I don't have kids, it's not up to me to make any effort in order so that parents can shirk their responsibilities and pass the buck to the government.
Irrelevant. You are behaving as if you are being put through some great hardship, yet describe what you expect parents to do as "a little effort", when the effort expected from you is tiny in comparison.
Why are you so concerned about something which would take such a tiny effort?
No they are not they are stating that the internet should have porn readily available at the click of a button without any restrictions on who views it, because if a parent has to be sat by a child who is on the computer because of what is readily available to anyone it is basically an adult service.
I'm saying that the internet should stay as it is and parents should take some responsibility for their kids instead of expecting everyone else to. Do you let your child have free reign over the TV or do you check what they are watching? How about when they borrow a DVD from a friend?
No they are not they are stating that the internet should have porn readily available at the click of a button without any restrictions on who views it, because if a parent has to be sat by a child who is on the computer because of what is readily available to anyone it is basically an adult service.
And what is wrong with that? [Most] Porn isn't illegal in this country so why shouldn't it be readily available through a variety of media channels?
What is it about the internet that you are so against? Are you scared of it?
I've watched porn since i was 13 perfectly natural,hasn't done any harm. Am 18 now and no offence but a kid isn't going to be scarred for life if they see a video of a perfectly natural activity !
When I have kids obviously ill moniter internet use but for things such as paedophillia etc if its porn then i'll think nothing of it.
So really what a retarded idea. The government should have more to deal with than this.
Oh wait i forgot they want to eliminate every type of fun that people can have in this country my mistake, so sex next !
Irrelevant. You are behaving as if you are being put through some great hardship, yet describe what you expect parents to do as "a little effort", when the effort expected from you is tiny in comparison.
Why are you so concerned about something which would take such a tiny effort?
Again, this is only a small thing, but it's the Conservatives way of trying out Internet Regulation, they want to adopt the China method in the UK.
Look up the articles, they've already admitted thet Content Control and Internet Regulation is a thing they want and spouted crap like "It'll be good for the Economy and Good for the People!"
People wake up, it's sad to see soo many people actually saying this is a good idea nd they support it, this is just a foot note into them getting full control over the traffic in the UK!
Seems like a good idea to me....it's protecting at source and still allowing those who are into porn (so long as they are the bill payer) to access it...what's a few extra clicks for those who want it?
Irrelevant. You are behaving as if you are being put through some great hardship, yet describe what you expect parents to do as "a little effort", when the effort expected from you is tiny in comparison.
Why are you so concerned about something which would take such a tiny effort?
And children will still see it if you refuse to monitor what they watch. Porn comes on CDs and usb sticks too.
Irrelevant. You are behaving as if you are being put through some great hardship, yet describe what you expect parents to do as "a little effort", when the effort expected from you is tiny in comparison.
Why are you so concerned about something which would take such a tiny effort?
First of all we don't know what kind of hardship I might be put through. Second of all, if you've got kids, guess what it's going to be hard work but it's up to YOU not ME or the government to look after your kids so it's going to be necessary.
And I am concerned because of what this represents, I am being asked to curtail my freedoms for no good reason. Even if the effort is minimal it is effort that I should not be required to make.
Seems like a good idea to me....it's protecting at source and still allowing those who are into porn (so long as they are the bill payer) to access it...what's a few extra clicks for those who want it?
It's comments like this that are just sad to see, they've tricked you, you think they want to protect kids? They want to control internet traffic and regulate it in the UK, selling high speeds and access to big corporations bidding and user created websites getting shafted and blocked.
Again, this is only a small thing, but it's the Conservatives way of trying out Internet Regulation, they want to adopt the China method in the UK.
Look up the articles, they've already admitted thet Content Control and Internet Regulation is a thing they want and spouted crap like "It'll be good for the Economy and Good for the People!"
People wake up, it's sad to see soo many people actually saying this is a good idea nd they support it, this is just a foot note into them getting full control over the traffic in the UK!
In this country, as long as you say 'protecting children' you can basically do what you want. In other countries it's 'what God says'. Every country has it's Achilles heel.
In this country, as long as you say 'protecting children' you can basically do what you want. In other countries it's 'what God says'. Every country has it's Achilles heel.
True - I can't remember exactly what the headline was on the Sunday Telegraph yesterday but it was something like:
How exactly are they going to go about this, anyway? Is this like a national net nanny?
