I contacted a friend last night who's a bit of an expert on Free and Bad Company, as the b side 'I'm a superman for you baby' is credited to Weiss / Kossoff, but he reckons there's no link. Pity as it's about right for just before his first band, Black Cat Bones came about, but I'm sure there would have been plenty of mentions if it was Paul Kossoff..
Buddy Clinton no info 60 - across the street from your house
The YouTube link does all we have - it's Dion's backing band. There must be a back story as to why they're backing someone who doesn't seem to appear anywhere else, but none of the usually wonderful and deep Doo-Wop sites I've seen have anything.
The Clitheroe Kid :o:D
Somehow the argument against Lauren Harries is shrinking fast
The YouTube link does all we have - it's Dion's backing band. There must be a back story as to why they're backing someone who doesn't seem to appear anywhere else, but none of the usually wonderful and deep Doo-Wop sites I've seen have anything.
After many doo-wop hits in the USA in the fifties Dion split from the Belmonts in 1960. Dion went solo (although he was backed by an uncredited group called the Del Satins) and recorded classics like "Runaround Sue" and "The Wanderer" (tracks that are often today erroneously attributed to being by Dion and the Belmonts).
It could be that, following the split from Dion, the Belmonts teamed up with Buddy Clinton. As you say there's not a lot of information available. For all we know Buddy Clinton's Belmonts and Dion's Belmonts could even be two different doo-wop groups with the same name.
For all we know Buddy Clinton's Belmonts and Dion's Belmonts could even be two different doo-wop groups with the same name.
It's clear it's the same Belmonts - the YouTube link identifies at least one voice.
Which reminds me -
the thing that I find great is that anyone passing through Google about these tracks is that Robs posts come up early, so anyone who wants to dig further knows where to start from. Perhaps even at some point some of the questions thrown up will get answered,
This track is not wonderful and it's also from the wrong decade, but I'm posting it as it's a bit of a curiosity.
From two years before her first big hit as a songwriter ("Will You Love Me Tomorrow" by the Shirelles) and four years before her first hit and only sixties hit as an artist ("It Might As Well Rain Until September"), here is Carole King's first official recording:-
Other than Clive is Clive Wilson, pretty well all the little info about the duos is on the YouTube links. 'Change of plan' is a typical early Georgie Fame and the Blue Flames R+B/Jazz piece (they're the backing on both sides). The b side 'Little Gloria' is a Ska/Calypso piece. It's the riff from Prince Buster's 'Madness', later covered by Madness themselves.
Clive Wilson recorded a couple of rare Ska pieces up to about 1965, backed by The Skatelites and Don Drummond. Naomi Campbell als did a couple of other singles
Other than Clive is Clive Wilson, pretty well all the little info about the duos is on the YouTube links. 'Change of plan' is a typical early Georgie Fame and the Blue Flames R+B/Jazz piece (they're the backing on both sides). The b side 'Little Gloria' is a Ska/Calypso piece. It's the riff from Prince Buster's 'Madness', later covered by Madness themselves.
Clive Wilson recorded a couple of rare Ska pieces up to about 1965, backed by The Skatelites and Don Drummond. Naomi Campbell als did a couple of other singles
That's not really the original, which would have been sung in French by the song's Belgian composer, Jacques Brel, but it may be the original English language version. And yes, I have to agree, it's very much better than the version by Terry Jacks.
Curiosity got the better of me since my last post and I decided to check online to discover who actually did do the first English language version. It wasn't the 1968 version by the Fortunes, it was this one from 1964:-
Club Quintet 60 - caravelle (secret serenade) - no youtube vid
No idea - other than the label for both their singles say The Club Quintet and this is the b side of 'Bluer than blue' (there's no vid for that either).
The entries for the other two artists have all there is attached to the links.
No idea - other than the label for both their singles say The Club Quintet and this is the b side of 'Bluer than blue' (there's no vid for that either).
