Of all the garbage you post, this might be the most egregious. It doesn't even make sense. Surely ITV, 4 and Five would be delighted were the BBC not to exist, they would get millions of potential extra viewers instantly. Why would any of them then start charging for access to their channels and stop being available to half the country?
Two points...why would they not start charging if they thought it was financially beneficial? They won't all the time the licence fee remains. Furthermore, why would (for example) ITV contribute to a platform which supported it's rivals?
People who want to watch ITV, 4 and 5 are watching them now. People who aren't watching them now won't start to watch them (if there was no Beeb).
the problem with bbc made content is it is mostly P.C drivel bbc used to make excellent comedy bottom red dwarf black adder we don't see anything like that anymore just leftwing nonsense
PC is a good thing and no, again, the BBC is balanced.
No other public service has its revenue collected so uniquely or enforced so vigorously than the tvl, that's the distinction that is made and why so many now are against it.
BBC DG Tony Hall has today outl;ined plans for a leaner BBC with the loss of up to 1000 jobs
The licence fee income in 2016/17 is now forecast to be £150m less than it was expected to be in 2011. This is because as more people use iPlayer, mobiles and online catch-up, the number of households owning televisions is falling. It also provides further evidence of the need for the licence fee to be modernised to cover digital services.
The new measures being proposed will help bridge that gap by delivering £50m in savings from merging divisions, cutting down management layers, reducing managers and improving processes. More than 1,000 posts will be lost as a result.
The proposed steps that will be taken to make the BBC simpler and leaner are:
To reduce the number of divisions. First by joining up technology teams across Digital, Engineering and Worldwide. Further changes are also possible.
To reduce the number of layers from the top to the bottom of the organisation. In some places there are currently 10 layers of people and management and this will be cut to a maximum of seven in the future.
To reduce management roles in all areas of the BBC. A simpler organisation will inevitably require fewer managers, especially at senior levels.
To simplify and standardise procedures across the BBC, particularly looking at how professional and support areas such as marketing and communications, finance, HR, IT support and legal are structured and can be simplified.
Throughout the summer, the BBC will be identifying where the specific savings opportunities are with final decisions expected to be taken in early autumn.
Why don't they make it so you can only use I player if you enter your TV license number. That way it will stop people getting BBC content free that other people are paying for.
Why don't they make it so you can only use I player if you enter your TV license number. That way it will stop people getting BBC content free that other people are paying for.
That is a possibility. The only thing is, do we want to have to 'sign in' each time we wanted to access the iPlayer? Numbers can also be shared can't they unless they make it so that you have to register devices to a particular number.
Why don't they make it so you can only use I player if you enter your TV license number. That way it will stop people getting BBC content free that other people are paying for.
that is too simple for the bbc they would. rather use scare tactics to rob us all of £145 a year
That is a possibility. The only thing is, do we want to have to 'sign in' each time we wanted to access the iPlayer? Numbers can also be shared can't they unless they make it so that you have to register devices to a particular number.
I would make Sky, Virgin etc. pay the BBC for rebroadcasting BBC shows.
If you read the small print on the TV licence (can't imagine many people bother) it doesn't mention the BBC and is for broadcast receiving equipment and overlooks the cost of making programmes. I suspect the text was originally written back in the 1930s when no-one imagined being able to watch programmes of your choice in your own home.
i dont have much hope for management thinning. Bloated management that produces nothing is very much a central feature of neocon dogma and privatisation........ but why dont the tories apply same principle to trust hospitals ?
once the bbc is gone, who will the tories blame for their policies failing?
The threads on DS that are hijacked by anti-Tory statements are hilarious! Get over it! Five years is a long time to be angry.
The BBC will NOT be privatised. FACT.
The BBC will NOT be subscription only. FACT.
The BBC will NOT be gone forever by 2020. FACT.
The BBC will continue, by and large, as it has done for 9 decades. FACT.
The BBC survived 18 years of Tory Governments between 1979 and 1997. FACT.
The BBC may be more steamlined. FACT.
The BBC may need to reduce its overall TV output. FACT.
The BBC may need to revevaluate what it considers as Public Value. FACT.
The BBC may have to be governed by an independent body. FACT.
The BBC will, however, still be the BBC. FACT.
Ben Bradshaw inflicting a lot of harm on the BBC back in 2006. He ordered the closure of TV Centre and the move to Manchester. He restricted the LF rise to the rate of inflation - which was far less than the BBC needed. All the Coalition did (not just Tories) was Freeze the LF at the rate of inflation back in 2010, and since then, we've had inflation of just 0.05% AND deflation, so even if the LF rose, it would be so minimal it would have made little difference.