What's stopping porn websites from not declaring themselves? What's stopping new websites from disguising? And what about obscure fetish porn that doesn't look like porn in the classic sense, but is? Are they also going to ban videos of, say, people stepping on balloons that were intended to be erotic even though the vast majority of viewers won't see it like that?
Got to bear in mind though that is is a) clearly still just at 'idea' level- it probably won't actually happen, and b) the main newspapers don't appear to have seen it as important enough to run with yet. It isn't like this is some imminent thing.
And what is wrong with that? [Most] Porn isn't illegal in this country so why shouldn't it be readily available through a variety of media channels?
What is it about the internet that you are so against? Are you scared of it?
I don't have anything against the internet I think it is a great tool but I think it should be for all to use without the monitoring for children. Adult material should be accessed by those wishing to view it. and not the other way around.
I'm saying that the internet should stay as it is and parents should take some responsibility for their kids instead of expecting everyone else to. Do you let your child have free reign over the TV or do you check what they are watching? How about when they borrow a DVD from a friend?
What about parents who've not got a clue of how to block sites in the browser? Ssaying this though, all the child would have to do is "search for something" aand they'd likely find exactly what they were looking for.
What about parents who've not got a clue of how to block sites in the browser? Ssaying this though, all the child would have to do is "search for something" aand they'd likely find exactly what they were looking for.
Then they should learn. Or only let their kids use the net when they are present.
I thought most of those more explicit web sites had a warning page and you had to click to enter..... or so a friend of mine told me
Is that not the case? If they are displaying a warning page before you enter then surely that is the point at which adults and teenagers alike should take responsibility.
Where is all this other unrestricted porn littered everywhere. I never come across things like that
I know there isn't any on the Linux Distro web site because I've been all through there.
I bet this Tory crackpot, Claire Perry has never even been to any of these web sites. She admits she has little grasp of the Internet, and yet she wants to start telling everyone else how it should be controlled. Is she just a front person for totalitarian rule? The Tories aren't even going to get back in power again for decades. Every day they come out with some brainless idea even worse than their last one. Most of their female MPs are modelled on Sarah Palin politics, and most of the blokes are some sort of hideous cross between Kevin and Perry, or Dumb and Dumber. :eek:
It's comments like this that are just sad to see, they've tricked you, you think they want to protect kids? They want to control internet traffic and regulate it in the UK, selling high speeds and access to big corporations bidding and user created websites getting shafted and blocked.
User created? You mean home grown porn. So what?
In schools, the filters are probably better than most parents could do at home...and porn still slips through and you get the kids viewing things they shouldn't....I am all for this...nothing to stop you watching porn is there?
First of all we don't know what kind of hardship I might be put through. Second of all, if you've got kids, guess what it's going to be hard work but it's up to YOU not ME or the government to look after your kids so it's going to be necessary.
And I am concerned because of what this represents, I am being asked to curtail my freedoms for no good reason. Even if the effort is minimal it is effort that I should not be required to make.
So why should the parents be required to make the effort on what should be a service for all to use? As a single man why should you be required to make no effort? Unless of course you see it as an adult service.
I don't have anything against the internet I think it is a great tool but I think it should be for all to use without the monitoring for children. Adult material should be accessed by those wishing to view it. and not the other way around.
But you do have something against the internet in relation to porn. Do you feel the same about all other broadcast channels? How do you feel about satellite TV?
Apart from the billion porn sites that get put up every day, there's forums, chat rooms, MSN, file sharing, mobile phones, ipad, and a whole load of other way for kids to see porn. Trying to block it is like holding back the tide.
Lazy parents need to do more parenting and stop expecting some magic solutions.
I'm not worried about the porn. It's the control in place that worries me and the precedent of having to basically ask the government permission to access internet sites. Porn is only the method they're using to implement it.
This comes soon after the wikileaks saga, but still people seem unconcerned.
So why should the parents be required to make the effort on what should be a service for all to use? As a single man why should you be required to make no effort?
Because they have the kids and I don't. I don't have any responsibility in relation to how someone else brings up their kids nor should I have. It is up to the parents, not me. If they want to restrict what their kids view on the net then they should do that but they should not also have the right to complicate what I get to view on the net at the same time.
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Irrelevant. You are behaving as if you are being put through some great hardship, yet describe what you expect parents to do as "a little effort", when the effort expected from you is tiny in comparison.
Why are you so concerned about something which would take such a tiny effort?
I'm saying that the internet should stay as it is and parents should take some responsibility for their kids instead of expecting everyone else to. Do you let your child have free reign over the TV or do you check what they are watching? How about when they borrow a DVD from a friend?