The entries for the other two artists have all there is attached to the links.
this a side b side thing is cropping up with startling regularity. obviously in most cases i dont know and tbh cant be bothered to check out what the record collector book is telling me...i trust such a publication to get it right but tbh several titles have been inaccurate too. ill try to be more vigilant and sus out which the a/b sides are.
this a side b side thing is cropping up with startling regularity.
ill try to be more vigilant and sus out which the a/b sides are.
Makes you wonder how many more there are, because I'm only looking at the 'no info' entries.
tbh rob, you've probably got enough on with just putting the posts together. It's not your fault if they get it wrong, and I'm quite happy to do the background work on the oddities when I can.
Makes you wonder how many more there are, because I'm only looking at the 'no info' entries.
tbh rob, you've probably got enough on with just putting the posts together. It's not your fault if they get it wrong, and I'm quite happy to do the background work on the oddities when I can.
well i have corrected a couple... i search for the apparent a side and the b side comes up which is the a side in reality.
i guess the thread will still work even if a very few wrong uns slip through...
well i have corrected a couple... i search for the apparent a side and the b side comes up which is the a side in reality.
i guess the thread will still work even if a very few wrong uns slip through...
this.
The thread is a grand thing. Perhaps you need to step back a bit and see what you've achieved,
Have a look at the viewed numbers for a start. There's 266,000 people read your thread. Thats; 260,00 people looking on Ds from somewhere or other. Let alone the net searches ...
on Google you bounce up near the top regularly.
They're led to a song, the information you provide is near the top of the list (actually most of the time it's the top as a recent search.
Now I do the subsidiary because I happen to know a bit, and at the moment have the time to augment
You provide a service. I might hep a bit, but you're the catalyist.
(I still wonder what we could have accomplished if I'd not wandered off).
You carry on. It's not for you to spend your life on inconseqentiatliites ;-)
Comments
Buddy Clinton
no info
60 - across the street from your house - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dQ_0fkHHVw
Clique (uk)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clique_%281960s_UK_band%29
65 - she aint no good - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bxrXzbg1CQ
66 - we didnt kiss, didnt love, but now we do - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i_5KIEBEU8
Clique (us)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clique_%28Texas_band%29
69 - sugar on sunday - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4vIRDmM_Uc
Jimmy Clitheroe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Clitheroe
65 - they all blame jim - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYD9HYXsRZQ
The Clitheroe Kid :o:D
Somehow the argument against Lauren Harries is shrinking fast
After many doo-wop hits in the USA in the fifties Dion split from the Belmonts in 1960. Dion went solo (although he was backed by an uncredited group called the Del Satins) and recorded classics like "Runaround Sue" and "The Wanderer" (tracks that are often today erroneously attributed to being by Dion and the Belmonts).
It could be that, following the split from Dion, the Belmonts teamed up with Buddy Clinton. As you say there's not a lot of information available. For all we know Buddy Clinton's Belmonts and Dion's Belmonts could even be two different doo-wop groups with the same name.
Which reminds me -
the thing that I find great is that anyone passing through Google about these tracks is that Robs posts come up early, so anyone who wants to dig further knows where to start from. Perhaps even at some point some of the questions thrown up will get answered,
From two years before her first big hit as a songwriter ("Will You Love Me Tomorrow" by the Shirelles) and four years before her first hit and only sixties hit as an artist ("It Might As Well Rain Until September"), here is Carole King's first official recording:-
Carole King - The Right Girl (1958)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAaxkgx32_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6AZNywvF-s
no info
63 - change of plan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjp3l9ZzdI0
64 - money money money - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3xcqRWj-oI
64 - do the ska - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVvmd87cWTs
Clive and Naomi
no info same clive though
65 - you are mine - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2f3qEv57iw
Clockwork Oranges
no info
66 - ready steady - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N88hVNJh8PA
Rosmary Clooney
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Clooney
60 - love love away - no youtube vid!
