Tory MP says incorporate astrology into medicine

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  • GreatGodPanGreatGodPan Posts: 53,186
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    Erlang wrote: »

    Perhaps a few more politicians could do with at least questioning the new religion - the undisputed hegemony of science.

    Too many bow down before it and believe men and women in white coats (working for massive multinationals, natch) are the source of all wisdom.............
  • GreatGodPanGreatGodPan Posts: 53,186
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    solenoid wrote: »
    There are over 200 Labour MPs who believe in Socialism. Kooks everywhere.

    Wow! Who are they then??
  • Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    jcafcw wrote: »
    Tony Blair believed there was weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

    So did David Cameron. sadly

    I didn't, and neither did millions of other people.
  • LyricalisLyricalis Posts: 57,958
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    How has this chap not defected to UKIP?
  • LyricalisLyricalis Posts: 57,958
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    solenoid wrote: »
    There are over 200 Labour MPs who believe in Socialism. Kooks everywhere.

    Yes, damn those kooks in the Labour party who don't believe in socialism. They should have joined the other sociopaths in the Tory party.
  • Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    Perhaps the MP is looking to be recruited by UKIP
  • smudges dadsmudges dad Posts: 36,989
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    Jol44 wrote: »
    A Conservative MP has spoken of his belief in astrology and his desire to incorporate it into medicine.

    David Tredinnick said he had spent 20 years studying astrology and healthcare and was convinced it could work.

    The MP for Bosworth, a member of the health committee and the science and technology committee, said he was not afraid of ridicule or abuse.

    "There is no logic in attacking something that has a proven track record," he told BBC News.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28464009

    Well it's a different angle at looking at things I suppose.

    He belongs in UKIP
  • allaortaallaorta Posts: 19,050
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    He belongs in UKIP

    He may well apply to join the Greens. Not because he thinks they're great but because he realises saying something stupid automatically qualifies him for membership.
  • BrokenArrowBrokenArrow Posts: 21,665
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    Yep, I join the UKIP bandwagon, his natural home.
  • Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    Kite-flying from the Tories.
  • solenoidsolenoid Posts: 15,495
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    Until such a time is reached when the NHS stops spending our money, in certain clinics, on homeopathy then any mad medical idea may be lobbied for and accepted as part of NHS treatment.

    That includes astrological-based massages and witchy-poo herbal tea for smelly bowels.
  • ErlangErlang Posts: 6,619
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    Perhaps a few more politicians could do with at least questioning the new religion - the undisputed hegemony of science.

    Too many bow down before it and believe men and women in white coats (working for massive multinationals, natch) are the source of all wisdom.............

    A few more?

    There is hardly a qualified scientist amongst them. Most can barely understand accepted concepts from 30-40 years ago let alone recent achievements.

    The rise of irrational thought is more than worrisome, and as for a comic book portrayal of white coated scientists making stuff up.
  • StaunchyStaunchy Posts: 10,904
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    Erlang wrote: »
    A few more?

    There is hardly a qualified scientist amongst them. Most can barely understand accepted concepts from 30-40 years ago let alone recent achievements.

    The rise of irrational thought is more than worrisome, and as for a comic book portrayal of white coated scientists making stuff up.

    That'll be the scientists working for big pharma/agriculture (Filthy hun weasels, fighting their dirty underhand war!) as opposed to those scientists who are on the side of everything green/magical thinking (Splendid fellows, brave heroes risking life and limb for Blighty!). ;)
  • Regis MagnaeRegis Magnae Posts: 6,810
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    There are scores of politicians with a pet idea they want put in place, and Vaz who appears to have many pet ideas it seems.
  • OLD HIPPY GUYOLD HIPPY GUY Posts: 28,199
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    Bloke is a first rate plonker obviously,
    Anyone who believes that the light from a star that could have taken tens of millions of years to get here, and which just happens to form a 'pattern' or shape with other totally unrelated stars which are in turn many millions of light years away from each other and only form said pattern when seen from our perspective, and our place in this vast universe,
    Can somehow have an effect on, or predict the future of, events on this tiny little cosmic speck of dust orbiting around a particularly unremarkable and pretty boring star, stuck out in the remote suburbs of just another galaxy, one of trillions of other galaxies, each comprising of trillions of stars,
    REALLY REALLY REALLY does need to pull their primitive medieval head outa their primitive medieval backside and try joining the rest of us in the 21st century, and perhaps reading a simple "Astronomy for beginners" type book,

    and this superstitious stupidity has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that he is a Tory,


