Perez Katie H Calum ALL guilty
Forum Member
✭✭✭
Katie Hopkins started the row. Calum told Perez to shut up and made a threatening physical lunge and Perez said a disgusting thing.
They all had a part to play in the events. No-one is more or less guilty then the other. They are all equally culpable.
Time to stop cherry picking the guilty parties to try and limitate the guilt of the ones you like.
They all had a part to play in the events. No-one is more or less guilty then the other. They are all equally culpable.
Time to stop cherry picking the guilty parties to try and limitate the guilt of the ones you like.
0
Comments
Nadia is getting the blame cos she dare to say on BBOTS that KH started that whole sequence of arguments
Accurate and fair summary, with the addition of C. called P. a 'D' first !
How dare she speak the truth.
Only Perez is Guilty, He's the only one that crossed the line..
Hence the warning..
Provocation isn't an excuse..
Spot on!
Yeah, push and bully someone for years on end and when they snap and wallop the abuser round the head with a frying pan, that's rolled out; "Provocation isn't an excuse"
Sorry - I beg to differ!
Are you saying Calum's physical aggressive lunge was not crossing the line either.
And as I said they all played a part. Because one may be deemed more offensive does not make any of the other actions excusable.
What Perez did was wrong and he has the power over his own mouth
What Calum did was wrong and he has the power to not violently react
What Katie H did was wrong and she has the power to not stir
Absolutely. I'm going to try to ignore those threads apportioning blame to just one of them.
I agree 100%
Perez is an obnoxious blob but Katie is a mean, nasty and manipulate bully. And Calum uses his physical size to intimidate. Kav is a sheep. He knows what Katie is doing to Perez AND Keith is bad but he is too cowardly to step up.
Hopkins started the row with Keith, that happened in the bedroom away from Calum and Perez...that much is true.
But she didn't start the argument Between Perez and Calum.
Only what Perez did is against the Rules.
Did not notice Calum's physical aggressive, if he did do it, it was insignificant, as I did not Notice it,..
It was an excuse used with regularity on here for Alexander's use of homophobic language.
I agree with the OP - no one of Calum, Perez or Katie H came out of that well - but somehow Nadia comes off worst on here
Lots of double standards and hypocrisy.
Well no, Nadia claimed that the whole thing was KH's fault...which of course was wrong.
KH in no way had anything to do with Perez kicking off at Calum.
No one is responcability but parez he is a grown man he has to take responcability for his own action and anything that comes out of his mouth it's crazy to blame anyone else
It's what came out of parez,s mouth that was the problem for that he is responcability for not others
I disagree, Hopkins started the argument and Keith was relaying what had happened when Calum became aggressive towards Perez, she started the whole thing as usual, we have heard many of them now say how she just looks to cause trouble, she stalks people in there apparently.
What Perez said was wrong and unfortunate, had he just said ''oh go stick it up your ass'' it would have been fine but he didn't and he deserved his warning.
They were all calmly sat in the kitchen talking about Kav being drunk and how he behaves, then KH stormed off into the bedroom displeased with something Keith said (it wasn't that bad really) and Keith followed her into the bedroom and they had words.
Later Perez starts slagging KH off to his body guard (Nadia) and Calum tries to get Perez to stop hyping up the dispute between Keith and KH...then Perez said he wont be shut up blah blah blah, and then both got angry with Calum calling Perez a dick, then Prerez said he will be a huge dick (as if we didn't already know) and that he'll shove it up Calum's rectal area...understandably Calum wasn't best please with that and had to be retrained by Cami and KH.
And somehow the KH dislikers say it's all her fault. lol