If you read the small print on the TV licence (can't imagine many people bother) it doesn't mention the BBC and is for broadcast receiving equipment and overlooks the cost of making programmes. I suspect the text was originally written back in the 1930s when no-one imagined being able to watch programmes of your choice in your own home.
because it is for that, and not something you would rather it be.
The threads on DS that are hijacked by anti-Tory statements are hilarious! Get over it! Five years is a long time to be angry.
The BBC will NOT be privatised. FACT.
The BBC will NOT be subscription only. FACT.
The BBC will NOT be gone forever by 2020. FACT.
The BBC will continue, by and large, as it has done for 9 decades. FACT.
The BBC survived 18 years of Tory Governments between 1979 and 1997. FACT.
The BBC may be more steamlined. FACT.
The BBC may need to reduce its overall TV output. FACT.
The BBC may need to revevaluate what it considers as Public Value. FACT.
The BBC may have to be governed by an independent body. FACT.
The BBC will, however, still be the BBC. FACT.
Ben Bradshaw inflicting a lot of harm on the BBC back in 2006. He ordered the closure of TV Centre and the move to Manchester. He restricted the LF rise to the rate of inflation - which was far less than the BBC needed. All the Coalition did (not just Tories) was Freeze the LF at the rate of inflation back in 2010, and since then, we've had inflation of just 0.05% AND deflation, so even if the LF rose, it would be so minimal it would have made little difference.
ignorant drivel. The bbc has had a 25% funding cut.
ignorant drivel. The bbc has had a 25% funding cut.
It had a FREEZE. A cut is the Tories saying "we will cut your LF by 25%". They didn't. The BBC are getting the same amount of money now as they did in 2010. They just have to use it to fund different things.
The threads on DS that are hijacked by anti-Tory statements are hilarious! Get over it! Five years is a long time to be angry.
The BBC will NOT be privatised. FACT.
The BBC will NOT be subscription only. FACT.
The BBC will NOT be gone forever by 2020. FACT.
The BBC will continue, by and large, as it has done for 9 decades. FACT.
The BBC survived 18 years of Tory Governments between 1979 and 1997. FACT.
The BBC may be more steamlined. FACT.
The BBC may need to reduce its overall TV output. FACT.
The BBC may need to revevaluate what it considers as Public Value. FACT.
The BBC may have to be governed by an independent body. FACT.
The BBC will, however, still be the BBC. FACT.
Ben Bradshaw inflicting a lot of harm on the BBC back in 2006. He ordered the closure of TV Centre and the move to Manchester. He restricted the LF rise to the rate of inflation - which was far less than the BBC needed. All the Coalition did (not just Tories) was Freeze the LF at the rate of inflation back in 2010, and since then, we've had inflation of just 0.05% AND deflation, so even if the LF rose, it would be so minimal it would have made little difference.
do YOU think sky atlantic is more valuble than bbc4 ?
It had a FREEZE. A cut is the Tories saying "we will cut your LF by 25%. They didn't. The BBC are getting the same amount of money now as they did in 2010. They just have to use it to fund different things.
do YOU think sky atlantic is more valuble than bbc4 ?
How could anyone answer that? If BBC4 was a subscription channel like Sky Atlantic and MORE people chose Sky Atlantic then yes, it would be more valuable. I'm not bothered about American programmes but millions are. But, for people who rave about BBC4 but slate Sky Atrlantic for being mainly American, why is American programming not acceptable for the BBC but European programming with subtitles is? Both are foreign.
Have costs been frozen since 2010? Nope. They've risen since the Tory freeze was forced upon them. What the Tories also forced onto the BBC was the funding of S4C, BBC Monitoring and of course the World Service. Broadband roll-out has also seen more money (wrongly) diverted away from the BBC.
How could anyone answer that? If BBC4 was a subscription channel like Sky Atlantic and MORE people chose Sky Atlantic then yes, it would be more valuable. I'm not bothered about American programmes but millions are. But, for people who rave about BBC4 but slate Sky Atrlantic for being mainly American, why is American programming not acceptable for the BBC but European programming with subtitles is? Both are foreign.
why, then, the most valuble media content is hardcore porn. With cat videos in very poor 2nd place.
rubbish sky should pay nothing to the bbc the bbc should pay sky for for a place on its platform like any other broadcaster
I agree. The BBC choose to be available on Sky. They are available on Satellite through Freesat and through an aerial with Freeview. Sky is seen as an ADDITIONAL service and as such doesn't need the BBC. If the BBC shouldn't pay, neither should ITV or C4 or C5.
