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We have to start an online revolution
candyfloss2000
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I believe that the time for being anonymous online is over. I believe the harm outweighs the benefit. Believe me, I, like many of you, have enjoyed the freedom of being anonymous online, but i know think it's outdated. It is creating a world of harm and It's not just the minority who use it to exploit people, it's also encouraging the idea that we are not accountable to the things we say online. Any moral society will have to ask itself, what is the value of this? Personally, I no longer see any value in an online world where people can post anonymously. I think we need a total overhaul, where we re-install the idea that people are accountable for the things the say. Words are not just something we can throw around. We should be justifying everything we say. If we want to speak flippantly...we should do it with our in real life friends.....where we can resolve things quickly. Online....words stay....and they can affect people in a disproportionate way to how they would in a real life conversation between people.
We have to make a change.
We have to make a change.
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apart from it being ridiculous and impossible to police it`s a stalker`s dream.
There are benefits to being anonymous. It makes life a little more difficult for this kind of pathetic scumbag.
Start us off then. What's your full name and address?
David Davidson
9001 Mudkip Avenue
Viridian City.
I will not give you my name and address. That's the point. Only truly brave people who don't care what people think of them in real life will post online.
I do. So I won't post online anymore if those are the rules. Kind of like being a celebrity; only try hards who want to be famous will then come online. Normal people, like, most of us here, will avoid it, because we're too conscious of the effect it may have on people in our real lives. IE. My point being...anonymous online life has to end sometime, and I hope to god it's sooner than later.
I use an anonymous site...it's a very supportive place, with very lovely people....It helps me a lot in my life...but I will give that up if it means we can clean up the crap that we have online generally.
You can't pretend that there aren't really horrible people online, exploiting and abusing people in a way they couldn't and wouldn't even do so in real life.....
I'm not defending victims......I'm saying we need to target the perpetrators. I believe this. I believe the internet is the new bastion of human waste. I, like many people I hope, will not stand for what I see on a daily basis. It's not about just protecting our children, I have none, It's about standing up for what is right.
If you attempt to force people to provide their full identity online, it'll be the online equivalent of a Police state and ID card regime and the likes of Liberty will be suing the Government that introduces it.
Google has tried to get people to use real names on YouTube to curb abuse. The fact its not mandatory and people are complaining en masse at being constantly persuaded to do so should say something. Even then, it's easily circumvented with VPN's and TOR.
And people who can afford good lawyers.
Nope. Strongly disagree.
I doubt id be as honest about my mistakes if there wasnt some element of anonymity - I'd be scared about getting hate mail, getting labelled and employers reading things, that sort
of thing. I'm ashamed about certain things (nothing major i guess, nothing criminal on my part) but I don't believe im a bad person and being able to talk through pm's etc to people elsewhere, helps. Its hard to explain.
Also, I believe Tim Berners-Lee (sp?) said the internet/WWW
was always meant to be anomyous. We should chase those who abuse it but maintain the ability to be anonymous.
Why should we all have to be restricted and lose our anonymity due to the acts of a minority, because of some, not all?.
No only stupid people would post their full name and address online.
posting too much personal information online can lead to all sorts of things. It leaves you wide open to identity theft. I remember years ago when Facebook started becoming popular people had their date of birth, address and phone number displayed in their profile all the information someone needed to do identity fraud. They would also post that they were out that weekend, letting everyone know that their house was empty and publicly displaying their address in their profile.
For people in the showbiz forum...hahaha, i hope they can survive without their inane bitching about inane celebrities.....
15 years ago there were 70 million people online so I am not sure how that was doing fine without the internet. The internet is over 30 years old and today our economy and infrastructure is almost completely reliant on the internet. Take it away and we have no telephones, banking or food transit network.
Yeah, we're listening. We just disagree.
Ditto the above. Also we can see hypocrisy a mile off.
We did?
Also I disagree that the internet is in its infancy - we're already on Web 2.0, from what I understand. There have been alot of changes relating to the internet since the 90s - I remember when people had personal webpages, guestbooks and webrings were all the rage, chat rooms were the 'big thing' and social networks didn't exist.
If you think there's no point in posting online then why are you posting here? thats like forum members (not necessarily here but certainly elsewhere) who point their finger at others and call them lame/sad/pathetic or whatever and claim their wasting their life away and need to go offline and somehow 'get a life', yet they'd bothered to go online, log on to the website/forum, find, read and reply to the post to say as such. If its so lame to read and reply to messages online then their guilty themselves.
I am very happy to post anonymously, and like the vast majority of people I have never knowingly abused this situation.
The minority that do abuse the situation can be prosecuted, leave the rest of us in peace.
Suspect people in Iran, North Korea, various states in the middle east ..... might disagree with you there.
Besides, true anonymity is actually very rare. The vast majority of things you do online leave some sort of trace/trail that can be traced back to you if the powers that be really want to. Even if you use something like TOR, if you don't have it set up exactly right, you can still be backtraced.
I also agree with Ben_Copland. Who gives a toss what some anonymous bell-end on the internet has to say. Their opinion means nothing to me.
Oh, and also .... the LAST place you want to try and start a crusade like you're afer is on the internet! They'll be the community most vehemently against it! You may have more luck at your local Conservative office or WI meeting ....
should people also be required to display their full name and address, phone number and email address on their person so it's clearly legible to anyone they pass by, come into contact with, speak to or listen during the day?
or maybe we could just make them wear a little armband with a logo and a chip inside so we can ID people?
all them people walking about the streets, in pubs, clubs, shops, football matches, workplaces, and i can't tell who they are
surely the harm of people being tracked down and persecuted will outweigh the benefits?
The internet is not in it's infancy and 15 years ago most people had the internet even if it was just the dial-up type. ADSL and Broadband are also over 10 years old. Our first internet we had to plug into the phone socket and hope that no one picked the phone up and tried to make a call, you could hear the modem dial up and if you picked up the phone you heard a screeching sound. It took a week to download one song (well it felt like a week anyway).
You can't take people's right away, fascist!