[whoever,hey]

Originally Posted by PiazzaCharlie

It currently is a tiny part of the market. As time goes by and other manufacturers move to ultra high res displays I don't think it will be that tiny a part of the market for too long.

How long are you talking though? Tech wise its going to be an age.

[alan1302]

Originally Posted by whoever,hey

How long are you talking though? Tech wise its going to be an age.

A couple of years at most

[PiazzaCharlie]

Originally Posted by whoever,hey

How long are you talking though? Tech wise its going to be an age.

Before other manufacturers bring out similarly high res laptops? Best guess is that it'll be similar to what happened when the Air came out. I'm sure people said similar things then, but a few years later the Air is doing well, and there are plenty of other manufacturers producing comparable machines.

Software wise, Adobe and Google are already on the case. And again, it remains to be seen just how bad websites look anyway - I think when browsers update (Safari already will be, and Chrome at least will be very soon), then text will be fine. Images on the iPad don't look anywhere near bad enough to spoil things, so I'll reserve judgement until I see a new MBP.

[IvanIV]

But the problem here is that you have a very small screen that is high-res. If you use 100% zoom on a web page, it might be unreadable, because the font is too small. You have to zoom. Texts will look great because of so many pixels and antialiasing. I do not know it is possible to specify the size of pictures as relative to the page size. In that case the browser could do this, the actual dimensions of the picture would determine the subjective quality of a displayed picture. Personally I think going above full HD is a waste and a gimmick on Apple's part. But often it does not matter if something makes sense, what matters if it is a USP or not And retina is a buzzword du jour for them at the moment..

[PiazzaCharlie]

Very small screen + hi res. Doesn't seem to be a problem on the iPad.

[paulbrock]

A less than glowing comparison of Apple Maps vs Google Maps.
http://gizmodo.com/5918176/google-ma...urce=pulsenews

are there any reviewers more swayed by Apple's version? MG Siegler or Charles Arthur perhaps....

[TheBigM]

Originally Posted by PiazzaCharlie

Before other manufacturers bring out similarly high res laptops? Best guess is that it'll be similar to what happened when the Air came out. I'm sure people said similar things then, but a few years later the Air is doing well, and there are plenty of other manufacturers producing comparable machines.

The Air has been higher-res for some time now and yet the majority of manufacturers have still been sticking to 1366x768.

In spite of the new iPad's resolution, the majority of Windows RT tablets seem to also be sticking to 1366x768.

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by paulbrock

A less than glowing comparison of Apple Maps vs Google Maps.
http://gizmodo.com/5918176/google-ma...urce=pulsenews

are there any reviewers more swayed by Apple's version? MG Siegler or Charles Arthur perhaps....

I don't want to lose street view so I hope google release a seperate app.

[Dark 1]

Originally Posted by Gormond

I don't want to lose street view so I hope google release a seperate app.

Indeed. Plus, I wonder how good these maps and aerial views are for non-US. Or will it be like many services Apple rolls out at the moment; US-centric with the vague promise of 'coming soon if we can be bothered' for everywhere else.

I just can't help thinking this anti-Google thing they've got going is looking rather dogmatic and cutting off their nose to spite their face.

[PiazzaCharlie]

Originally Posted by TheBigM

The Air has been higher-res for some time now and yet the majority of manufacturers have still been sticking to 1366x768.

In spite of the new iPad's resolution, the majority of Windows RT tablets seem to also be sticking to 1366x768.

The comparison with the Air was in terms of size and form, not its resolution.

Its only been three months since the new iPad came out.

[whoever,hey]

Originally Posted by IvanIV

But the problem here is that you have a very small screen that is high-res. If you use 100% zoom on a web page, it might be unreadable, because the font is too small. You have to zoom. Texts will look great because of so many pixels and antialiasing. I do not know it is possible to specify the size of pictures as relative to the page size. In that case the browser could do this, the actual dimensions of the picture would determine the subjective quality of a displayed picture. Personally I think going above full HD is a waste and a gimmick on Apple's part. But often it does not matter if something makes sense, what matters if it is a USP or not And retina is a buzzword du jour for them at the moment..

