Will people remember who Guy Mowbray is in 50 years time?

chemical2009bchemical2009b Posts: 5,250
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Coleman, Motty and Davies will always be fondly remembered but will anyone know a man who has commentated on two World Cup finals, one Euro Championships final, three League Cup finals and one FA Cup final for the BBC in Mowbray be looked back on in a few decades time? I doubt it.
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  • degsyhufcdegsyhufc Posts: 59,251
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    Who ?
  • casinoman13casinoman13 Posts: 7,075
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    Surely if you were to ask such a question, why not ask it on the Commentators Thread?

    Unbelievable!
  • pjexpjex Posts: 9,371
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    Depends if England win the World Cup or Euros when he is commentating
  • Bandspread199Bandspread199 Posts: 4,898
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    I don't know the dude!
  • andrewpandrewp Posts: 799
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    Sunderland supporters will always remember him.
  • innitrichieinnitrichie Posts: 9,795
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    Most people don't know who he is now. So the answer is pretty obvious.
  • ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    People still remember Kenneth Wolstenholme and that was 49 years ago !
  • soulboy77soulboy77 Posts: 24,469
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    ftv wrote: »
    People still remember Kenneth Wolstenholme and that was 49 years ago !
    Yes, he wrote the Frankenstein book or was that Wollstonecraft? ;-)
  • davelovesleedsdavelovesleeds Posts: 22,593
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    ftv wrote: »
    People still remember Kenneth Wolstenholme and that was 49 years ago !

    Yes, but we don't like to talk about that do we. :D
  • ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    Yes, but we don't like to talk about that do we. :D

    ''Some people are on the pitch....''
  • ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    ftv wrote: »
    ''Some people are on the pitch....''

    Pub quiz question: Who was the ITV commentator on the 1966 World Cup Final ?
  • seagull_Markseagull_Mark Posts: 3,980
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    Coleman, Motty and Davies will always be fondly remembered but will anyone know a man who has commentated on two World Cup finals, one Euro Championships final, three League Cup finals and one FA Cup final for the BBC in Mowbray be looked back on in a few decades time? I doubt it.

    I think there are that many commentators around on live games now that very few will be remembered from the current crop across all channels. It was different before the 90s where you would only hear around 5 or 6 voices live across the channels. Now there are dozens and many blend (or bland) into each other.

    So it's nothing against Guy Mowbray or whoever succeeds Clive Tyldesley as itv's number one. I don't think we'll ever again get a commentator akin to John Motson where virtually the entire public know of him.
  • mikey1980mikey1980 Posts: 3,647
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    I think there are that many commentators around on live games now that very few will be remembered from the current crop across all channels. It was different before the 90s where you would only hear around 5 or 6 voices live across the channels. Now there are dozens and many blend (or bland) into each other.

    So it's nothing against Guy Mowbray or whoever succeeds Clive Tyldesley as itv's number one. I don't think we'll ever again get a commentator akin to John Motson where virtually the entire public know of him.

    You're right. Between 1966 and 1992 in the pre-multi-channel age, it was BBC versus ITV. Whoever was the number one / number two commentator on either channel would cover a wide array of football and all the biggest games. In the 23 years since, sports rights have diversified across Channel Four, Channel Five, Sky Sports, Setanta Sports, ESPN, BT Sport, Eurosport and others. There will never again be a "voice of football" who is widely known beyond the world of the football and who covers all the big games to the widest audience.

    Plus, Motson, Wolstenholme, Coleman, Moore and Davies all had distinctive voices and styles. To the untrained ear, there's veyr little to distinguish Mowbray from, say, Bill Leslie.

    And Mowbray hardly has a ready supply of catchy, memorable commentary lines. He's a good, solid commentator and that's about it.
  • colly_tygcolly_tyg Posts: 1,840
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    ftv wrote: »
    Pub quiz question: Who was the ITV commentator on the 1966 World Cup Final ?

    Hugh Johns.

    Next.
  • ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    colly_tyg wrote: »
    Hugh Johns.

    Next.

    Well done

    Which is the only English club that plays in the Scottish league ?
  • pjexpjex Posts: 9,371
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    ftv wrote: »
    Well done

    Which is the only English club that plays in the Scottish league ?

    Berwick Rangers
  • Old EndeavourOld Endeavour Posts: 9,852
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    degsyhufc wrote: »
    Who ?

    Exactly! The arrogance sporting people have that their chosen hobby is everyone's who reason to be on the planet and that everyone simply must and does know who some sporting commentator is. (I've only worked that out be reading a few posts)

    Will he be remembered in 50 years time? No, certainly not by the people who have never heard of him now.
  • mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    Never mind in 50 years time, who's Guy Mowbray?
  • ChrisEChrisE Posts: 1,877
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    colly_tyg wrote: »
    Hugh Johns.

    Next.

    I was going to go for Gerald Sinstadt.:D
  • fmradiotuner1fmradiotuner1 Posts: 20,496
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    I had never heard of them to. :confused:
  • yaristamanyaristaman Posts: 1,843
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    Exactly! The arrogance sporting people have that their chosen hobby is everyone's who reason to be on the planet and that everyone simply must and does know who some sporting commentator is. (I've only worked that out be reading a few posts)

    Will he be remembered in 50 years time? No, certainly not by the people who have never heard of him now.

    To be fair to the OP, the mention of World Cups, European Championships, League Cups and the FA Cup Final were kind of a clue as to the job that Guy Mowbray does.
  • Chris1964Chris1964 Posts: 19,786
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    mikey1980 wrote: »
    You're right. Between 1966 and 1992 in the pre-multi-channel age, it was BBC versus ITV. Whoever was the number one / number two commentator on either channel would cover a wide array of football and all the biggest games. In the 23 years since, sports rights have diversified across Channel Four, Channel Five, Sky Sports, Setanta Sports, ESPN, BT Sport, Eurosport and others. There will never again be a "voice of football" who is widely known beyond the world of the football and who covers all the big games to the widest audience.

    Plus, Motson, Wolstenholme, Coleman, Moore and Davies all had distinctive voices and styles. To the untrained ear, there's veyr little to distinguish Mowbray from, say, Bill Leslie.

    And Mowbray hardly has a ready supply of catchy, memorable commentary lines. He's a good, solid commentator and that's about it.

    Yes its a bit unfair on Mr Mowbray I think. You are right regarding commentators of yesteryear. Not just football, other sports too. The seventies were a golden age of commentary and the names synonymous with the sports they described-but as stated, there were only three channels with the BBC having by far the lion share of key sporting events. If you were on tv in general in the seventies you were virtually guaranteed household name status because so few people by comparison with today were actually on the airwaves.
  • ds_readerds_reader Posts: 10,353
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    Coleman, Motty and Davies will always be fondly remembered but will anyone know a man who has commentated on two World Cup finals, one Euro Championships final, three League Cup finals and one FA Cup final for the BBC in Mowbray be looked back on in a few decades time? I doubt it.

    Do you think many will remember Motty in 2058?

    AND who is Davies?
  • ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    Harry Commentator is your Carpenter - Frank Bough

    For those of you watching in black and white Wolves are playing in yellow - Motty

    Football is not a matter of life and death it's more important than that - Bill Shankley (did he ever actually say that ?)
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    ftv wrote: »
    For those of you watching in black and white Wolves are playing in yellow - Motty

    Wrong. Motson would not have committed such an error, he is too much of a trainspotter to say that, he knows Wolves refer to their shirt as 'old gold'.
    The actual source of that error was Ted Lowe on Pot Black - 'for those watching in black and white, the blue is behind the pink' was the quote.
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