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Do men suffer harsher double standards regarding sex than women
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As a man, I used to work at big musical events/ sporting events. If you found a lost child you had to stand still, get a member of the public to escort the child to reception with you. Under no circumstances were you to be alone with the child. Is it fair that society assumes I am a danger to a child because of my gender?
Just last night I was out watching the football and the pub turns into a sort of club afterwards. The gents toilets were full of women who didn't want to queue in the ladies. All fun and games and fine to do apparently. A mate of mine was ejected from a club from going into the women's toilets before. A serious no-no.
In my opinion, being assumed to be some sort of sexual threat because of your gender is a lot worse than the '**** v stud' issue women have to suffer with. Although that's a difficult pill to swallow, it doesn't stop women doing what they want. I'd rather called a slag than a paedophile or potential rapist.
Just last night I was out watching the football and the pub turns into a sort of club afterwards. The gents toilets were full of women who didn't want to queue in the ladies. All fun and games and fine to do apparently. A mate of mine was ejected from a club from going into the women's toilets before. A serious no-no.
In my opinion, being assumed to be some sort of sexual threat because of your gender is a lot worse than the '**** v stud' issue women have to suffer with. Although that's a difficult pill to swallow, it doesn't stop women doing what they want. I'd rather called a slag than a paedophile or potential rapist.
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It is not the same thing. Whilst it is not fair for all men to be labelled for the sins of a few - it is men that commit the bulk of sex crimes. It is much rarer for women.
Women get called 'slags' etc for not conforming to a certain rule and double standard made up by men to give themselves more sexual rights and preferential treatment when it comes to sleeping around. Men use such words as amunition to control and get their own way.
Yes the male gender do suffer harsher double standards. In the 90's I used to work behind the bar in one of the main onsite venues at Butlins, and I remember that it was during euro 96 that there was a lot of trouble & not just because of the football either. One particular weekend during the Euro 96 season, there were a couple of stag & hen parties going on, and whilst the Men were rowdy, the women were a nightmare.
One of the women were probably on the blob, because of the way she was acting, loud / foul mouthed / threatening behaviour.by throwing glasses at the staff, so we had to end up calling security. I spoke to the security person in charge at the time and explained that a party had gotten out of hand & as soon as I said that it was a hen party, the head of security said that he would get as many staff rounded up & have the police on standby. 6 of the women in the party were told that their holiday had come to an end due to the way they had behaved & 4 got arrested for being violent towards staff.
Funny thing is that when I first reported it to security, they were expecting the trouble to come from the Scottish football fans, which we did have a small bit of trouble, but nowhere near as much as those bints in the hen party. :eek:
Also getting back to topic, an older woman that goes after a younger man for sex is classed as a cougar. Yet if a man sleeps with a woman who is a lot younger than him, he gets branded all sorts for it.
That last paragraph is completely biased and the wrong way round. For centuries older men have been getting away with sleeping with much younger women and getting called 'studs' etc - whilst women doing the same were branded as 'slags' etc. Complete and blatant double standards.
Nowadays - things have evened out a little, but still weighted hughly in favour of blokes, and men have the nerve to complain that women are now getting more 'sexual' rights than men. Sexual equality simply doesn't sit well with some! :rolleyes:
Not sure that really supports the OP's argument.
I agree with you but that is not always the case I posted this in another thread a few days ago
Wouldn't you agree they are both paedophiles and should be treated the same I disagreed with what she did just as much as what he did IMO both should be doing life in prison
I'm not sure tbh. I don't think teachers of either sex should be allowed to have sexual relationships with any pupil, nevermind an underage one - and should both face the consequences.
The only possible difference I can see - is that when it comes to sex - men do tend to be more predatory than women - and women are more likely to invest 'emotional' feelings into such a relationship.
Still wrong of course - but I tend to think that with men, such a relationship is much more likely to be driven by sex
Well the vast bulk of sex crimes on children are also committed by relatives.... yet they're the very people you're trying to return the child to!
Madness I tell you!
For example - if a man uses a sex toy on himself (e.g. a sex doll or a masturbation aid), he is generally looked at in an unfavourable light. Women on the other hand have parties to discuss and buy vibrators and its generally seen as a positive or fun thing.
I couldn't be any less predatory if I tried not even in the gay world and children do nothing for me so nothing will ever be happening in that area, ever!
