Then why are people still so nostalgic and sentimental over the format?
because there's clearly still a demand for music in a physical format. Im just puzzled some want a format - vinyl - that was replaced by what generally was seen as a better one - cd. The reason why vinyl lost the battle with cd so fast
Im nostalgic and sentimental about my 7 inch single collection...until i play them and then the crackles etc remind me why i was only too glad to ditch them for cd singles.
If you seriously think streaming can sound better than vinyl then you need your hearing tested!!
no i don't. if you think it's not true then you need to read up on it unless you want to have incorrect ideas about it
note that i didn't say it can sound better. what "sounds better" is subjective and up to an individual. what i did say is streaming can have higher quality sound, which is factually correct
because there's clearly still a demand for music in a physical format. Im just puzzled some want a format - vinyl - that was replaced by what generally was seen as a better one - cd. The reason why vinyl lost the battle with cd so fast.
The overall trend from shellac to streaming is for better quality and less intrusive systems. We've gone from bulky gramophones to small wireless speakers, via music centres, rack systems, separates etc. But at the same time we've had other shorter trends, essentially fashions, and vinyl and CD are fashion products as well as music products. At the moment vinyl is fashionable. It also sounds pretty good on the right equipment, whereas in the 80s when CDs were first fashionable they often sounded rather ropey. Some would argue the wheel has come full circle and over-compressed modern CDs are less faithful to the original sound than vinyl.
I am not sure how the heck these things are supposed to give the same full-range, room filling experience of good old fashioned floor-standers with plenty of space inside for the speakers so breathe?
At most I think would like an add on way to easily relay music being played on my main hi-fi in my living room to my smaller bedroom stereo.
because there's clearly still a demand for music in a physical format. Im just puzzled some want a format - vinyl - that was replaced by what generally was seen as a better one - cd. The reason why vinyl lost the battle with cd so fast
Im nostalgic and sentimental about my 7 inch single collection...until i play them and then the crackles etc remind me why i was only too glad to ditch them for cd singles.
For me, it's all about selecting a record from the title cards, putting in a coin and pressing the buttons and hearing the click of the latch solenoid disengaging.
Then the whir of the carousel and the noise of the gripper arm placing the record on the turntable. Followed by the tone arm landing on the track-in area and the amplifier mute coming off.
Then the anticipation as the stylus tracks in with the occasional click from minor scratches before you hear an old favourite via two 12" and two 8" speakers.
Sheer nostalgia.
My little camera can't do this justice, the bass on this is phenomenal.
The overall trend from shellac to streaming is for better quality and less intrusive systems. We've gone from bulky gramophones to small wireless speakers, via music centres, rack systems, separates etc. But at the same time we've had other shorter trends, essentially fashions, and vinyl and CD are fashion products as well as music products. At the moment vinyl is fashionable. It also sounds pretty good on the right equipment, whereas in the 80s when CDs were first fashionable they often sounded rather ropey. Some would argue the wheel has come full circle and over-compressed modern CDs are less faithful to the original sound than vinyl.
Less intrusive, sure. But better quality? I'm not sure that many digital systems will output better quality than a vinyl system. Obviously, it depends on each set-up, but on the whole, digital is more about convenience than quality.
Less intrusive, sure. But better quality? I'm not sure that many digital systems will output better quality than a vinyl system. Obviously, it depends on each set-up, but on the whole, digital is more about convenience than quality.
I agree, but high-quality vinyl systems have never been that popular. Dansettes, music centres, Crosleys etc have been the mass-market products.
I have a UE wireless speaker about the size of a can of baked beans. It produces remarkably good sound for its size, clean, undistorted and what little bass it reproduces sounds natural not overblown and boomy. I far prefer my vinyl system but I can't take that into the kitchen every time I want to listen to music whilst cooking etc.
I agree, but high-quality vinyl systems have never been that popular. Dansettes, music centres, Crosleys etc have been the mass-market products.