60 - for you - no youtube vid
60 - many a wonderful moment - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I36pjeicRw
Clive Wilson recorded a couple of rare Ska pieces up to about 1965, backed by The Skatelites and Don Drummond. Naomi Campbell als did a couple of other singles
Interesting band history - and still a bit of a mystery
http://www.radiolondon.co.uk/rl/scrap60/fabforty/65fabs/feb66/270266/fab270266%20-%20Clockwork.html
oh my!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4TBznaGnCM
Who keeps stepping on the cat's tail
It's a bloody good thing there isn't an Italian 'Nuggets' compilation (there isn't, is there )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clouds_%2860s_rock_band%29
69 - make no bones about it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHaMzp87w1w
69 - scrapbook - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql28qOVH4TY
Clovers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clovers
60 - lovey dovey - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIuUmyNL1iE
60 - easy lovin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpZpPJihnOc
61 - honey dripper - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq_Bwgm5kvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkDfY0c_Bzs
no info
60 - caravelle (secret serenade) - no youtube vid
Jeremy Clyde
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Clyde
65 - i love my love - no youtube vid
Clyde Valley Stompers
http://www.allmusic.com/artist/the-clyde-valley-stompers-mn0000157526/biography
62 - peter and the wolf - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9k1VRuil4Q
C.M.J.
no info
68 - i cant do it all be myself - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kskNUvI_MY
Coachmen
no info
66 - gabrielle - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHSL1kSkq-Y
short post today, large one tomorrow...
edit... BLOODY HELL! i didnt know 'seasons in the sun' was a cover, here it is from 66 on the flip side of 'gabrielle' by the coachmen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DebjmsTAmbE
erm... isnt it abit upbeat for a song about impending death?...:o
We've been here before! Here are Posts #789, #790, #791, #792 and #794, which are all on Page 32 of the thread:-
ha ha... thats my memory for you!
i canna remember what i did 3 weeks ago, but remember exactly what i was doing 30 years ago. my short term memory is shocking!
The entries for the other two artists have all there is attached to the links.
this a side b side thing is cropping up with startling regularity. obviously in most cases i dont know and tbh cant be bothered to check out what the record collector book is telling me...i trust such a publication to get it right but tbh several titles have been inaccurate too. ill try to be more vigilant and sus out which the a/b sides are.
cheers anyway
tbh rob, you've probably got enough on with just putting the posts together. It's not your fault if they get it wrong, and I'm quite happy to do the background work on the oddities when I can.
well i have corrected a couple... i search for the apparent a side and the b side comes up which is the a side in reality.
i guess the thread will still work even if a very few wrong uns slip through...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Coasters
60 - what about us - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vueVZYlwNOg
60 - besame mucho - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFiITwlO5Ck
60 - wake me shake me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHLWameumQY
60 - shoppin for clothes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XetJMlt3-l4
61 - wait a minute - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSEQ85QvoZU
61 - little egypt - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d8uEP5-iKc
61 - girls girls girls - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9n3blE0K-w
62 - (aint that) just like me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0SiCe60Qbk
64 - t'aint nothin like me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y11hRytwDDQ
66 - shes a yum yum - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_6MAmVZqgg
67 - soul pad - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COiHL0f7L70
68 - she can - no youtube vid
but the 'b' side as listed in the r c catalogue is - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkG6u2P0U3U
ive heard 'girls, girls, girls,' before by a 60's group... im guessing mid 60's and british?.. cant find any info though... any ideas guys?
oh...it seems it was elvis! :D
The thread is a grand thing. Perhaps you need to step back a bit and see what you've achieved,
Have a look at the viewed numbers for a start. There's 266,000 people read your thread. Thats; 260,00 people looking on Ds from somewhere or other. Let alone the net searches ...
on Google you bounce up near the top regularly.
They're led to a song, the information you provide is near the top of the list (actually most of the time it's the top as a recent search.
Now I do the subsidiary because I happen to know a bit, and at the moment have the time to augment
You provide a service. I might hep a bit, but you're the catalyist.
(I still wonder what we could have accomplished if I'd not wandered off).
You carry on. It's not for you to spend your life on inconseqentiatliites ;-)