It doesn't work like that though, someone else posted earlier about misunderstanding how webpages worked. Webpages use truetype fonts so they are scalable because they are vector. No need to anti-alias them.

Its only the images source that are too low-res.

Originally Posted by Gormond

I don't want to lose street view so I hope google release a seperate app.

Apple wont let them. It will "confuse" the consumer.

[Matt D]

Originally Posted by whoever,hey

Apple wont let them. It will "confuse" the consumer.

Wouldn't surprise me

Google has said it wants to make its Maps available on all platforms, but I can easily see Apple rejecting a standalone Google Maps app due to "duplicating existing features" or some other nonsense...

[psionic]

Originally Posted by Dark 1

Indeed. Plus, I wonder how good these maps and aerial views are for non-US. Or will it be like many services Apple rolls out at the moment; US-centric with the vague promise of 'coming soon if we can be bothered' for everywhere else.

At the moment if you put the map in 3D mode all you flat map with distance perspective, which you can view from any angle. Looks a bit like early versions of Google Earth. As yet no 3D topography or buildings for the UK. It may well come with time, but I won't bank on it.

[psionic]

Originally Posted by Matt D

Wouldn't surprise me

Google has said it wants to make its Maps available on all platforms, but I can easily see Apple rejecting a standalone Google Maps app due to "duplicating existing features" or some other nonsense...

Currently if you navigate to maps.google.com from your browser in iOS 6, if offers to install a shortcut on your home screen to give you one tap access to Google Maps. Most features seem to work fine but sadly no street view.

[hotmat3k]

Originally Posted by PiazzaCharlie

Before other manufacturers bring out similarly high res laptops? Best guess is that it'll be similar to what happened when the Air came out. I'm sure people said similar things then, but a few years later the Air is doing well, and there are plenty of other manufacturers producing comparable machines.

Software wise, Adobe and Google are already on the case. And again, it remains to be seen just how bad websites look anyway - I think when browsers update (Safari already will be, and Chrome at least will be very soon), then text will be fine. Images on the iPad don't look anywhere near bad enough to spoil things, so I'll reserve judgement until I see a new MBP.

I went in to my local authorised Apple reseller to go and see if the new MBP Retina had arrived. I did expect it not to have it as it's normally the last to get anything in brand new for demo being an unofficial Apple store.

Well and behold; they had one sitting there alongside the rest of the new range! I should of taken some pictures, but it's seriously a sexy machine. My only disappointment was not being able to see the desktop in normal mode. By the looks of things, they'd turned on scaled mode to enlarge the desktop scale. However, the clarity was just as impressive as the new iPad. And websites? Any pages that aren't scalable and use a lot of images to structure the site look awful. You can spot the compressed images straight away.

I'm still considering selling off my iMac and MacBook (13") to get one of these as I maybe moving out later this year. I definitely won't have any room for the iMac and still want a power-house.

[IvanIV]

They have to scale up, given the size of the screen, having it in a native resolution would mean you could not read a thing, because pixels are two small. So instead you effectively get the same resolution with more pixels to use, i.e, sharper picture. It will be good for displaying pictures though. Not sure about videos as the maximum readily available is 1920x1080.

[hotmat3k]

Originally Posted by IvanIV

They have to scale up, given the size of the screen, having it in a native resolution would mean you could not read a thing, because pixels are two small. So instead you effectively get the same resolution with more pixels to use, i.e, sharper picture. It will be good for displaying pictures though. Not sure about videos as the maximum readily available is 1920x1080.

Videos will just look even better being scaled up. At least you'll be able to watch a Blu-Ray and do other stuff at the same time. Again, the screen is designed for people using music/photo/video editors as displayed at WWDC.

[paulbrock]

Scaling up pictures is no better than viewing them at native resolution. Good when the web starts embedding higher res pictures though

[jasonkrasnov]

Originally Posted by gamercraig

No new iMac update this year then?

Nope! I was 150% sure that they were going to mention something about it and so was everyone that I spoke to about it.

I was really hoping for a new upgrade or workstation for video editing and graphics. Sorry the retina display on the MacBook Pro does not impress me at all.