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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    Full Bob and Skeleton timetable for Calgary

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkr7c8lwpup_LfDV7hOQWsg

    Friday
    19:00 Women's skeleton 1
    20:00 Men's skeleton 1
    21:15 Women's skeleton 2
    22:15 Men's skeleton 2

    Saturday AM
    00:30 2-Man bob 1
    02:00 2-Man bob 2

    Saturday PM
    18:00 Women's bob 1
    19:30 Women's bob 2
    21:00 4-Man 1
    22:30 4-Man 2

    And a reminder two other events are on Thursday this week

    12:15 Snowboarding Parallel GS from Montafon, Austria
    13:15 Biathlon women's sprint from Pokljuka
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    Things are liable to be a bit messed about all this weekend because there have been cancellations, changes of venue and changes of event across several of the sports. These seem to be the fixed points. More to come.

    Biathlon at Pokljuka
    Friday
    13:30 Men's sprint
    Saturday
    10:00 Women's pursuit
    12:30 Men's pursuit
    Sunday
    10:15 Women's mass start
    12:30 Men's mass start

    Snowboarding - Two different events
    Friday
    09:45 Mixed Parallel Slalom from Montafon
    Saturday
    17:00 Big Air event from Istanbul (presumably an artificial hill!)

    Ski Jumping from Engelberg Austria
    Saturday
    13:15 Men's big hill
    Sunday
    13:15 Men's big hill
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    Alpine
    Friday
    11:00 Men's Super G from Val Gardena
    Saturday
    09:15 Women's downhill from Val d'Isere
    11.00 Men's downhill from Val Gardena
    Sunday
    08:15:& 11:15 Men's GS from Alta Badia
    09:15 Women's Super-G from Val d'Isere
    Monday
    16:30 & 19:30
    Men's slalom from Madonna di Campiglio

    Cross country from Davos
    Saturday
    11:30 Men's 15K Free
    15:30 Women's 10K Free
    Sunday
    11:30 Classic Sprint

    Nordic Combined - Eurosport going back to their bad old habit of showing the skijumping live but scheduling the race at odd times.

    There is also a Freestyle Aerials World Cup in Beijing, and the Short Track World Cup from Seoul.

    http://livemanager.eurovision.edgesuite.net/isu/index.html
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    Some good results for GB athletes over the weekend. In the women's skeleton Laura Deas got her first silver medal in only her second race. Rose McGrandle was 6th. In the men's Dom Parsons was third after the first run, but didn't improve and finished in 7th. Lamin Deen also got a PB, 5th equal in the 4 man bob.

    Elise Christie got her first medals of the season, 2 bronze medals in the 500m and 1000m short track in South Korea. In the Cross Country freestyle sprint in Davos Andrew Young got his first World Cup points of the season, 26th place. Not quite sure if that was a PB for him, he has qualified before.

    Just a reminder that Dave Ryding will be going in the last event before Xmas, the floodlight slalom in Madonna di Campiglio tomorrow at 16:30 and 19:30.
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    JohnWJohnW Posts: 522
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    Something that I've wondered about for a while. Do many of the commentators actually attend the events, or do they spend all their time sitting in little studios in Paris?
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    JohnW wrote: »
    Something that I've wondered about for a while. Do many of the commentators actually attend the events, or do they spend all their time sitting in little studios in Paris?

    Bit of both. Mostly they are in the studio, especially for the Nordic crew who have to cover several events per weekend but the policy seems to be that they get out at least a few times in the season to meet the athletes. Certainly for World Champs etc they are on site.
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    Another good result for Dave Ryding, 16th in tonight's slalom, so now firmly in the WC top 30 starters.
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    Not a full programme, but a few things on this weekend

    Biathlon
    Saturday 16:45 - The World Team Challenge. An annual special invitational race held at the Schalke football stadium in Gelsenkirchen, Germany

    Ski Jumping
    First Round of the Four Hills Tournament which run until the 6th January from Obertsdorf, Germany
    Saturday 15:15 - Qualifying
    Sunday 15:15 - Main event

    Alpine Skiing
    Sunday 08:45 & 12:00 Women's GS from Innsbruck
    Sunday 10:15 Men's Downhill from Santa Caterina
    Monday 08:45 & 11:45 Women's Slalom from Innsbruck
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    howard hhoward h Posts: 23,369
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    Not a full programme, but a few things on this weekend

    Biathlon
    Saturday 16:45 - The World Team Challenge. An annual special invitational race held at the Schalke football stadium in Gelsenkirchen, Germany

    That's worth watching even if you aren's a fan of biathlon!
    Hopefully some links to free (legal) streams can be found - I don't think this is covered on Eurosport??
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    howard h wrote: »
    That's worth watching even if you aren's a fan of biathlon!
    Hopefully some links to free (legal) streams can be found - I don't think this is covered on Eurosport??