I was driving home at about 12:45am many years ago and there was a small child of about 6 just wandering down the street totally alone. My first instinct was WTF! and I actually automatically slowed down the car with the intention of taking the kid to their parents and telling them exactly what I thought of them. - But before the car stopped, sense kicked in. What was that going to look like? I would be opening myself to ridiculous charges. I just drove on and hoped that the poor lad would be OK. It is disgusting that society has put me in that position and they are to blame for that.
You think she might have been 'on the blob' as you put it, because she was behaving like that?! :eek:
I agree, and tbh men should be able to take a child to a place of safety at a time like that without feeling like they might be being looked upon in a suspicious manner.
You would never ever get a high street shop centered around male sex toys such as Ann Summers is.
50 Shades of Grey was a cultural phenomenon. A mucky book for men would be considered shady and filthy. Not having a go just pointing it out. It's an interesting observation imo.
I agree it's ridiculous. Interesting to hear it's even slightly heightened for a gay man.
Absolutley agree. I'm all for women's rights and I have been shouted down for speaking up for men's rights before but I wish society didn't all paint us with such a dark brush.
Tip of the iceberg for me was when I heard two girls having the '**** v stud' debate. The fact is, I'd much rather be called a **** than being deemed a paedophile or sexual danger. Women will sleep with whoever they want no matter what they are called and rightly so. A man can have his life ruined by a claim like this. I think the sexual double standards are very unfair on men. Ann Summers/ 50 Shades example above included. Women have it easier I think in that respect.
A male version of Sex and the City where lads met up and talked in detail about the women they sleep with and in some cases ridiculing them would not be allowed to air.
Don't kid yourself that women are immune to false accusations. Christine Hamilton was falsely accused along with her husband, for example. Back in the 90s when children were being removed from their homes during the satanic ritual abuse scare, there were as many women falsely accused as men. Same with the day care scandals like the McMartin pre school trial in the US.
I agree the risk of a false accusation is higher for men, but its not non-existent for women either.
Not only can you buy a wide range of such items online or in highstreet stores, such as the aforementioned Ann Summers, but adverts for such are appearing in mainstream publications (such as lad mags, newspapers and so on).
There certainly aren't as many variations available as there are for vibrators, but then not only have vibrators had a longer lead in time but I would guess it's harder to come up with a new variation of a c**t-in-a-can. After all a man is less likely to consider a new colour or the addition of zebra stripes as a worthwhile improvement and a must have.
So the stigma attached to male toys is certainly reducing over time (and quite quickly in fact), in the same way that Vibrators went from unmentionable to openly discussed.
(Although the whole sex doll thing has a way to go yet, that's still seen as wierd. Although to be fair a woman owning a full body male sex doll would also be considered wierd)
*Actually now I think about it, not something I want to do again, surely there's a market for Fleshlights in Footbal Team colours? That seems to work with other items. I suppose the question is would you rather f*ck your own team or your opponents?
I'd rather not live in a world where sex dolls are seen as the norm :eek: I have seen documentaries :eek:
Female models in lingerie have been used in advertising for so long that no one cares anymore, but David Beckham appearing on a billboard in bulging boxers gets loads of column inches (fnarr fnarr).
Female stars appearing topless or even full frontal in a mainstream Hollywood movie passes by everyday and no one cares less, except Mr Skin, but if a well known male actor gets his knob out it's big news (unless it's Ewan McGregor who has done it so often we are now blase about that as well).
Naked breasts have formed part of the morning routine for over 40 years thanks to Page 3. And "top shelf" or "under the counter" publications like Mayfair, Playboy, Escort, Club, Men Only, Fiesta, Razzle and so on have now not only wandered into the likes of WH Smiths but have climbed down a shelf or two in the guise of Nuts and Zoo. It's never been difficult for men to buy a "mucky book" if they wanted to.
It's the fact that it's now moving into, and has suddenly created, a women's market for erotica that makes 50 Shades so extraordinary.
Unlike Fleshlights and their kin.
It's disgusting that women have to "think" about what they wear to avoid rape.
Thought provoking and intelligent post. Nothing much to add as you make a good point.
Horrific name. Sounds like a type of hemorrhoid.:(
But then there is the Plastic Pam, Only Fools and Horses type and are just abused for the sex act and then those very worrying companion types that they dress up and sat in chairs and give a name and talked to.