    Although, it certainly doesn't help his case,
    :D
  • Judge MentalJudge Mental Posts: 18,593
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    Staunchy wrote: »
    I happen to think that there is a big difference between political viewpoints and woo, maybe you could explain why in your opinion there isn't.

    Woo - what is that?
  • StaunchyStaunchy Posts: 10,904
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    Woo - what is that?

    From here:

    woo-woo adj. concerned with emotions, mysticism, or spiritualism; other than rational or scientific; mysterious; new agey. Also n., a person who has mystical or new age beliefs. (source: Double-Tongued Dictionary)
  • BrokenArrowBrokenArrow Posts: 21,665
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    Soon, they will be advocating teaching religious eduction in school - LOL
  • allaortaallaorta Posts: 19,050
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    Bloke is a first rate plonker obviously,
    Anyone who believes that the light from a star that could have taken tens of millions of years to get here, and which just happens to form a 'pattern' or shape with other totally unrelated stars which are in turn many millions of light years away from each other and only form said pattern when seen from our perspective, and our place in this vast universe,
    Can somehow have an effect on, or predict the future of, events on this tiny little cosmic speck of dust orbiting around a particularly unremarkable and pretty boring star, stuck out in the remote suburbs of just another galaxy, one of trillions of other galaxies, each comprising of trillions of stars,

    Oh ye of little faith.


    REALLY REALLY REALLY does need to pull their primitive medieval head outa their primitive medieval backside and try joining the rest of us in the 21st century, and perhaps reading a simple "Astronomy for beginners" type book,

    One has to start somewhere.

    and this superstitious stupidity has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that he is a Tory,

    It may have something to do with his being a politician who have all sorts of cranky ideas that other politicians believe.
    Although, it certainly doesn't help his case,:D

    I've serious doubts he's been helped by anything he's ever said, the man's a fruitloop.
  • mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    It's probably a good thing he's not afraid of ridicule. :)

    Probably used to it by now.
  • GreatGodPanGreatGodPan Posts: 53,186
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    Erlang wrote: »
    A few more?

    There is hardly a qualified scientist amongst them.
    Most can barely understand accepted concepts from 30-40 years ago let alone recent achievements.

    The rise of irrational thought is more than worrisome, and as for a comic book portrayal of white coated scientists making stuff up.

    I said a few more politicians, not scientists.

    I find your worship in the New Religion worrisome too.
  • ErlangErlang Posts: 6,619
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    I said a few more politicians, not scientists.

    I read what you said, I disagreed with what you said about MP's understanding of science.
    I find your worship in the New Religion worrisome too.

    Science is not a religion.

    You are confusing or conflating science driven industry for science.
    Science (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.
  • EnnerjeeEnnerjee Posts: 5,131
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    Now if he was already a member of UKIP this story would have been on the front pages of the newspapers and really ridiculed.

    This guy's my Mum's MP and I'm surprised, however, Holland and Barrett have their headquarters in his constituency.
  • EnnerjeeEnnerjee Posts: 5,131
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    He'd do better to study the power of the placebo effect in medicine.
  • GreatGodPanGreatGodPan Posts: 53,186
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    Erlang wrote: »
    I read what you said, [1I disagreed with what you said about MP's understanding of science.



    [2]Science is not a religion.

    You are confusing or conflating science driven industry for science.

    1. I didn't write anything about MPs understanding of science or not.

    2. Unfortunately, many today do worship science in exactly the same manner as somebody else bows the knee to a religious faith.
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