I daresay it bodes well for me - their preview of Under the Lake wasn't very positive, either Didn't read like the 4-stars it ultimately got, anyhow.
Strangely everything they cite to slag it off makes me more interested. Especially after the rather bog standard nature of Part 1. What dull taste some Doctor Who fans have.
Have to agree with others that their opinion of it actually gives me higher hopes, as it's more in line with what I want. And whilst of course a review is just someone else's opinion, their review for Under the Lake did indeed seem a bit at odds with the rating they gave it... mixed signals.
Perhaps the most interesting thing about it that they've criticised is the 'talking, talking, and yet more talking'. I like a face-off with a villain who doesn't necessarily go in all guns blazing and actually has the intellectual capacity to talk with the Doctor. Oddly enough I've seen a few people criticising this 'standing around talking, and not doing anything' approach, and they were often also the ones who were first to call out the Matt Smith era for never bothering to slow down to deliver anything substantial. I do sometimes wonder what some people want from the show.
Have to agree with others that their opinion of it actually gives me higher hopes, as it's more in line with what I want. And whilst of course a review is just someone else's opinion, their review for Under the Lake did indeed seem a bit at odds with the rating they gave it... mixed signals.
Perhaps the most interesting thing about it that they've criticised is the 'talking, talking, and yet more talking'. I like a face-off with a villain who doesn't necessarily go in all guns blazing and actually has the intellectual capacity to talk with the Doctor. Oddly enough I've seen a few people criticising this 'standing around talking, and not doing anything' approach, and they were often also the ones who were first to call out the Matt Smith era for never bothering to slow down to deliver anything substantial. I do sometimes wonder what some people want from the show.
It's never been so obvious that by doing one thing you will alienate some fans and the minute you appeal to them you annoy others. It's almost becoming laughable.
Not enough two partners? Ok. Here's some two parters. Oh but two parters are too slow/alienate the casual audience/don't offer enough variation
Matt Smith was too silly? Ok. Here's a new kind of Doctor. A bit more serious and with a darker streak but still the same old Timelord. Oh but he's too grumpy/difficult to relate to/too alien/he puts off casual and younger viewers
The Doctor and his companion having a relationship is too soapy and annoying? Ok. Here is a Doctor/ companion relationship that is more complex than that...it's a deep friendship with a paternal aspect. Oh but the show needs a bit of love and romance otherwise you risk alienating...etc.
Clara doesn't feel like a real human being and instead she is a plot device? Ok. Here's Clara having a career and a home life and a relationship. Oh but no one wants to watch Clara going on dates and her boring work life. Can't it go back to them just travelling in space?
Too many stories set on Earth/Too many stories not on modern earth alienate the casual audience
They overuse the sonic screwdriver/why did they get rid of the sonic screwdriver?
It's on too early- it isn't a kids show!/It's on too late- it isn't an adult show
Moffat keeps reusing old ideas and things from other episodes he's written- has he run out of ideas? Sack him/Whithouse recycles ideas from other people's episodes and his story reminded me of *insert one of many Classic or New Who stories*- it's brilliant how he makes references to old Who and repeats well used themes- its a great idea! Make him show runner.
It's never been so obvious that by doing one thing you will alienate some fans and the minute you appeal to them you annoy others. It's almost becoming laughable.
Not enough two partners? Ok. Here's some two parters. Oh but two parters are too slow/alienate the casual audience/don't offer enough variation
Matt Smith was too silly? Ok. Here's a new kind of Doctor. A bit more serious and with a darker streak but still the same old Timelord. Oh but he's too grumpy/difficult to relate to/too alien/he puts off casual and younger viewers
The Doctor and his companion having a relationship is too soapy and annoying? Ok. Here is a Doctor/ companion relationship that is more complex than that...it's a deep friendship with a paternal aspect. Oh but the show needs a bit of love and romance otherwise you risk alienating...etc.
Clara doesn't feel like a real human being and instead she is a plot device? Ok. Here's Clara having a career and a home life and a relationship. Oh but no one wants to watch Clara going on dates and her boring work life. Can't it go back to them just travelling in space?