    It is on - never used to be, but it has been for the last couple of years.
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    dodradedodrade Posts: 23,851
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    What does anyone reckon of the suggestion of adding cross country running to the Winter Olympics?
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    dodrade wrote: »
    What does anyone reckon of the suggestion of adding cross country running to the Winter Olympics?

    It's not going to happen - the IOC have made it clear that they are not going to increase the number of medals or of competitors, so unless some other sport drops out there won't be a place for it.
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    After many hours of predictably useless messing about, the Four Hills Ski Jumping from Obertsdorf has been rescheduled for Monday, 15:30 UK time. Let's hope the jury have the courage to make sensible decisions quickly in future.
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    Not a full programme this weekend, but quite a lot on. The main thing is the return of winter sports to the BBC - Ski Sunday at 16:45 and live Red Button coverage of the Zagreb Women's slalom.

    Cross Country
    It's the Tour de Ski - a series of races lasting until next Sunday, conducted in Tour de France format, with individual stages and a single overall winner.
    Saturday 09:30 & 11:45 - Short prologue time trials
    Sunday 10:00 & 11:00 - Pursuit races based on time gaps from the prologue
    Tuesday 12:00 - Sprints
    Wednesday 11:45 & 14:45 - Classic time trials
    Thursday 11:45 & 14:45 - Long distance freestyle point-to-point races

    Ski Jumping
    The Four Hills Tournament continues and concludes
    Sunday 12:45 - Innsbruck
    Tuesday 15:00 Bishofshofen

    Nordic Combined
    From Schonach
    Saturday 10:45 & 14:15 Team Relay
    Sunday 08:45 & 11:45 Individual

    Alpine
    Sunday 08:45 & 12:00 Women's slalom from Zagreb

    Luge
    Four events from Konigsee, lots of times over the weekend

    Biathlon starts again on Wednesday and Thursday, with women's and men's relays from Oberhof at 13:15
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    ATNottsATNotts Posts: 1,238
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    It is really irritating that all the interviews which are done in German, and simultaneously "translated" by David into English.

    I feel sure that he does speak German, as the translations open up fairly accurate, but as he is speaking simultaneously, by the time the interview ends, from the snatches of German that you can pick up the translated answers bear little relation to what is actually being said.

    As for the translations from Kamil Stoch from Polish, I haven'y got the foggiest what is being said, but I bet Polish viewers, if they watch the Eurosport UK feed, find the same issues.

    Surely there can be some way in which we are allowed to hear the interviews in their original language, thus giving David a chance to appraise and paraphrase the responses.

    As I have the opportunity to do so, I actually prefer to watch the jumping, and also the biathlon on the ARD or ZDF as the analysis and interviews are much more comprehensive. To achieve this a second LNB and satellite receiver are all that is needed, and for a wintersports fan, well worth the small investment (my box cost less than € 50.00 from a German retailer).
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    Some sad news - two skiers on the US U-23 team killed in an avalanche in Austria

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30690358

    Sadly, it looks like they ignored good advice.
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    Two more good results for our Cross-Country skiers in the Tour de Ski yesterday - Andrew Young finished 15th, Andrew Musgrave 18th in the Sprints in Val de Moustair. Both beat lots of big names. Musgrave now 26th in the overall Tour de Ski, Young is 60th.

    Lizzy Yarnold returns to the Skeleton World Cup on Friday - races will be live on the BBC Connected Stream as well as highlights on BBC Red Button on Sunday 18:00

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/winter-sports/30698404

    And a bad crash for Simon Amman in the Four Hills yesterday - he was knocked unconscious and had to be taken to hospital. He has regained consciousness, is fully mobile but will stay in hospital for tests. Sadly, probably a career ender - I'm sure his wife and little boy will want it to be.

    http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/WinterSports/2015/01/06/22166771.html
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    ATNottsATNotts Posts: 1,238
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    And a bad crash for Simon Amman in the Four Hills yesterday - he was knocked unconscious and had to be taken to hospital. He has regained consciousness, is fully mobile but will stay in hospital for tests. Sadly, probably a career ender - I'm sure his wife and little boy will want it to be.

    Potentially a worse injury for Nick Fairall in the Bischofhofen quali on Monday; he had an emergency operation to relieve pressure on his back but thankfully seems to be coming through it OK.

    As for Simon Amman, his landings have been iffy all season, and perhaps this accident underlines just why the rules and style marks reward a safe telemark landing - often people ask why jumps aren't just rewarded by distance and I think this makes the case strongly.

