Radio 1 Observations - agree/disagree?

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1) Sara Cox is a very talented presenter and should have more air time.

2) Fearne Cotton should be replaced - nobody I know seems to enjoy listening to her.

3) Comedy Dave has never said ANYTHING funny. Fact.

4) Scott Mills is great, but needs some help on his show - Chappers has left, his producer doesn't speak - it can feel empty at times.

5) Reggie Yates, Huw & Edith Bowman are all pretty nondescript.

6) The Chris Moyles show, whilst not perfect, remains a great listen to in the morning.

Just some thoughts! Anyone agree with everything I've said?;)
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  • radrad Posts: 704
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    JoshuaUK wrote: »
    1) Sara Cox is a very talented presenter and should have more air time.

    2) Fearne Cotton should be replaced - nobody I know seems to enjoy listening to her.

    3) Comedy Dave has never said ANYTHING funny. Fact.

    4) Scott Mills is great, but needs some help on his show - Chappers has left, his producer doesn't speak - it can feel empty at times.

    5) Reggie Yates, Huw & Edith Bowman are all pretty nondescript.

    6) The Chris Moyles show, whilst not perfect, remains a great listen to in the morning.

    Just some thoughts! Anyone agree with everything I've said?;)

    I agree with most of your points.

    I don't think Scott Mills show has been the same since Chappers left. The show seems very stale now, and past its best.

    Add Annie Mac to your list of presenters in point 5. She seems worse in the 10am slot than Fearne! However, I wouldn't include Huw - his covering of Greg's show has been pretty good.

    With regards to Chris Moyles, I can see why people like him, but I just find the whole show annoying. I don't find him particularly funny, and often when he is talking, he doesn't seem to know when to finish. He just keeps going on and on.

    One thing that really annoys me about Radio 1 is the news presentation. Does anyone else think that the newsreaders seem to treat the listeners like 8 year olds? They have a very patronising style.
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    rad wrote: »
    One thing that really annoys me about Radio 1 is the news presentation. Does anyone else think that the newsreaders seem to treat the listeners like 8 year olds? They have a very patronising style.
    I'm 100% behind you on this point. I also think the background backing track is too distracting, even drowning out the presenters on some occasions! They must think that unless an 'exciting noise' is added to the news, then listeners won't think its interesting and may switch off. Its extremely patronising, but otherwise I do like their presenters. They should trial it without the backing track and do a listener vote!

    Its a treat when Rod presents the news as I remember him as the 'Dom' of the Mayo breakfast show.
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    You can always tell when the newsroom is busy as Rod does the reports! Newsbeat is incredibly patronizing, this Tulip woman thinks she's Jeremy Paxman with her aggressive way of interrupting people whilst in the middle of their answer. Not only is it rude but if you don't want to hear the answer then you shouldn't ask the question.
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    JoshuaUK wrote: »
    1) Sara Cox is a very talented presenter and should have more air time.

    2) Fearne Cotton should be replaced - nobody I know seems to enjoy listening to her.

    3) Comedy Dave has never said ANYTHING funny. Fact.

    4) Scott Mills is great, but needs some help on his show - Chappers has left, his producer doesn't speak - it can feel empty at times.

    5) Reggie Yates, Huw & Edith Bowman are all pretty nondescript.

    6) The Chris Moyles show, whilst not perfect, remains a great listen to in the morning.

    Just some thoughts! Anyone agree with everything I've said?;)
    1) I've been saying this for some time. It guts me that she only usually does one show a week.

    2) Fearne is a bag of sh*te in her slot and is taking up space. I'm not sure whether she should come off air completely though, because she's bound to have her followers - maybe shove her to weekends? :o

    3) 'Comedy' Dave is an ironic name. He doesn't claim to be funny. I actually find him quite droll though. :)

    4) I think Scott is ok, but I've never liked radio that plays a lot of music (big Moyles fan here!) and Scott does just that. He's certainly missing the deadpan that Chappers brought to the show to balance out the almost camp fun that Scott and Becki / Laura always had.

    5) I think Edith's move has been good for her. I couldn't stand her weekday afternoon show but she's fine where she is now. I never hear Reggie, and I think Huw does fine for what he does on R1, especially considering he's a specialist DJ. I'm presuming you're only taking into account the work he does when he's covering slots.

