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New Yorkers Suffer Less Crime than Londoners Until they are Murdered!
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Interesting comparison here:
http://www.londonandnyc.com/2010/12/crime-rate-summary-in-london-and-new.html
We have near triple the rate of rape and 10 times the robberies and car crime. In summary, New York is much safer until you get murdered.
http://www.londonandnyc.com/2010/12/crime-rate-summary-in-london-and-new.html
New York has a fraction of our rape and robbery stats but exactly 4 times the murder rate. If they banned more weapons it would be a far safer city all round.London
Figures for 12 months to October 2010New York City
- Murder - 119
- Rape - 3,159
- Robbery - 34,259
- Assault - 172,940
- Burglary - 89,385
- Motor vehicle crime - 99,842
Figures for the year to date upto 21st November 2010(Sources: NYPD statistics and Metropolitan Police statistics)
- Murder - 476
- Rape - 1,249
- Robbery - 17,263
- Assault - 15,208
- Burglary - 16,549
- Grand Larceny - 33,377
- Grand Larceny Auto - 9,315
We have near triple the rate of rape and 10 times the robberies and car crime. In summary, New York is much safer until you get murdered.
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More likely the policy started by Giuliani in the late 90s of having a police car at pretty much every intersection, coupled with a crackdown on petty crime.
So it isn't safer then
Can we get a population comparison please? Isn't the population of NYC 8,008,278 and London 7,421,209 which makes the higher chance of being raped quite frightening but I also wonder if more crimes in NYC go unreported.
No, I reckon there is little point in comparing anything except the murder figures because a dead body is a dead body.
However the statistics for other crimes are compiled in different ways and people can be incentivsed to report differently because of differences in things such as insurance coverage and accessing help for the victims of crime.
After all in Sweden apparently having a condom burst on you can lead to a rape charge but is that true in New York or London?
That's indeed the main reason. I do generally feel way safer in NY than in London.
Sounds great.
Yes it is, so long as you're still alive, which is when it counts.
I think the rate of gun ownership AND the higher police profile are the answers but there's only one of those I'd like to see replicated here.
I felt safe the whole time I was in NYC, even on the subway at three in the morning. Nothing would drag me back however as it just wasn't a city I liked that much. New York State was lovely however, Albany is beautiful
No, seriously now. If you are 4 times more likely to be killed, then it can never be described as "safer".
"Safer, until you are killed"sic, that's hillarious
No, you can't just "discard" the most dangerous crime to suit your view I'm afraid
What if murder was a million times higher in New York? Heck, there's only 2 people who have survived, but neither of them have been mugged or raped yet
Post 7 demonstrated someone discarding all sorts to suit their perspective. I reckon the post you quoted was in reaction to that.
Well at least now I know you are joking
Nifty
I would be interested to know the circumstances in which those murders took place.
I mean, if 50% of those murdered were drug dealers taking out the opposition for instance, then the average law-abiding New Yorker is going to be less affected, unless they get caught in the crossfire of course.
Most of the lesser crimes impact on law abiding citizens far more than the criminal element. Criminals are far more affected by murder then the rest of us, proportionally speaking. Another good reason why the murder rate is irrelevant for most of us and can be ignored in any comparison. I've been in London for 7 years and I haven't been murdered yet.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/4312170/Metropolitan-Police-amongst-18-forces-to-have-under-reported-violent-crime-for-10-years.html