannielle Lloyd - it's amazing what the press forgives if you are willing to pose in a bikini. However, poor old Katie can no longer rely on that tactic. She has to stick to "they hate me because I'm a strong woman" or "they judge me because I was a glamour model" and all the other rubbish.
Clearly some people are falling for it, but it is not sexist to see through her whining.
Excellent rebuttal, could not have put that better.
Jem - that's honestly one of the best posts I've ever read about the whole KP circus.
For me, the bolded bit is why I went from being a bit *whatever* about her to really disliking her and TBH it was the reaction of her fans which compounded it for me.
KP seems to be totally unaware that the remarks about her self inflicted scars were, at best insensitive, and at worst downright cruel to anybody dealing with scars follwing a mastectomy or a lumpectomy. Her fans seemed to think that it was just another example of Katie "keeping it real".
This is a link to what breast cancer sufferers thought about KP at the time -
http://www.breastcancercare.org.uk/forum/katie-price-tickled-pink-campaign-t23456.html-sid=f59f9c20d5b9412aad9f79d5e11a8f20
This is my favourite quote
...couldn't have put it better!
Exactly.
That's always been my answer to those who claim that she and Pete are as bad as each other.
The ways in which they are "as bad as each other", don't bother me at all as much as her vile attitude towards people.
Yes, I'm going to watch it later now, wouldn't have even known it was on before.
She got her tits out for a living, she shagged her way round britian (and lied about it) was photographed falling out of clubs drunk when heavily pregnant, she cant open her gob without being hypocritical or lying, shes a disgarce as a woman - and a parent.. selling her kids every week on her show and for a new kitchen.... i cant stand her up herself, rude arrogant, ignorant behaviour, the way she demeans all those around her and her loved ones reeks of insecurity but nooo we have to put up with her "yay im the Pwicy no one can do better than me im great i am you can all fk off" statesments every week, blaming the media and CAN for her downfall from grace... and the sooner the rest of the uk wakes up to her (and it seems they are) the better for all concerned.
My daughter has just turned 18 and gets her A level results next Tues, im incredibly proud of her, I wonder if Amy, Kates mum can say the same? money doesent buy you a decent personality, respect or class ....and she has none of the above.
Rant over, im off to watch eat and watch XFACTOR... I know this place is for debate but please dont come at me with your tired old bollox "shes a stong woman they always get hated on", no she bloody isnt shes a spoilt brat.
10 out of 10:)
So basically you don't like her because she got her tits out and you've made a moral judgement because of reports in heat and tabloid newspapers.
Nothing wrong with that, I do the same about Peter Andre but in KPs case I think it's a bit weird as the people who are so rabidly against her seem to want to see her dead/in prison/destroyed whatever.
Nobody ever said it was sexist to dislike her, dislike away, but you were trying to make some kind of argument that she was incompatible with feminism which is actually not true about many schools of feminist thought and feminist thinkers and several of them have actually debated with each other about whether she is or not. Germaine Greer thought she was too thin to be a feminist icon but whatever. Also a lot of the reason people come up with on here are sexist, for a start if she's pictured without her children she's a bad mother but if she's with them she's being horrible because PA doesn't have them.
Anyway, the only reason I came back to reply was something you said earlier about her 'selfish lifestyle' being incompatible with feminism. Judging from much of the ranting on here her selfish lifestyle seems to be working and sometimes not being with her children and occassionally (shock horror) drinking. Oh, and getting a new boyfriend who wasn't the man who left her when she should have been sitting in sack cloth and ashes pledging herself to lifelong chasitity if she couldn't have Peter Andre.
Er, I just wanted to ask, do you actually have any idea what feminism is and it's central principles are? Working, not being tied full-time to your children, the right of mother's to work, the rights of single mother's the rights of women to control their own sexual identity and who they sleep with without moral judgement are pretty central to feminism.
You might want to look it up on Wiki, all kinds of fascinating stuff on there.