Too many stories set on Earth/Too many stories not on modern earth alienate the casual audience
They overuse the sonic screwdriver/why did they get rid of the sonic screwdriver?
It's on too early- it isn't a kids show!/It's on too late- it isn't an adult show
Moffat keeps reusing old ideas and things from other episodes he's written- has he run out of ideas? Sack him/Whithouse recycles ideas from other people's episodes and his story reminded me of *insert one of many Classic or New Who stories*- it's brilliant how he makes references to old Who and repeats well used themes- its a great idea! Make him show runner.
Sigh.
It's not even about anyone's opinions on doctor who any more is it.....all that matters is others opinions on the show and getting them all to conform one way or the other
The place really needs to find a way of regenerating or it'll suffer a lasting death
It's never been so obvious that by doing one thing you will alienate some fans and the minute you appeal to them you annoy others. It's almost becoming laughable.
Not enough two partners? Ok. Here's some two parters. Oh but two parters are too slow/alienate the casual audience/don't offer enough variation
Matt Smith was too silly? Ok. Here's a new kind of Doctor. A bit more serious and with a darker streak but still the same old Timelord. Oh but he's too grumpy/difficult to relate to/too alien/he puts off casual and younger viewers
The Doctor and his companion having a relationship is too soapy and annoying? Ok. Here is a Doctor/ companion relationship that is more complex than that...it's a deep friendship with a paternal aspect. Oh but the show needs a bit of love and romance otherwise you risk alienating...etc.
Clara doesn't feel like a real human being and instead she is a plot device? Ok. Here's Clara having a career and a home life and a relationship. Oh but no one wants to watch Clara going on dates and her boring work life. Can't it go back to them just travelling in space?
Too many stories set on Earth/Too many stories not on modern earth alienate the casual audience
They overuse the sonic screwdriver/why did they get rid of the sonic screwdriver?
It's on too early- it isn't a kids show!/It's on too late- it isn't an adult show
Moffat keeps reusing old ideas and things from other episodes he's written- has he run out of ideas? Sack him/Whithouse recycles ideas from other people's episodes and his story reminded me of *insert one of many Classic or New Who stories*- it's brilliant how he makes references to old Who and repeats well used themes- its a great idea! Make him show runner.
Sigh.
Single most spot on post ever.
Thing is, it's not just Who. The Soap forums are full of the same. I feel even more sorry for the people there because at least Who only has limited yearly episode count. The Soap have five episodes every week to loathe.
One of the comments did say that the episode had already aired in the UK when the others were shouting spoilers so I guess the BBC must have moved it to Friday nights without telling anyone
One of the comments did say that the episode had already aired in the UK when the others were shouting spoilers so I guess the BBC must have moved it to Friday nights without telling anyone
I replied to that, realising it was an American guy who simply didn't know that the show goes out on Saturday nights here, or that there isn't a week delay between the UK and the US or something. I wasn't quite sure of what he thought the structure was
Actually I found out today from a tabloid TV magazine (not Radio Times) about the guitar playing. About time we had an electric guitar for the theme. :cool:
Is the Christmas episode being filmed at the moment? Haven't heard anything of it yet!
By the way a Will Atkinson on Doctor Who TV mentioned his favourite Bases under siege stories. Correctly identified The Web Of Fear at the number 1 slot, but missed out one of the all time classics. The Moonbase. For me, that is one of the ultimate Bases under siege stories. It's on the moon, no means of escape, being invaded by machines that want to convert humans. Replace The Time of Angels/Flesh & Stone at number 2 with The Moonbase and you've got the perfect list.
Is the Christmas episode being filmed at the moment? Haven't heard anything of it yet!
To my knowledge they wrapped filming a week or two ago...may be mistaken mind you. There were a few on-set pictures of the filming posted to the official Instagram.
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I daresay it bodes well for me - their preview of Under the Lake wasn't very positive, either
Strangely everything they cite to slag it off makes me more interested. Especially after the rather bog standard nature of Part 1. What dull taste some Doctor Who fans have.