    That said, Simmi wasn't the only jumper yesterday to experience stability problems landing in the 130m+ zone, and I thought there may actually have been some imperfection in the landing zone around that area, but nobody seems to have mentioned that in commentary / analysis.
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    Another good day for Andrew Musgrave, 20th in the 10K Classic, his weaker technique so up to 21st overall now, which is bound to improve as others drop out before the killer events tomorrow and on Saturday.
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    Coming up this weekend - part 1

    Bob and skeleton from Altenberg, Germany

    Everything live on YouTube
    https://www.youtube.com/user/bobskeletv/videos?sort=dd&view=2&shelf_id=0&live_view=502

    Skeleton live on BBC Red Button.

    Friday
    08:00 Women skeleton 1
    09:30 Women skeleton 2

    11:30 Women's bob 1
    13:00 Women's bob 2

    Saturday
    08:00 Men's skeleton 1
    09:30 Men's skeleton 2

    11:30 2-Man bob 1
    13:00 2-Man bob 2

    Sunday
    09:00 4-man bob 1
    10:30 4- man bob 2
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    Hugely busy programme this weekend, with lots of sports in action

    Live events on Eurosport

    Biathlon from Obertsdorf

    Friday
    13:00 Women's Sprint

    Saturday
    10:45 Men's Sprint

    Sunday
    10:00 Women's Mass start
    13:15 Men's mass start - Live stream on web, shown delayed on Eurosport 15:00
    http://www.eurovisionsports.tv/ibu/index.html

    Cross Country Tour de Ski

    Saturday
    12:00 Men's 15k classic
    17:00 Women's 10k classic

    Sunday - If you only watch one Cross-country event all year make it these two, an insanely extreme race where the runner have to finish an uphill slalom course.
    11:00 Men's race
    12:15 Women's Race

    More to come...
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    Alpine

    Women in Bad Kleinkirchheim, Austria, Men in Adelboden, Germany

    Saturday
    09:15 Men's GS 1
    10:15 Women'd DH
    12:30 Men's GS 2 - Both the men's runs are also on BBC Red Button

    Sunday
    08:45 Men's Slalom 1
    10:00 Women's Super G
    11:45 Men's Slalom 2

    Ski Jumping from Tauplitz, Austria
    13:30 on both Saturday and Sunday

    And even after that lot there are a lot more things dotted around the Eurosport Schedules

    Nordic Combined from Chaux-Neuve, France
    Two Ski Cross World Cup races from Val Thorens, France
    Freestyle Ski Moguls and Aerials from Deer Valley, USA
    Two Snowboard slalom events from Bad Gastein
    Women's Ski Jumping from Sapporo
    European Speed Skating Champs from Chelyabinsk
    http://livemanager.eurovision.edgesuite.net/isu/index.html
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    Absolutely unbelievable result for Andrew Musgrave today in the 25k Race in the Tour de Ski. Although it was a staggered start pursuit race, and he crossed the line 11th, he was the single fastest runner on the day, and so is credited as the race winner!!! 50 World Cup Points!
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    grassmarketgrassmarket Posts: 33,010
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    There are a whole lot of winter sports World Championships this season - first up is the Ski and Snowboard Worlds, starting on 15 January. It's not quite as prestigious as the others, lots of people prefer to do the X-Games instead. Still, Britain are sending a strong team, full of familiar names from Sochi.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/winter-sports/30726077

    Snowboard Slopestyle : Aimee Fuller, Jamie Nicholls, Billy Morgan, Sam Turnbull
    Snowboard Big Air: Aimee Fuller, Jamie Nicholls, Billy Morgan, Sam Turnbull
    Ski Slopestyle: Katie Summerhayes, Anna Vincenti, Isabel Atkin
    Ski Halfpipe: Murray Buchan, James Machon, Rowan Cheshire, Molly Summerhayes
    Moguls: Ellie Koyander, Andrew Longley
    Aerials: Elodie Wallace, Lloyd Wallace
    Ski Cross: Ed Drake, Liz Stevenson, Emily Sarsfield, Pam Thorburn
    Snowboard Cross: Zoe Gillings-Brier, Stephanie Gehrig, Thomas Bankes
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    Edward_SloleyEdward_Sloley Posts: 10,043
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    Maria Orlova pips Yarnold for the win in Altenberg by four hundredths to claim her first victory in the Skeleton World Cup; Elena Nikitina had a medicore first run, but her second run was the day's fastest and enough to get her on the podium. First and third for Russia, and surprisingly, not a single German on the podium!

    McGrandle and Deas finished in 8th and 10th place respectively.

    Today was also the first time that Nikitina, Marina Gilardoni (SUI) and Deas competed in the same World Cup event - so the fact that Deas finished this meet as the fastest pusher (all three beat the preceding Start Record) is an achievement in itself. Whether she can produce consistently good runs to the end is another thing altogether.
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