And what is wrong with that? [Most] Porn isn't illegal in this country so why shouldn't it be readily available through a variety of media channels?
What is it about the internet that you are so against? Are you scared of it?
I've watched porn since i was 13 perfectly natural,hasn't done any harm. Am 18 now and no offence but a kid isn't going to be scarred for life if they see a video of a perfectly natural activity
When I have kids obviously ill moniter internet use but for things such as paedophillia etc if its porn then i'll think nothing of it.
So really what a retarded idea. The government should have more to deal with than this.
Oh wait i forgot they want to eliminate every type of fun that people can have in this country my mistake, so sex next
Again, this is only a small thing, but it's the Conservatives way of trying out Internet Regulation, they want to adopt the China method in the UK.
Look up the articles, they've already admitted thet Content Control and Internet Regulation is a thing they want and spouted crap like "It'll be good for the Economy and Good for the People!"
People wake up, it's sad to see soo many people actually saying this is a good idea nd they support it, this is just a foot note into them getting full control over the traffic in the UK!
And children will still see it if you refuse to monitor what they watch. Porn comes on CDs and usb sticks too.
First of all we don't know what kind of hardship I might be put through. Second of all, if you've got kids, guess what it's going to be hard work but it's up to YOU not ME or the government to look after your kids so it's going to be necessary.
And I am concerned because of what this represents, I am being asked to curtail my freedoms for no good reason. Even if the effort is minimal it is effort that I should not be required to make.
It's comments like this that are just sad to see, they've tricked you, you think they want to protect kids? They want to control internet traffic and regulate it in the UK, selling high speeds and access to big corporations bidding and user created websites getting shafted and blocked.
In this country, as long as you say 'protecting children' you can basically do what you want. In other countries it's 'what God says'. Every country has it's Achilles heel.
True - I can't remember exactly what the headline was on the Sunday Telegraph yesterday but it was something like:
'Think Of The Children - Ban Internet Porn'.
What's stopping porn websites from not declaring themselves? What's stopping new websites from disguising? And what about obscure fetish porn that doesn't look like porn in the classic sense, but is? Are they also going to ban videos of, say, people stepping on balloons that were intended to be erotic even though the vast majority of viewers won't see it like that?
Got to bear in mind though that is is a) clearly still just at 'idea' level- it probably won't actually happen, and b) the main newspapers don't appear to have seen it as important enough to run with yet. It isn't like this is some imminent thing.
I don't have anything against the internet I think it is a great tool but I think it should be for all to use without the monitoring for children. Adult material should be accessed by those wishing to view it. and not the other way around.
What about parents who've not got a clue of how to block sites in the browser? Ssaying this though, all the child would have to do is "search for something" aand they'd likely find exactly what they were looking for.
Then they should learn. Or only let their kids use the net when they are present.
Is that not the case? If they are displaying a warning page before you enter then surely that is the point at which adults and teenagers alike should take responsibility.
Where is all this other unrestricted porn littered everywhere. I never come across things like that
I know there isn't any on the Linux Distro web site because I've been all through there.
I bet this Tory crackpot, Claire Perry has never even been to any of these web sites. She admits she has little grasp of the Internet, and yet she wants to start telling everyone else how it should be controlled. Is she just a front person for totalitarian rule? The Tories aren't even going to get back in power again for decades. Every day they come out with some brainless idea even worse than their last one. Most of their female MPs are modelled on Sarah Palin politics, and most of the blokes are some sort of hideous cross between Kevin and Perry, or Dumb and Dumber. :eek:
In schools, the filters are probably better than most parents could do at home...and porn still slips through and you get the kids viewing things they shouldn't....I am all for this...nothing to stop you watching porn is there?
So why should the parents be required to make the effort on what should be a service for all to use? As a single man why should you be required to make no effort? Unless of course you see it as an adult service.
But you do have something against the internet in relation to porn. Do you feel the same about all other broadcast channels? How do you feel about satellite TV?
Lazy parents need to do more parenting and stop expecting some magic solutions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo
This comes soon after the wikileaks saga, but still people seem unconcerned.
Because they have the kids and I don't. I don't have any responsibility in relation to how someone else brings up their kids nor should I have. It is up to the parents, not me. If they want to restrict what their kids view on the net then they should do that but they should not also have the right to complicate what I get to view on the net at the same time.
I personally wouldn't allow my children unsupervised access to the internet.
I'm surprised there are so many people here who would.