Infact, if everyone is so convinced the BBC is so popular and are confident that the "masses" would be upset if the BBC was no longer there, the BBC should remove themselves from Sky's platform, which would save them around £10 million a year.
What Sky subscribers could then do is pay for the BBC via part of the package for £13 per month. Obviously, they shouldn't pay twice, but there must be a way of being able to implement this.
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Two points...why would they not start charging if they thought it was financially beneficial? They won't all the time the licence fee remains. Furthermore, why would (for example) ITV contribute to a platform which supported it's rivals?
People who want to watch ITV, 4 and 5 are watching them now. People who aren't watching them now won't start to watch them (if there was no Beeb).
PC is a good thing and no, again, the BBC is balanced.
A tiny minority, possibly, but not 'many'.
Why don't they make it so you can only use I player if you enter your TV license number. That way it will stop people getting BBC content free that other people are paying for.
That is a possibility. The only thing is, do we want to have to 'sign in' each time we wanted to access the iPlayer? Numbers can also be shared can't they unless they make it so that you have to register devices to a particular number.
that is too simple for the bbc they would. rather use scare tactics to rob us all of £145 a year
I would make Sky, Virgin etc. pay the BBC for rebroadcasting BBC shows.
The threads on DS that are hijacked by anti-Tory statements are hilarious! Get over it! Five years is a long time to be angry.
The BBC will NOT be privatised. FACT.
The BBC will NOT be subscription only. FACT.
The BBC will NOT be gone forever by 2020. FACT.
The BBC will continue, by and large, as it has done for 9 decades. FACT.
The BBC survived 18 years of Tory Governments between 1979 and 1997. FACT.
The BBC may be more steamlined. FACT.
The BBC may need to reduce its overall TV output. FACT.
The BBC may need to revevaluate what it considers as Public Value. FACT.
The BBC may have to be governed by an independent body. FACT.
The BBC will, however, still be the BBC. FACT.
Ben Bradshaw inflicting a lot of harm on the BBC back in 2006. He ordered the closure of TV Centre and the move to Manchester. He restricted the LF rise to the rate of inflation - which was far less than the BBC needed. All the Coalition did (not just Tories) was Freeze the LF at the rate of inflation back in 2010, and since then, we've had inflation of just 0.05% AND deflation, so even if the LF rose, it would be so minimal it would have made little difference.
because it is for that, and not something you would rather it be.
why should sky and virgin pay the bbc a penny unless of course they went behind a pay wall
ignorant drivel. The bbc has had a 25% funding cut.
It had a FREEZE. A cut is the Tories saying "we will cut your LF by 25%". They didn't. The BBC are getting the same amount of money now as they did in 2010. They just have to use it to fund different things.
no it isn't. FACT .
For the privilege of showing BBC shows. What Sky and the like should also pay the BBC for is for carrying BBC channels on their platforms.
How could anyone answer that? If BBC4 was a subscription channel like Sky Atlantic and MORE people chose Sky Atlantic then yes, it would be more valuable. I'm not bothered about American programmes but millions are. But, for people who rave about BBC4 but slate Sky Atrlantic for being mainly American, why is American programming not acceptable for the BBC but European programming with subtitles is? Both are foreign.
Have costs been frozen since 2010? Nope. They've risen since the Tory freeze was forced upon them. What the Tories also forced onto the BBC was the funding of S4C, BBC Monitoring and of course the World Service. Broadband roll-out has also seen more money (wrongly) diverted away from the BBC.
rubbish sky should pay nothing to the bbc the bbc should pay sky for for a place on its platform like any other broadcaster
The other way round. Sky should pay the BBC...along with Virgin Media and any other platform which carries BBC channels.
I agree. The BBC choose to be available on Sky. They are available on Satellite through Freesat and through an aerial with Freeview. Sky is seen as an ADDITIONAL service and as such doesn't need the BBC. If the BBC shouldn't pay, neither should ITV or C4 or C5.
Infact, if everyone is so convinced the BBC is so popular and are confident that the "masses" would be upset if the BBC was no longer there, the BBC should remove themselves from Sky's platform, which would save them around £10 million a year.
What Sky subscribers could then do is pay for the BBC via part of the package for £13 per month. Obviously, they shouldn't pay twice, but there must be a way of being able to implement this.