    6) I won't hear a word against The Chris Moyles Show - it's in good a shape as it's ever been.
    rad wrote: »
    One thing that really annoys me about Radio 1 is the news presentation. Does anyone else think that the newsreaders seem to treat the listeners like 8 year olds? They have a very patronising style.

    I think they're trying to make it 'cool and radical' in order to appeal to their under 25 demographic...
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    One of the problems with the news is that it is so repetitive, with that ridiculous funky beat going on behind it all the time.
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    JoshuaUK wrote: »
    3) Comedy Dave has never said ANYTHING funny. Fact.
    Anyone who adds the word 'Fact' to an opinion immediately loses the argument.
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    rad wrote: »
    I agree with most of your points.

    Add Annie Mac to your list of presenters in point 5. She seems worse in the 10am slot than Fearne! However, I wouldn't include Huw - his covering of Greg's show has been pretty good.

    With regards to Chris Moyles, I can see why people like him, but I just find the whole show annoying. I don't find him particularly funny, and often when he is talking, he doesn't seem to know when to finish. He just keeps going on and on.

    One thing that really annoys me about Radio 1 is the news presentation. Does anyone else think that the newsreaders seem to treat the listeners like 8 year olds? They have a very patronising style.

    I agree with all your points I've put in bold!

    Annie Mac I haven't ever really heard, but when I have occasionally heard her she seems pretty generic and from the Fearne school of presenting...however I presumed she was more about the 'music' because her presentation style is poor.

    Moyles can often go on too long. I can remember the other day during the handover, the other presenter was desperate to start her show and play her song but Moyles just wouldn't stop. She even commented on it after, something along the lines of "he went on too long there".

    Newsbeat is very very patronising. As someone MarkJonesUK says, Tulip is SO patronising. Fair enough, Newsbeat isn't suppose to be Newsnight - but they present like they're talking to five years olds.
    ads84 wrote: »
    1) I've been saying this for some time. It guts me that she only usually does one show a week.

    2) Fearne is a bag of sh*te in her slot and is taking up space. I'm not sure whether she should come off air completely though, because she's bound to have her followers - maybe shove her to weekends? :o

    Hearing Sara on the morning show this week, I couldn't believe Radio1 actually had a radio presenter who was that talented, engaging, funny, warm and smart and yet Fearne Cotton has a 3 hour show each day :s.

    I'm not into insulting presenters needlessly, but as a radio presenter I think Fearne is useless. I know people who actively turn it off when they hear her.
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    JoshuaUK wrote: »


    Hearing Sara on the morning show this week, I couldn't believe Radio1 actually had a radio presenter who was that talented, engaging, funny, warm and smart and yet Fearne Cotton has a 3 hour show each day :s.

    I'm not into insulting presenters needlessly, but as a radio presenter I think Fearne is useless. I know people who actively turn it off when they her here.

    This is one of the great mysteries of our time. FC is ****ing awful. As one of the above posters said, I've never met anyone that likes her. Sara Cox is a great presenter.
  • AbrielAbriel Posts: 8,525
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    sparky2010 wrote: »
    I'm 100% behind you on this point. I also think the background backing track is too distracting, even drowning out the presenters on some occasions! They must think that unless an 'exciting noise' is added to the news, then listeners won't think its interesting and may switch off. Its extremely patronising, but otherwise I do like their presenters. They should trial it without the backing track and do a listener vote!

    Its a treat when Rod presents the news as I remember him as the 'Dom' of the Mayo breakfast show.
    Quite agree- It amazes me that when Dominic and the sport girl do the rob DJ quiz they clearly have less general knowledge than say Moyles or even Dave. What qualification do you need to be a newsreader?
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    Abriel wrote: »
    Quite agre - It amazes me that when Dominic and the sport girl do the rob DJ quiz they clearly have less general knowledge than say Moyles or even Dave. What qualifciation do you need to be a newsreader?

