[Addisonian]

Originally Posted by netcurtains

Of course it's easy to say what she should have done, she should have done her job.
I've dealt with kids, you have to deal with them properly right from the off. My last job was as a manager of a small bakery. Every lunchtime I had to deal with a couple of hundred 11-16yr olds.
Any bad behaviour from any of them was dealt with immediately, bad language, shoplifting, anything else that annoyed me and they were banned and the school informed. If I'd buried my head in the sand like this woman did, the kids would have soon realised as I was a pushover and my job would have been unbearable as it was I loved it, most of the kids were great and that hour making them sarnies flew by but only because they knew the boundaries, friendly banter and general cheekiness fine, abusive swearing not fine.

Well, that's great. Whoopee for you. But not everyone is like you. And are you trying to say that you have never done something - or not done something as the case may be- where you later on wished you'd acted differently? Of course you have; it's human nature. I agree this woman should not have been a 'bus monitor' if she isn't able to control the kids but I blame her superiors for allowing her to be in that situation.
I can't fathom why you and the other poster above think that she is partly to blame for the abuse she got. It's almost as though you think she deserves it.

[AnnaliseZ]

Originally Posted by Jamesthethird

I have had about enough of this whole good vs evil debate, you are either apparently on Karen's side, or the kids, well that is just guff.

Oh the irony, you couldn't have condemned the woman any more. You aren't exactly coming across as balanced and able to look at both sides.

[Jamesthethird]

Originally Posted by AnnaliseZ

Oh the irony, you couldn't have condemned the woman any more. You aren't exactly coming across as balanced and able to look at both sides.

Why? I have said multiple times that the kids have done wrong all you have done is looked for excuses for Karen not doing her job.

[AnnaliseZ]

Originally Posted by Jamesthethird

Why? I have said multiple times that the kids have done wrong all you have done is looked for excuses for Karen not doing her job.

Have I? Please point these excuses out to me.

[Sophie ~Oohie~]

Originally Posted by Jamesthethird

I hope I can brighten up your day then. The parents of the children have had their bank accounts hacked. A lot of the money raised to pay for Karen's vacation was stolen from the parents. A large amount of mail has been sent to the children's addresses including insults, child pornography, sex toys, pictures of chopped up toddlers and death threats. The children's facebooks have been torn apart and I believe most have been deleted, their mobile phone numbers were also given out and they received torrents of abuse and threats through that. The school also know about the incident now but I am yet to discover what punishments they will receive.



We do know she couldn't control the bus and she did not have a healthy relationship with the pupils.
There are multiple videos on different days showing these kids bullying her, there is also this video were she confesses it was a long standing thing;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=668AQoumzWo

Very helpful, those people have now broken the law by doing that and will now be in serious trouble with the police.

[Jamesthethird]

Originally Posted by AnnaliseZ

Have I? Please point these excuses out to me.

I am sorry I just looked there and i have you confused with "AnnaliseZ" who I was talking with before you joined in.

[AnnaliseZ]

Originally Posted by Jamesthethird

I am sorry I just looked there and i have you confused with "AnnaliseZ" who I was talking with before you joined in.

And again - feel free to point out these excuses you say I have made.

[Jamesthethird]

Originally Posted by AnnaliseZ

And again - feel free to point out these excuses you say I have made.

Sorry I meant to say I got you confused with "Addisonian",they are the ones who made excuses.

[Addisonian]

Originally Posted by Jamesthethird

Sorry I meant to say I got you confused with "Addisonian",they are the ones who made excuses.

As far as I can see, I have agreed with you that she should have reported the children sooner. What I didn't agree with was that she was to blame for the abuse she got.
But please point out these exuses I am making for Karen not doing her job.
You were not even sure which forum member you had been discussing this with a few minutes ago so forgive me if I find your arguments slightly flawed.

[Jamesthethird]

Originally Posted by Addisonian

As far as I can see, I have agreed with you that she should have reported the children sooner. What I didn't agree with was that she was to blame for the abuse she got.
But please point out these exuses I am making for Karen not doing her job.
You were not even sure which forum member you had been discussing this with a few minutes ago so forgive me if I find your arguments slightly flawed.

You said she was a 68 year old lady as if it was an excuse for not doing her job.
You also blamed her "supervisors" for allowing her to do the job without any thought to how they would even know there was a problem.

I don't see how my inattentiveness to user names has anything to do with my ability to draw conclusions on this topic.

[River 07]

In more context

http://www.godvine.com/Grandmother-G...This-1672.html

[Swanandduck2]

Originally Posted by Steve™

I think in any situation where the person is a useless weak individual, they should exploit the law to obtain satisfactory resolution.

Although I dont take the threats of children seriously, I believe that sometimes a serious talk with a Police Officer is the best way to knock this kind of behaviour on the head.

So you would turn the bus around, bring all the children back to school, seriously inconvenience the parents of the kids not involved in the 'teasing' and call the police to come out there and then for what you reagard as a 'not serious' matter?

[agent9sniper]

Originally Posted by GeoBa92

If only pinkteddy was here. He'd sort out all this UK vs. U.S. stuff by posting pictures of corridors and Primark shops from Scunthorpe!

Sigh! Here is your corridor (painted yellow for good measure): http://i48.tinypic.com/2jcc0b7.png and here is your Primark shop in Scunthorpe: http://assets1.qypecdn.net/uploads/p...t_gallery2.png And because I am feeling generous tonight, I'll also throw in a picture of a House Of Fraser store: http://lds.localdataimages.com/large/2118/21187264.jpg

Now, back on the topic of the kids bullying the bus monitor, I find it somewhat unusual that a grown person would let kids get to them so badly. I thought that in the United States, adult people are generally made of much tougher stuff as so not to let kids get to them so badly?