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Catholic church condemns IVF pioneer.
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A Vatican official has said the awarding of the Nobel Prize for Medicine to British IVF pioneer Robert Edwards is "completely out of order".
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Now speaking as someone who has first hand knowlegde of the joy that IVF can bring I respectly suggets the church shuts up on this. Surely every life is sacred however it occurs ?
Yet again the church seems to step in with an opinon on how everyone else should conduct there business. Shame they not always so understanding of other people holding views they might not agree with.
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Everybody does that.
Now, everybody knows where the church stands on these issues.
Why does it come as shock? It is their beliefs why not let them get on with it, and those in need IVF treatment just go ahead and get on with.
I don't like Eastenders, but I don't suppose the BBC will pull it just coz I said so
Most people have diffeent views, however most people accept that people having different views is not a bad thing.
Most people that is...
Most people dont like to suggest those who do have differening views as Nazis as the boss of Christianty Inc seems be saying.. However the point is surely all children are special so the fact that science can assist in creation should be a good thing should it now ? After all, if you believe in such things, God created man in his own image...so we create life (kind of) and thats wrong ?
So why is IVF so wrong if all life is sacred ? To deny IVF would be to deny life ?
He is completely entitled to hold and express his opinion just as others have the right to oppose it. I've no problems with that. It's when such people expect/are granted exemptions from laws or actually impose their beliefs on others that I do have a problem.
Let them live in the dark ages if they choose, others however do not, and wish to live in the 21st century.
Oh really? I don't support the catholic church, but if a couple (for whatever reason) are unable to naturally conceive, then aren't we asking for trouble in the long run by allowing otherwise infertile people to have babies?
It seems to me that the more medical intervention there is, the less viable humans as a species are becoming. I'm not joking when I say that the only members of the human race allowed to reproduce should be those who could have done so anyway without any medical intervention during their entire childhood. That would rule me out. It would rule a lot of other people out too.
I consider IVF the start of a slippery slope that could ultimately lead to the extinction of the human species, as we become increasingly dependent on artificial conception, to the point where the lack of natural selection (removal of the worst) results in the human-race becoming weaker and weaker genetically.
Doubt we're allowed to talk about it...
But in respect of your comment they did meet the Pope so that must be condoning it surely?
In other respects, they are suing the Portuguese cop for libel (yes, libel for telling what the investigation files said), herself has just been back to the scene of the crime to 'pray' (I read it as prey). They've employed new investigators from the fund (our donations) money (which bizarrely still stands at about £500k). Two directors have resigned from the fund, including Brother McCann who gave up his job with a drugs company to 'hunt for Maddie'.
New photofit due to be released soon.
In other news, flat where it happened still unsold. G MCN still a tosser.
I hope the answer is no. The human race will always strive to break new ground medically, and if that ultimately leads to the downfall of the race (I doubt it will - we are a resourceful bunch, by and large) well, that is how it shall be.
It would be a long time before that would have any real consequences though, and it might not be that terribly significant at all. I'm more worried about overpopulation.
Do you have any evidence to back any of that up? Has the human race got genetically weaker since we started growing crops, living in cities or watching Eastenders?
By the time (tens if not hundreds of generations if at all) this would have any effect we'd have probably worked out how to fix any problems anyway. We are a terribly bright species after all. Well some of us are.
I don't have any definitive evidence, but I believe watching Eastenders has probably had a negative effect on the brain of those unfortunate enough to have been subjected to it.
Seriously though, tampering with who can or cannot conceive is naturally is not just something we should consider a triumph over nature. It is already known that in some cases for males, it is because genetic defects cause their sperm to underperform. Bypassing this problem by flying them straight into an egg is not a good idea.
I assume then that were you or anyone you care about got seriously ill you would do the decent thing and 'take one for the race' and allow them to die without medical intervention ? You start down this road, however well intentioned, and it leads to all sorts of dark places.
If you believe in God then he created all things including science so therefore any lives created by Doctors are, by extension, created by God. So not sure where the distinction is to be made ?
If they think this dude should not have won the award fine, they are entitled to think and say that just as much as others are entitled to argue.
You do not have to agree with them but some folks will, as is their right.