There is no suggestion that they will disable any TP software. Even if they did, it would not render W8 unusable.
So many people just scaremongering in the hope that MS will bend completely for them. Which, of course, they are not going to.
Its a fact though if you use freeware third party software there is always a chance is may stop working at some point after an OS patch and it may not get fixed because the developer no longer bothers with it.
I couldn't care less what MS do or not, there are always alternatives but I work in the software industry and I think its inevitable that MS will have to fix up windows 8 to make it palatable to their business customers as it really has had a lukewarm reception.
Oh the drama. Nothing says click me like a huge square button on a start screen named Excel. Start screen with necessary applications set right on the left hand side actually simplify things imo.
*puts on childish voice* "Ooh, let's see what's behind the GREEN tile!" :rolleyes::p The W8 tiles remind me of some kiddies educational game I played on Windows 95/98 years ago.
Actually I'm a girl, but that doesn't mean I can't be a tech nerd I'm the family computer expert.
*puts on childish voice* "Ooh, let's see what's behind the GREEN tile!" :rolleyes::p The W8 tiles remind me of some kiddies educational game I played on Windows 95/98 years ago.
Have you actually ever used Windows 8? Because I just keep seeing you repeating the same phrase over and over again, and as a regular user of the OS myself, it doesn't seem to correlate with the reality.
There is a lot more to the live tiles other than the fact that they are different colours.
Have you actually ever used Windows 8? Because I just keep seeing you repeating the same phrase over and over again, and as a regular user of the OS myself, it doesn't seem to correlate with the reality.
There is a lot more to the live tiles other than the fact that they are different colours.
I have used Windows 8 on friends' computers and in computer stores and I've hated it ever since I first saw it in action. It looks dreadful and the live tiles are a gimmick.
Actually I'm a girl, but that doesn't mean I can't be a tech nerd I'm the family computer expert.
*puts on childish voice* "Ooh, let's see what's behind the GREEN tile!" :rolleyes::p The W8 tiles remind me of some kiddies educational game I played on Windows 95/98 years ago.
Apologies for the gender error. However, you have demonstrated your total ignorance of W8 and have lost all real credibility in the discussion.
Shame your family have to rely on only half the story........
I have used Windows 8 on friends' computers and in computer stores and I've hated it ever since I first saw it in action. It looks dreadful and the live tiles are a gimmick.
I'm not sure how you can come to that conclusion considering you've only had such fleeting encounters with the OS. I think the true motive behind this thread is emerging, and I don't think it's because you want to discuss Windows 8.1 constructively.
I'm not sure how you can come to that conclusion considering you've only had such fleeting encounters with the OS. I think the true motive behind this thread is emerging, and I don't think it's because you want to discuss Windows 8.1 constructively.
Huh?, I started it .not cnbcwatcher. I have Vista. I have no axe to grind either way.
Maybe you guys could take you disagreement to PM, its not really helping much here..thanks for your opinions though.
Nothing wrong with the interface - it's different but once you get used to it you'll find you're just as productive, if not more, than when using Windows 7. General performance is faster, and being newer it is more future proof.
I currently am using Vista on my PC. It's working fine, no complaints, except Vista doesn't support html 5, which I have a need for.
So, I'm thinking of upgrading, but aren't sure whether to get windows 7 or 8. I've heard quite bad things about 8 and it's interface, but I understand you can get software to restore the classic windows interface,
Any of you folks got thoughts on this?.
I use my PC for gaming, fractal generation and internet browsing at home. It's quite a high spec one.
Thanks
This youtube review sums it up for me. If they can fix the schizophrenic nature so you don't have to use metro or modern UI there are some benefits. That why I would say wait to see what's in 8.1
This youtube review sums it up for me. If they can fix the schizophrenic nature so you don't have to use metro or modern UI there are some benefits. That why I would say wait to see what's in 8.1
Those two were pretty thick in the search process eh?
You don't have to use or see metro/modern UI.