Have to agree with others that their opinion of it actually gives me higher hopes, as it's more in line with what I want. And whilst of course a review is just someone else's opinion, their review for Under the Lake did indeed seem a bit at odds with the rating they gave it... mixed signals.
Perhaps the most interesting thing about it that they've criticised is the 'talking, talking, and yet more talking'. I like a face-off with a villain who doesn't necessarily go in all guns blazing and actually has the intellectual capacity to talk with the Doctor. Oddly enough I've seen a few people criticising this 'standing around talking, and not doing anything' approach, and they were often also the ones who were first to call out the Matt Smith era for never bothering to slow down to deliver anything substantial. I do sometimes wonder what some people want from the show.
It's never been so obvious that by doing one thing you will alienate some fans and the minute you appeal to them you annoy others. It's almost becoming laughable.
Not enough two partners? Ok. Here's some two parters. Oh but two parters are too slow/alienate the casual audience/don't offer enough variation
Matt Smith was too silly? Ok. Here's a new kind of Doctor. A bit more serious and with a darker streak but still the same old Timelord. Oh but he's too grumpy/difficult to relate to/too alien/he puts off casual and younger viewers
The Doctor and his companion having a relationship is too soapy and annoying? Ok. Here is a Doctor/ companion relationship that is more complex than that...it's a deep friendship with a paternal aspect. Oh but the show needs a bit of love and romance otherwise you risk alienating...etc.
Clara doesn't feel like a real human being and instead she is a plot device? Ok. Here's Clara having a career and a home life and a relationship. Oh but no one wants to watch Clara going on dates and her boring work life. Can't it go back to them just travelling in space?
Too many stories set on Earth/Too many stories not on modern earth alienate the casual audience
They overuse the sonic screwdriver/why did they get rid of the sonic screwdriver?
It's on too early- it isn't a kids show!/It's on too late- it isn't an adult show
Moffat keeps reusing old ideas and things from other episodes he's written- has he run out of ideas? Sack him/Whithouse recycles ideas from other people's episodes and his story reminded me of *insert one of many Classic or New Who stories*- it's brilliant how he makes references to old Who and repeats well used themes- its a great idea! Make him show runner.
Sigh.
https://instagram.com/p/8gME_mDqb2/
It's not even about anyone's opinions on doctor who any more is it.....all that matters is others opinions on the show and getting them all to conform one way or the other
The place really needs to find a way of regenerating or it'll suffer a lasting death
Single most spot on post ever.
Thing is, it's not just Who. The Soap forums are full of the same. I feel even more sorry for the people there because at least Who only has limited yearly episode count. The Soap have five episodes every week to loathe.
Beautiful ep coming soon with @Maisie_Williams
Written by Jamie Mathieson @Jamti & Mr Moffat
Directed by Ed Bazalgette @bazal80 #DoctorWho
So looking forward to this one.
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-10-09/peter-capaldi-plays-electric-guitar-over-doctor-who-opening-credits
Somewhat as expected, but a shame to hear it spoiled so publicly all the same. Someone's really doing a good job there
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One of the comments did say that the episode had already aired in the UK when the others were shouting spoilers so I guess the BBC must have moved it to Friday nights without telling anyone
I replied to that, realising it was an American guy who simply didn't know that the show goes out on Saturday nights here, or that there isn't a week delay between the UK and the US or something. I wasn't quite sure of what he thought the structure was
Maisie didnt know who he was
https://twitter.com/GirlyLetters/status/653993157298921472/photo/1
By the way a Will Atkinson on Doctor Who TV mentioned his favourite Bases under siege stories. Correctly identified The Web Of Fear at the number 1 slot, but missed out one of the all time classics. The Moonbase. For me, that is one of the ultimate Bases under siege stories. It's on the moon, no means of escape, being invaded by machines that want to convert humans. Replace The Time of Angels/Flesh & Stone at number 2 with The Moonbase and you've got the perfect list.
Sorry Will, if you're reading this. ;-)
To my knowledge they wrapped filming a week or two ago...may be mistaken mind you.
They must be in post production then?