    lol, excellent point. Dom is in his late thirties, he doesn't seem to know about anything that isn't U2 related.
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    1. Sara Cox used to be absolutely terrible but is now a great listen. It would be good to hear more of her, but then I'm just leaving the Radio 1 target audience - is she what 15-25 year olds want, or do they prefer Fearne Cotton? (not a rhetorical question)
    2. Fearne Cotton is my least favourite of the daytime line-up but I don't think she's anywhere near as bad as anyone says. I think it's just become fashionable to bash her. I do wish she would stop doing that : "MOOOOOOOOORNING" thing at the Moyles handover though.
    3. Comedy Dave is more there for Moyles to bounce off. Put it this way, they both sound better when they're together. I think Dom is the real dark horse of the show though.
    4. Scott Mills could do with something new - his shows still funny but a bit of a refresh wouldn't do it any harm, in my opinion at least. The last half hour always seems thrown away as well, which is a bugger when it's the only bit I hear on many days.
    5. Not a fan of Reggie - I reckon Greg James should do the chart on Sunday as well to give it and him a bit of a boost. Huw's a perfectly good stand-in and specialist jock, and Edith has had her time in the peak hours but is still a good listen - when she stops going on about bloody films.
    6. Agreed. There's nothing else like it on the dial.
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    rad wrote: »
    One thing that really annoys me about Radio 1 is the news presentation. Does anyone else think that the newsreaders seem to treat the listeners like 8 year olds? They have a very patronising style.

    It's personal taste but I highly, highly disagree. It has a knack of explaining complex stories in a way that makes them understandable and accessible, something the rest of the news forgets to do at times. Put it this way, while I listen to Radio 4 and watch the news, sometimes I find it handy to tune in and get the story from the beginning.
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    i need to back up dave here...

    Comedy Dave writes a lot of the show, all the parodies are written by him. Those pretend adverts with the guy with the low voice and the jingles with the choir are all written by him.

    Most of the things that make you laugh in the morning are probably written by dave. That's daves job a comedy writer if you like. He does some of the scripts (yes chris does have scripts in the morning).

    He's never been listed as a comedian so I don't understand why people are on here saying "oh dave doesnt make me laugh". His job is just to co-present, "comedy dave" was a name given to him ironically.
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    rad wrote: »
    One thing that really annoys me about Radio 1 is the news presentation. Does anyone else think that the newsreaders seem to treat the listeners like 8 year olds? They have a very patronising style.

    Totally disagree. Newsbeat is often brilliant at explaining extremely complicated stories in one or two lines; just how it should be. Bear in mind that it's targeting a teenage/early twenties audience too.

    Recent examples I've heard are the stories about the Pakistan cricket betting scam, Tony Blair's memoirs and the anniversary of Al Megrahi's release - all brilliantly written for an audience which might not always put news at the top of their wish list.

    I do think that some of the female newsreaders sound a bit young, and occasionally lack authority. But that can be addressed through good coaching and development over time.
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    Burstfire wrote: »
    i need to back up dave here...

    Comedy Dave writes a lot of the show, all the parodies are written by him. Those pretend adverts with the guy with the low voice and the jingles with the choir are all written by him.

    Most of the things that make you laugh in the morning are probably written by dave. That's daves job a comedy writer if you like. He does some of the scripts (yes chris does have scripts in the morning).

    He's never been listed as a comedian so I don't understand why people are on here saying "oh dave doesnt make me laugh". His job is just to co-present, "comedy dave" was a name given to him ironically.

    Fair enough, I wasn't aware the 'comedy' bit was meant ironically.

    I simply meant that I've been listening to the show for about 3 years...and he's never made me laugh or even raised a smile. But I agree he does create good chemistry with Chris.
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    Totally disagree. Newsbeat is often brilliant at explaining extremely complicated stories in one or two lines; just how it should be. Bear in mind that it's targeting a teenage/early twenties audience too.

    My son's 19 and his usual reaction to Newsbeat is a bemused chuckle. It can indeed handle serious stories very well, only to cross the line into The Day Today territory when the hapless presenter is given free rein to interview a reporter. Only the other day they played a serious interview, but with the responses being voiced by a BBC employee, which sounded uncannily like a Chris Morris spoof.
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    Abriel wrote: »
    Quite agree- It amazes me that when Dominic and the sport girl do the rob DJ quiz they clearly have less general knowledge than say Moyles or even Dave. What qualification do you need to be a newsreader?

    They both have journalism degrees I think! But as a general point (and I say this as somebody with a degree who works in a University) academic qualifications have no bearing on common sense or general knowledge.
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    They both have journalism degrees I think! But as a general point (and I say this as somebody with a degree who works in a University) academic qualifications have no bearing on common sense or general knowledge.