I think that people who are buying a new PC should go with W8. Install a TP Start button/menu and then actually use W8 as they find out how to use it..
They may move to W8 Completely as they find their way around. Or, they may stay with boot to desktop for ever (or as long as the desktop survives ). The third option would be to use a hybrid system combining both, which works really well.
At least then they won't be reading what someone else is reposting from something they read once upon a time on the internet.
The whole thing is a personal preference and to advise someone not to use it, just because you don't like it, is wrong advice IMO.
I think its inevitable that MS will have to fix up windows 8 to make it palatable to their business customers as it really has had a lukewarm reception.
Money will talk in the end. If they see declining revenues and profits then they will change, otherwise they may change.
They're not totally stubborn though. The recently released Visual Studio 2012 accommodated many changes due to fierce user feedback in the preview versions. But then developers are their most important customers in the long run so they have to keep them happy.
Those two were pretty thick in the search process eh?
You don't have to use or see metro/modern UI.
I think that people who are buying a new PC should go with W8. Install a TP Start button/menu and then actually use W8 as they find out how to use it..
They may move to W8 Completely as they find their way around. Or, they may stay with boot to desktop for ever (or as long as the desktop survives ). The third option would be to use a hybrid system combining both, which works really well.
At least then they won't be reading what someone else is reposting from something they read once upon a time on the internet.
The whole thing is a personal preference and to advise someone not to use it, just because you don't like it, is wrong advice IMO.
My advice is my personal opinion which the OP can take or leave. Im sure they can make up their own mind.
It seems you have some kind of weird issue with people who don't think windows 8 is the greatest thing since sliced bread !
Anyhow some one posted a solution for the OP to enable them to run html 5 and if that works then there is no need for them to upgrade at all
My advice is my personal opinion which the OP can take or leave. Im sure they can make up their own mind.
It seems you have some kind of weird issue with people who don't think windows 8 is the greatest thing since sliced bread !
Anyhow some one posted a solution for the OP to enable them to run html 5 and if that works then there is no need for them to upgrade at all
Calm down dear.....The 'you' in the post was a generic you....not aimed at you specifically, perhaps I should have substituted 'one'....
I don't care if someone chooses to use it or leave it any more than I care about those still running XP. So no issues with people who don't like it.
As I said it's a personal preference and each will choose which way to go eventually.
I do have a weird issue with bad advice however and wouldn't advise someone to avoid something based purely on a personal dislike. As you say, it's my opinion and the OP can take or leave it.
I haven't seen one really good reason given for avoiding W8 on a personal computer.
Calm down dear.....The 'you' in the post was a generic you....not aimed at you specifically, perhaps I should have substituted 'one'....
I don't care if someone chooses to use it or leave it any more than I care about those still running XP. So no issues with people who don't like it.
As I said it's a personal preference and each will choose which way to go eventually.
I do have a weird issue with bad advice however and wouldn't advise someone to avoid something based purely on a personal dislike. As you say, it's my opinion and the OP can take or leave it.
I haven't seen one really good reason given for avoiding W8 on a personal computer.
And I've seen many reasons why W8 is a bad idea for a desktop PC.
Anyhow I'm perfectly calm. but what worries me is that the CEO of Microsoft seems less than calm. Can a man who behaves like this in public really be making sane decisions?
Money will talk in the end. If they see declining revenues and profits then they will change, otherwise they may change.
They're not totally stubborn though. The recently released Visual Studio 2012 accommodated many changes due to fierce user feedback in the preview versions. But then developers are their most important customers in the long run so they have to keep them happy.
I'm going to have to look at that soon. Are the menus still capitalised ? I know there is a registry hack to fix that but would be nice to have a proper setting to disable it.
I can't understand the logic behind developers being the most important customer, I'd say that goes to business users and possibly IT managers who may decide between say linux or windows to use for their servers.
And I've seen many reasons why W8 is a bad idea for a desktop PC.
Anyhow I'm perfectly calm. but what worries me is that the CEO of Microsoft seems less than calm. Can a man who behaves like this in public really be making sane decisions?