I have a UE wireless speaker about the size of a can of baked beans. It produces remarkably good sound for its size, clean, undistorted and what little bass it reproduces sounds natural not overblown and boomy. I far prefer my vinyl system but I can't take that into the kitchen every time I want to listen to music whilst cooking etc.
"Back in the day," when I was a teenager and used to have my Trio amp, plus turntable and speakers, there were some pop records that seemed to sound best played on a Dansette, the record player of choice for several teenage female friends.
As I recall this was one off them. (Not my choice of pop).
"Back in the day," when I was a teenager and used to have my Trio amp, plus turntable and speakers, there were some pop records that seemed to sound best played on a Dansette
Probably mixed and mastered to sound good on cheap equipment. The same reason some songs today have no dynamic range and overblown bass, so they sound good on mobile phones.
Probably mixed and mastered to sound good on cheap equipment. The same reason some songs today have no dynamic range and overblown bass, so they sound good on mobile phones.
That was also the problem with a lot of CDs in the '80s and '90s, they were often mastered to sound "good" on a boombox.
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because there's clearly still a demand for music in a physical format. Im just puzzled some want a format - vinyl - that was replaced by what generally was seen as a better one - cd. The reason why vinyl lost the battle with cd so fast
Im nostalgic and sentimental about my 7 inch single collection...until i play them and then the crackles etc remind me why i was only too glad to ditch them for cd singles.
no i don't. if you think it's not true then you need to read up on it unless you want to have incorrect ideas about it
note that i didn't say it can sound better. what "sounds better" is subjective and up to an individual. what i did say is streaming can have higher quality sound, which is factually correct
The overall trend from shellac to streaming is for better quality and less intrusive systems. We've gone from bulky gramophones to small wireless speakers, via music centres, rack systems, separates etc. But at the same time we've had other shorter trends, essentially fashions, and vinyl and CD are fashion products as well as music products. At the moment vinyl is fashionable. It also sounds pretty good on the right equipment, whereas in the 80s when CDs were first fashionable they often sounded rather ropey. Some would argue the wheel has come full circle and over-compressed modern CDs are less faithful to the original sound than vinyl.
At most I think would like an add on way to easily relay music being played on my main hi-fi in my living room to my smaller bedroom stereo.
For me, it's all about selecting a record from the title cards, putting in a coin and pressing the buttons and hearing the click of the latch solenoid disengaging.
Then the whir of the carousel and the noise of the gripper arm placing the record on the turntable. Followed by the tone arm landing on the track-in area and the amplifier mute coming off.
Then the anticipation as the stylus tracks in with the occasional click from minor scratches before you hear an old favourite via two 12" and two 8" speakers.
Sheer nostalgia.
My little camera can't do this justice, the bass on this is phenomenal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIaVfQT84S8
Less intrusive, sure. But better quality? I'm not sure that many digital systems will output better quality than a vinyl system. Obviously, it depends on each set-up, but on the whole, digital is more about convenience than quality.
Better than the a high resolution stream or download played through the same audiophile quality amp and speakers as the vinyl? I doubt it.
I agree, but high-quality vinyl systems have never been that popular. Dansettes, music centres, Crosleys etc have been the mass-market products.
I have a UE wireless speaker about the size of a can of baked beans. It produces remarkably good sound for its size, clean, undistorted and what little bass it reproduces sounds natural not overblown and boomy. I far prefer my vinyl system but I can't take that into the kitchen every time I want to listen to music whilst cooking etc.
"Back in the day," when I was a teenager and used to have my Trio amp, plus turntable and speakers, there were some pop records that seemed to sound best played on a Dansette, the record player of choice for several teenage female friends.
As I recall this was one off them. (Not my choice of pop).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Uo1nNt6LU
Live Streaming can't but offline mode can . 320k offline streams are practically equal to CD and that's the best way to listen to Spotify etc
That was also the problem with a lot of CDs in the '80s and '90s, they were often mastered to sound "good" on a boombox.
tidal streams lossless, so the same quality as CD
streaming doesn't always mean from "online" or the internet either, you can stream HD audio or video from your PC to your media player