Upgrading to Fibre (Plusnet) from TalkTalk Broadband (Router/Modem Questions)
Hyflex_One
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Hey,
I will be moving to Plus Net for my fibre optics next week and they provide their new router that is called the "Plusnet 2704n" which is actually a rebranded Sagemcom 2704n router.
It does NOT come with an intergrated VDSL model for FTTC broadband lines, instead BT Openreach come and install their VDSL Openreach Modem which will be one of these two: https://hackingecibfocusv2fubirevb.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/eci_000b.jpg
Apparently the Sagemcom 2704n (http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2015/01/isp-plusnet-launch-faster-hub-zero-2704n-broadband-router-full-specs.html) router is a pretty shabby and cheap router with the following spec:
**Manufacturer / Model**
Sagemcom 2704N ADSL 2/2+
**Chipset**
Broadcom 6318 333MHz MIPS32®
**Ethernet**
Integrated Gigabit switch with 4 x 10/100 (Fast not Gig) ports
**Wi-Fi Chip**
Broadcom 43217T
**Wi-Fi Standard**
802.11 B/G/N (2.4GHz 2 x 2)
**Ethernet WAN Interface **
Port 4 can be used as a WAN interface in FTTC mode
**Power Consumption**
3.4W FTTC – 3.8W ADSL (average)
I found the following thread http://forum.micromart.co.uk/Topic479317.aspx but it's pretty old, I too would rather replace the kit with my own one to get better speeds.
I have no idea if my current router (Huawei HG533) (http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2012/05/talktalk-uk-isp-trial-reveals-new-router-for-forthcoming-youview-tv-service.html) is better or worse than the Sagemcom router because I can't find any specs anywhere on the internet....
I also have a spare Virgin Media Super Hub VMDG480 which doesn't have any DSL connections instead it has a coaxial connection, which I assume is for FTTH (Fibre to the Home) instead of FTTC (Fibre to the Cabinet) which is what I am getting.
Any ideas, suggestions and thoughts would be very much welcome.
I will be moving to Plus Net for my fibre optics next week and they provide their new router that is called the "Plusnet 2704n" which is actually a rebranded Sagemcom 2704n router.
It does NOT come with an intergrated VDSL model for FTTC broadband lines, instead BT Openreach come and install their VDSL Openreach Modem which will be one of these two: https://hackingecibfocusv2fubirevb.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/eci_000b.jpg
Apparently the Sagemcom 2704n (http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2015/01/isp-plusnet-launch-faster-hub-zero-2704n-broadband-router-full-specs.html) router is a pretty shabby and cheap router with the following spec:
**Manufacturer / Model**
Sagemcom 2704N ADSL 2/2+
**Chipset**
Broadcom 6318 333MHz MIPS32®
**Ethernet**
Integrated Gigabit switch with 4 x 10/100 (Fast not Gig) ports
**Wi-Fi Chip**
Broadcom 43217T
**Wi-Fi Standard**
802.11 B/G/N (2.4GHz 2 x 2)
**Ethernet WAN Interface **
Port 4 can be used as a WAN interface in FTTC mode
**Power Consumption**
3.4W FTTC – 3.8W ADSL (average)
I found the following thread http://forum.micromart.co.uk/Topic479317.aspx but it's pretty old, I too would rather replace the kit with my own one to get better speeds.
I have no idea if my current router (Huawei HG533) (http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2012/05/talktalk-uk-isp-trial-reveals-new-router-for-forthcoming-youview-tv-service.html) is better or worse than the Sagemcom router because I can't find any specs anywhere on the internet....
I also have a spare Virgin Media Super Hub VMDG480 which doesn't have any DSL connections instead it has a coaxial connection, which I assume is for FTTH (Fibre to the Home) instead of FTTC (Fibre to the Cabinet) which is what I am getting.
Any ideas, suggestions and thoughts would be very much welcome.
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The Virgin router is useless here. It's not an FTTH thing either - it's copper coax to the home. Virgin doesn't do fibre to the home despite what the advertising may suggest. It only accepts an internet connection provided over that coax cable.
Hi,
I noticed the thread http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2061842 suggests TP-Link WDR3600 with the openreach modem or TP-Link TD-W9980 without the modem.
Would anyone suggest differently?
I would wait until you have your connection up and running so you can see what the performance is like from the supplied equipment.
If not to you satisfaction then the following review may help in determining what to get.
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2014/12/2015-update-broadband-router-options-uk-fttc-vdsl-isps.html
It's six months old so there may (will !!!) be newer equipment on the market.
Bian
Are the following 3 compatible? (VDSL?) I would prefer getting one that has Wireless AC compatiblity because I have two devices that can use Wireless AC and obviously more and more things will start using it.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00OA4YJFY
- 4 Different Models ranging from £58 - £130, Although £78 for the 1200 model which is the same as the two below.
http://www.ebuyer.com/612004
- 1200 Model costs £78
http://www.netgear.co.uk/home/products/networking/dsl-modems-routers/D6200.aspx
- 1200 Model costs £78
When I decide to get an all in one, my two choices are TP Link W9980 or Billion 8800NL both around £65
Personally, I decided to get Plusnet fibre installed, use the BT modem with my own router and try it out for a month then decide on getting an all in one once the service was proven reliable before adding different equipment, also there's not much choice for all in one VDSL fibre modems so thought I'd wait for more choice (possibly) and hope for the existing models to get updates once their initial bugs are discovered and ironed out (as is happening with TP Link and Billion)
None of those routers actually have VDSL modems, so you'd have to use them with the Openreach modem.
You'd want to get one that either explicitly has a VDSL modem or one that doesn't (it'll be a bit cheaper/better value since you aren't paying for an ADSL modem you won't use)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TD-W9980-Wireless-Gigabit-300Mbps/dp/B00NEQZ12Y is one example of a router with built in modem
http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-Archer-C7-Wireless-Gigabit/dp/B00CEB53MS is an example of one with only ethernet WAN (to connect to BT modem)
The sagecom is not bad to be honest, I know it is a hacked ADSL router, and you only got three usable lan sockets, but it works pretty well. But it is pretty limited in configuring, which is why I prefer my TP-Link.