Ahaaaahahaha what the hell was that all about lol. His boobs were going crazy when he was bouncing about on the stage.:D
I'm going to have to look at that soon. Are the menus still capitalised ? I know there is a registry hack to fix that but would be nice to have a proper setting to disable it.
That's one of the features they didn't given in on. So, still requires registry hack or I think there's an extension that does it.
However, in one of their posts, MS did say they'd provide an official way to disable them but haven't done so yet.
I've actually decided to stick with the all caps and I'm used to them now. Plus I figured that it's a general trend in MS's world. (I discovered yesterday that the new Foxit Reader has all caps as well, plus ribbon. But they've provided an option to revert to "classic.")
I can't understand the logic behind developers being the most important customer, I'd say that goes to business users and possibly IT managers who may decide between say linux or windows to use for their servers.
That's why I added "in the long run." By this I mean if developers start drifting away from writing for Windows then the apps will dwindle and the value of Windows to the enterprise will decline.
Windows is on ~90% of desktops. It will take a lot of drifting before a big enough market will be created for any alternatives for developers to consider.
I'm not sure how you can come to that conclusion considering you've only had such fleeting encounters with the OS. I think the true motive behind this thread is emerging, and I don't think it's because you want to discuss Windows 8.1 constructively.
Wrong thread! This one is someone asking whether they should get Windows 7 or 8. I was just stating my opinion.
Apologies for the gender error. However, you have demonstrated your total ignorance of W8 and have lost all real credibility in the discussion.
Shame your family have to rely on only half the story........
My family don't like W8 either and they're both glad they managed to get W7 laptops as that's what they wanted. They were using XP before. I'm the only Mac user in a family of Windows users, so I probably stick out.
BTW Is Windows 8 64bit? Or does it come in both like Win 7 does?
It comes in both flavours.
The 32 bit version won't install on all the same hardware as Windows 7 though, due to the NX bit issue (only affects some older motherboards and CPUs).
The 32 bit version won't install on all the same hardware as Windows 7 though, due to the NX bit issue (only affects some older motherboards and CPUs).
I'm thinking of buying a new laptop but not keen on Win 8, which most seem to come preinstalled with.
How can I tell whether they have the 32bit version or the 64bit version?
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Its a fact though if you use freeware third party software there is always a chance is may stop working at some point after an OS patch and it may not get fixed because the developer no longer bothers with it.
I couldn't care less what MS do or not, there are always alternatives but I work in the software industry and I think its inevitable that MS will have to fix up windows 8 to make it palatable to their business customers as it really has had a lukewarm reception.
Actually I'm a girl, but that doesn't mean I can't be a tech nerd I'm the family computer expert.
*puts on childish voice* "Ooh, let's see what's behind the GREEN tile!" :rolleyes::p The W8 tiles remind me of some kiddies educational game I played on Windows 95/98 years ago.
Have you actually ever used Windows 8? Because I just keep seeing you repeating the same phrase over and over again, and as a regular user of the OS myself, it doesn't seem to correlate with the reality.
There is a lot more to the live tiles other than the fact that they are different colours.
I have used Windows 8 on friends' computers and in computer stores and I've hated it ever since I first saw it in action. It looks dreadful and the live tiles are a gimmick.
Apologies for the gender error. However, you have demonstrated your total ignorance of W8 and have lost all real credibility in the discussion.
Shame your family have to rely on only half the story........
I'm not sure how you can come to that conclusion considering you've only had such fleeting encounters with the OS. I think the true motive behind this thread is emerging, and I don't think it's because you want to discuss Windows 8.1 constructively.
Maybe you guys could take you disagreement to PM, its not really helping much here..thanks for your opinions though.
Nothing wrong with the interface - it's different but once you get used to it you'll find you're just as productive, if not more, than when using Windows 7. General performance is faster, and being newer it is more future proof.