    I'm sure Dom left Uni after 3 weeks as he got offered work experience somewhere. So he doesn't have a degree at all.

    Tina does have a degree but I think it's in Computing (or part of it was) and not journalism.
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    Inkblot wrote: »
    My son's 19 and his usual reaction to Newsbeat is a bemused chuckle. It can indeed handle serious stories very well, only to cross the line into The Day Today territory when the hapless presenter is given free rein to interview a reporter. Only the other day they played a serious interview, but with the responses being voiced by a BBC employee, which sounded uncannily like a Chris Morris spoof.

    Interesting - what was the story?
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    JoshuaUK wrote: »
    1) Sara Cox is a very talented presenter and should have more air time.

    2) Fearne Cotton should be replaced - nobody I know seems to enjoy listening to her.

    3) Comedy Dave has never said ANYTHING funny. Fact.

    4) Scott Mills is great, but needs some help on his show - Chappers has left, his producer doesn't speak - it can feel empty at times.

    5) Reggie Yates, Huw & Edith Bowman are all pretty nondescript.

    6) The Chris Moyles show, whilst not perfect, remains a great listen to in the morning.

    Just some thoughts! Anyone agree with everything I've said?;)

    1. Sara Cox should have been sacked when she destroyed the breakfast show and the ratings plummeted, instead she was moved and she is still just as terrible on air.

    2. Cotton is ok

    3. I agree, Comedy Dave is a waste of space and such a bore to listen to.

    4. No. Mills is an asset to them.

    5. Agree

    6. Yes but he talks far too much. He needs to shut up and play some records in the morning. It is possible to do that and still do just as good a show.
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    They both have journalism degrees I think! But as a general point (and I say this as somebody with a degree who works in a University) academic qualifications have no bearing on common sense or general knowledge.

    Yes you can still be thick and have no common sense but still manage to pass Uni exams learning parrot fashion. Thats why the UK has no many unemployed grads they are useless, devoid of talent and life skills. I have worked with plenty of these idiots. Worse still that, they actually think they are owed a big wage despite being crap!
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    just listened to a small segment that sums up fearne cotton's show completely.

    she's just done a 'quiz' on air, with a young female caller who is apparently a member of the "McFly army", called 'which member of McFly are you most like?'.

    and she signed off by saying to the girl .. "mcfly army for-ev's .."

    really hammers home how they've got her in the wrong timeslot - i know they won't replace mills any time soon, but she really needs to be in a slot aimed at the younger demographic
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    JoshuaUK wrote: »
    1) Sara Cox is a very talented presenter and should have more air time.
    2) Fearne Cotton should be replaced - nobody I know seems to enjoy listening to her.
    3) Comedy Dave has never said ANYTHING funny. Fact.
    4) Scott Mills is great, but needs some help on his show - Chappers has left, his producer doesn't speak - it can feel empty at times.
    5) Reggie Yates, Huw & Edith Bowman are all pretty nondescript.
    6) The Chris Moyles show, whilst not perfect, remains a great listen to in the morning.

    Just some thoughts! Anyone agree with everything I've said?;)

    1) Totally
    2) Oh yes. She's a hideous, hideous presenter.
    3) I always thought his name was ironic... is it not supposed to be?
    4) Can be great. Becky has been fab, but it'd be good to have another person for him to bounce off
    5) Huw Stephens is excellent for the evening, but he really isn't a daytime presenter
    6) Agreed.
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    i know they won't replace mills any time soon, but she really needs to be in a slot aimed at the younger demographic

    Fearne Cotton is not suitable for that slot either, its for people driving home from work, which wouldn't work for her.

    Fact is, the kind of person who would tune into to listen to her in particular would find electricity a novelty, and trying to turn on the radio completely perplexing.
  • Ollie_h19Ollie_h19 Posts: 8,548
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    Martin_S wrote: »
    6. Yes but he talks far too much. He needs to shut up and play some records in the morning. It is possible to do that and still do just as good a show.

    No, it's not, the banter between the team is what makes the show. I mean, I like Vernon Kay but when he covers he plays too much music and so I turn off. Commercial stations/ iPods/ CD Players are for music.
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