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New proposals to jail internet trolls for 2 years.

HildaonplutoHildaonpluto Posts: 37,697
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29678989


We need a watertight definition of trolls for this to work rather than people objecting to people online who are forthright.
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    AdsAds Posts: 37,059
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    Half of DS will be locked up!
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    steveh31steveh31 Posts: 13,516
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    DS will go bust if trolls are locked up;-) then again do jails have internet access these days if they do the new law will be pointless.:p
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    franciefrancie Posts: 31,089
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    Ads wrote: »
    Half of DS will be locked up!

    Only half? ;-)
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    Phoenix LazarusPhoenix Lazarus Posts: 17,306
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    Hildaonpluto wrote: »
    http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29678989


    We need a watertight definition of trolls for this to work rather than people objecting to people online who are forthright.

    I suspect the law will offer one, because that what happens with laws, they are very precise in their wording. No act will include the word 'trolls', that is for sure.
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    Billy_ValueBilly_Value Posts: 22,920
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    trolls are not real they are things of myths
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    HildaonplutoHildaonpluto Posts: 37,697
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    Ads wrote: »
    Half of DS will be locked up!

    In all seriousness not really!I find such people to be in the minority-Now people who are mouthy rude gob****** theres more of them but their not the same as trolls imo.
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    Seth1Seth1 Posts: 676
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    how about a proposal to inform the govt that THE INTERNET IS NOT REAL LIFE
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    HildaonplutoHildaonpluto Posts: 37,697
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    Phoenix Lazarus wrote: »
    I suspect the law will offer one, because that what happens with laws, they are very precise in their wording. No act will include the word 'trolls', that is for sure.

    I hate that the media makes up its own definitions of trolls and pumps it out into wider society to be the accepted meaning.
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    Phoenix LazarusPhoenix Lazarus Posts: 17,306
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    Seth1 wrote: »
    how about a proposal to inform the govt that THE INTERNET IS NOT REAL LIFE

    The images & words it allows to be placed on your screen are, & so are the feelings of people who may be exposed to them.
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,531
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    Phoenix Lazarus wrote: »
    I suspect the law will offer one, because that what happens with laws, they are very precise in their wording. No act will include the word 'trolls', that is for sure.

    Absolutely. Trolling isn't necessarily abusive and most of it isn't going to fall foul of any law, so they won't be able to call it that in the legislation. DS will not, therefore, die from an absence of trolling!
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    Seth1Seth1 Posts: 676
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    Phoenix Lazarus wrote: »
    The images & words it allows to be placed on your screen are, & so are the feelings of people who may be exposed to them.

    then they should know that it is not necessarily directed at them
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    plateletplatelet Posts: 26,386
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    My reading of this is it's just a proposal to increase the sentences under the existing Malicious Communications Act
    Those who subject others to sexually offensive, verbally abusive or threatening material online are currently prosecuted in magistrates' courts under the Malicious Communications Act, with a maximum prison sentence of six months.

    More serious cases could go to crown court under the proposals, where the maximum sentence would be extended.
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    So I can burgle peoples homes and get community service.But if I go on the internet and spout a load of drunken crap i'll get locked up?.:confused:
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 410
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    Seth1 wrote: »
    how about a proposal to inform the govt that THE INTERNET IS NOT REAL LIFE

    Sounds like someone's working on his defence already...
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    Phoenix LazarusPhoenix Lazarus Posts: 17,306
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    Seth1 wrote: »
    then they should know that it is not necessarily directed at them

    It is the cases where someone specific is being targeted that are under consideration.
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    Dr. ClawDr. Claw Posts: 7,375
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    this is when other western countries laugh at these so called freedom of speech laws here in the uk compared to their countries. this is a time when we need freedoms protected, not strangled. heck its already being abused by authorities locking people up for non credible threats on twitter etc :kitty:
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    Seth1Seth1 Posts: 676
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    Phoenix Lazarus wrote: »
    The images & words it allows to be placed on your screen are, & so are the feelings of people who may be exposed to them.

    and anyway, images and words count for nothing, its the substance that is relevant
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    tghe-retfordtghe-retford Posts: 26,449
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    Dr. Claw wrote: »
    ...heck its already being abused by authorities locking people up for non credible threats on twitter etc :kitty:
    People are already abusing the report abuse button on Twitter by reporting disagreements in a debate as harassment and abuse. Its simply censorship of a viewpoint the reportee disagrees with.
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    jclock66jclock66 Posts: 2,411
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    U96 wrote: »
    So I can burgle peoples homes and get community service.But if I go on the internet and spout a load of drunken crap i'll get locked up?.:confused:

    Precisely.

    Give someone a good kicking on a Saturday night and get a slap on the wrists but call someone a few names online and they'll bang you up for two years.

    This country is crazy.
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    Phoenix LazarusPhoenix Lazarus Posts: 17,306
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    Seth1 wrote: »
    and anyway, images and words count for nothing, its the substance that is relevant

    Which would consist of what was shown (images), what was said (words) & to whom-so your point is...?
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    trevvytrev21trevvytrev21 Posts: 16,973
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    It's almost impossible not to troll DS lately though :(

    Silly pop stars get hundreds of abusive tweets a day. Should we prosecute all the assailants?
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    LockesLockes Posts: 6,568
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    Typical reaction to a moral panic
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    Seth1Seth1 Posts: 676
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    Phoenix Lazarus wrote: »
    Which would consist of what was shown (images), what was said (words) & to whom-so your point is...?

    no no no, images may be shown, words may be said, but its not what they are.
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    U96U96 Posts: 13,937
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    Dr. Claw wrote: »
    this is when other western countries laugh at these so called freedom of speech laws here in the uk compared to their countries. this is a time when we need freedoms protected, not strangled. heck its already being abused by authorities locking people up for non credible threats on twitter etc :kitty:

    They say the problem with the internet is.It's come so far,so fast.That regulation/law just hasn't kept pace.It's an out of control monster.Hence the over the top regulations coming into play ref Trolls.
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    Phoenix LazarusPhoenix Lazarus Posts: 17,306
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    U96 wrote: »
    They say the problem with the internet is.It's come so far,so fast.That regulation/law just hasn't kept pace.It's an out of control monster.Hence the over the top regulations coming into play ref Trolls.

    It's in its Wild West days. History will look back on us as pioneers & cowboys.
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