This youtube review sums it up for me. If they can fix the schizophrenic nature so you don't have to use metro or modern UI there are some benefits. That why I would say wait to see what's in 8.1
You don't have to use or see metro/modern UI.
I think that people who are buying a new PC should go with W8. Install a TP Start button/menu and then actually use W8 as they find out how to use it..
They may move to W8 Completely as they find their way around. Or, they may stay with boot to desktop for ever (or as long as the desktop survives ). The third option would be to use a hybrid system combining both, which works really well.
At least then they won't be reading what someone else is reposting from something they read once upon a time on the internet.
The whole thing is a personal preference and to advise someone not to use it, just because you don't like it, is wrong advice IMO.
As long as 7 isn't locked out of advances in other software, then 8 will continue to flounder in terms of actual use.
The general replacement cycle of failed kit will drive the take up as the options to the general public are restricted to seeking out Win 7.
However, it would seem that necessary replacement rather than simple upgrading would be the driver with the economy still flat.
Toys that don't play in the MS garden appear to be attracting the free spend of those lucky enough to have it.
Money will talk in the end. If they see declining revenues and profits then they will change, otherwise they may change.
They're not totally stubborn though. The recently released Visual Studio 2012 accommodated many changes due to fierce user feedback in the preview versions. But then developers are their most important customers in the long run so they have to keep them happy.
My advice is my personal opinion which the OP can take or leave. Im sure they can make up their own mind.
It seems you have some kind of weird issue with people who don't think windows 8 is the greatest thing since sliced bread !
Anyhow some one posted a solution for the OP to enable them to run html 5 and if that works then there is no need for them to upgrade at all
Indeed. I've installed it, but I don't use it. I use Firefox.
Calm down dear.....The 'you' in the post was a generic you....not aimed at you specifically, perhaps I should have substituted 'one'....
I don't care if someone chooses to use it or leave it any more than I care about those still running XP. So no issues with people who don't like it.
As I said it's a personal preference and each will choose which way to go eventually.
I do have a weird issue with bad advice however and wouldn't advise someone to avoid something based purely on a personal dislike. As you say, it's my opinion and the OP can take or leave it.
I haven't seen one really good reason given for avoiding W8 on a personal computer.
And I've seen many reasons why W8 is a bad idea for a desktop PC.
Anyhow I'm perfectly calm. but what worries me is that the CEO of Microsoft seems less than calm. Can a man who behaves like this in public really be making sane decisions?
I'm going to have to look at that soon. Are the menus still capitalised ? I know there is a registry hack to fix that but would be nice to have a proper setting to disable it.
I can't understand the logic behind developers being the most important customer, I'd say that goes to business users and possibly IT managers who may decide between say linux or windows to use for their servers.
Ahaaaahahaha what the hell was that all about lol. His boobs were going crazy when he was bouncing about on the stage.:D
That's one of the features they didn't given in on. So, still requires registry hack or I think there's an extension that does it.
However, in one of their posts, MS did say they'd provide an official way to disable them but haven't done so yet.
I've actually decided to stick with the all caps and I'm used to them now. Plus I figured that it's a general trend in MS's world. (I discovered yesterday that the new Foxit Reader has all caps as well, plus ribbon. But they've provided an option to revert to "classic.")
That's why I added "in the long run." By this I mean if developers start drifting away from writing for Windows then the apps will dwindle and the value of Windows to the enterprise will decline.
Wrong thread! This one is someone asking whether they should get Windows 7 or 8. I was just stating my opinion.
My family don't like W8 either and they're both glad they managed to get W7 laptops as that's what they wanted. They were using XP before. I'm the only Mac user in a family of Windows users, so I probably stick out.
Get rid of Metro, or at least make it an add on.
It comes in both flavours.
The 32 bit version won't install on all the same hardware as Windows 7 though, due to the NX bit issue (only affects some older motherboards and CPUs).
I'm thinking of buying a new laptop but not keen on Win 8, which most seem to come preinstalled with.
How can I tell whether they have the 32bit version or the 64bit version?