What is going on with David?!

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  • FMKKFMKK Posts: 32,074
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    Is this more of the stressing the importance of Christian charity etc. which is code for eroding state assistance for the poor?
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,180
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    FMKK wrote: »
    Is this more of the stressing the importance of Christian charity etc. which is code for eroding state assistance for the poor?

    Good point. Essential services are essential, but Dave would rather see them cut.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,180
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    Over the last two years, the argument that the austerity measures introduced by the Coalition government have not been ‘neutral’ has become a truism – the position has been put forward, through various lenses and numerous examples, that the cuts have been ‘ideological’, targeting the sectors and constituencies which are least invested in by the Tory vision.** As these arguments develop, the difficulty has been in pinpointing how the different austerity measures and deterioration of social provisions negatively interact.* In the case of domestic violence provisions, it has come through a variety of avenues: cuts to police and the criminal justice system, cuts to charities working on domestic violence that are funded by local government and wider cuts that structurally contribute to the rise of domestic violence and deterioration in provisions for those affected by domestic violence, predominantly women and children.
    http://www.opendemocracy.net/5050/heather-mcrobie/austerity-and-domestic-violence-mapping-damage

    Not essential enough for this government.
  • rusty123rusty123 Posts: 22,872
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    ShaunIOW wrote: »
    He doesn't demonstrate having any Christian values - if anything just the opposite by demonising the poor and sick and protecting the money lenders.

    Sounds familiar.....oh yeah...... the Vatican
  • mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    Sounds like some PR hack has decided that Dave needs to court the Christian vote.

    I hope it's not a step on the ongoing Americanisation of the country, where politicians seem to have to devote themselves to Christianity to have any hope of winning.
  • Kiko H FanKiko H Fan Posts: 6,546
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    He is a Christian why are you surprised?

    In that case I trust he's been to church every day since Sunday, given that this is probably the holiest week to Christians.

    Or will he just turn up on Sunday, for the happy service, when all the depressing services of this week have been done.
  • Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    moox wrote: »
    Sounds like some PR hack has decided that Dave needs to court the Christian vote.

    After Ed's Jewish jaunt who will Nick court?
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,074
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    I think David going on about his Christianity might have something to do with trying to win back any Christian voters lost due to supporting gay marriage. It is only a couple of weeks ago we had the first gay marriages, and gay marriages received and are still receiving some press coverage.
  • bornfreebornfree Posts: 16,360
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    He will say anything to gain popularity. Remember he is a PR man.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,570
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    Great, a PM that believes in fairytales.
  • TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    Don't forget this is a government with spectacularly bad PR advisors. Often obvious and simple-minded.

    But the Conservatives have also completly abandoned a "one nation" attitude and think they can remain in power by simply appealing to those at the extremes.

    So now they want the "Christian vote"
  • StaunchyStaunchy Posts: 10,904
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    Tassium wrote: »
    Don't forget this is a government with spectacularly bad PR advisors. Often obvious and simple-minded.

    But the Conservatives have also completly abandoned a "one nation" attitude and think they can remain in power by simply appealing to those at the extremes.

    So now they want the "Christian vote"

    As an atheist even I wouldn't fall into describing the UK's Christians as being at the extremes, much less the Church of England who often give the impression that the jumble sales, coffee mornings and other social events are more important than any of that god stuff.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,232
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    Perhaps he read somewhere that: “religion is the opiate of the people” and thought : “Ahh, let's have a go at that one again!”

    Thatcher used religion in an attempt to bring some moral justification to her dirty deeds, they don’t care how low they stoop.

    Cameron’s belief system is based on Thatcherism, which is as far removed from anything Jesus allegedly did as you can get.

    If Trading Standards had any authority in Westminster, it would have been closed down long ago.

    Cameron's hope is that he's on the road to victory, not Damascus.

    Cameron and IDS are complete hypocrites.

    Next thing we hear is that Cameron has paid Dot Cotton a retainer to become his personal adviser on the ways of the good book and capitalism.

    He needs to lay off the winegums for a week or two.
  • Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    bornfree wrote: »
    He will say anything to gain popularity. Remember he is a PR man.

    He isn't a good one
  • Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    Scott_P wrote: »
    Great, a PM that believes in fairytales.

    As opposed to the others who told fairytales
  • MARTYM8MARTYM8 Posts: 44,710
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    He is a Christian why are you surprised?

    Is he really? Or is he just trying to peel off some UKIP votes?

    He is in the pockets of the moneylenders and makes the poorest and most vulnerable suffer while enriching himself and his mates.

    I don't think Jesus would have been impressed with him!
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,181
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    Tal'shiar wrote: »
    So our loved/hated PM has yet again been on the faith wheel.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10770425/David-Cameron-says-Christians-should-be-more-evangelical.html

    Seriously though, I dont care which side you sit on (I am neither), but this is pretty odd. This stinks of American style faith loving nonsense that was often left alone thankfully in the UK. Why the all of a sudden increase? Lets be honest, its only going to costs more and more votes, not to mention stoke the flames in the religious world as you have non-Christians feeling a little uncomfortable.

    Whats up with Dave, is he having a mid life crisis or something?

    (To be clear, I am genuinely puzzled by this new religious angle. Blair was a **** wit but he never went down that route, and not coming up to an election. Seems a very odd move to say the least.)

    Your Username gives a clue as to where you are coming from.>:(
  • rusty123rusty123 Posts: 22,872
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    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    After Ed's Jewish jaunt who will Nick court?

    The Stonehenge summer solstice brigade perhaps?

    Having said that they're probably Lib-Dems already.

    :D
  • Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    ecckles wrote: »
    Your Username gives a clue as to where you are coming from.>:(

    Romulus
  • LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,647
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    Scott_P wrote: »
    Great, a PM that believes in fairytales.

    Socialism is the most dangerous fairytale of all.
  • CharlotteswebCharlottesweb Posts: 18,680
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    ecckles wrote: »
    Your Username gives a clue as to where you are coming from.>:(

    A fiction group from the star trek universe you mean?
  • Ray_SmithRay_Smith Posts: 1,372
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    Not even God will save Cameron (and Clegg) from oblivion at the next election. Cameron can believe in God, pray each night, won't make any difference. He will be gone from office next year. God doesn't love (rude word deleted!) politicians. Amen!!!!
  • apaulapaul Posts: 9,846
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    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    After Ed's Jewish jaunt who will Nick court?

    He's already said he is a non-believer. When's Cameron going to arrange the stoning?
  • JB3JB3 Posts: 9,308
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    LostFool wrote: »
    Socialism is the most dangerous fairytale of all.
    Don't know that the Scandinavian social democraCies would agree with you
  • apaulapaul Posts: 9,846
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    What Scandinavian social democracies? Isn't Denmark the only Scandinavian country with a Social Demorcratic prime minister, and she looks likely to be voted out at the next election?
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