Is there any reason why NF doesn't have a regular call-in programme with the Greens or Labour for that matter? Johnson, Clegg and Farage make it look like a mini United States Radio in London only representing the British equivalents to the Republicans, Democrats and the Tea Party. Are there really no broadcasting rules on this?
Thanks for the last two posts. In truth, I am more bothered about the lack of representation of the Greens than the Labour Party as the latter can allegedly take care of itself. It may well be true that Ed M and others are reluctant to do a regular call-in on NF. I accept that and also that Balls and others are on Iain Dale. But the biggest audience by far is surely the breakfast show? Going back to the Greens, don't they consistently pick up more votes than UKIP in Greater London and its suburbs? On the surface, it may look like LBC has bias against them. While it is now a national station, sort of, I don't think that status would hold up as an argument under scrutiny because the position was the same before the latest changes. Maybe this is better in "LBC politics"? But it is also programme content?
(nb I suppose Farage was introduced when they went national. That could look like a cunning sleight of hand)
Ah right. Thanks for the information. I think it is a mistake cutting their show by an hour but what they should do is tell Mellor and Ken to stop waffling on so much between each other, be more succinct with their political points (just like callers have to be) and give callers/guests more time. They talk so much to each other that whenever they put someone on, its not long before Mellor starts talking about the next "juncture coming up".
Yes i know what you mean they are also particularly David Mellor fond of not letting callers have a come back on points very often,a caller will make a point say Peter from Hammersmith they listen, then spend time talking and then say next its Paul from Staines for example.
But i have to admit i like the banter between calls from them, the show overall with a few irritants AKA my paragraph above,the show is a must listen for me how its been shortened to 2 hours,or more importantly why is beyond me.
Collins used to annoy me when he was on Talk Sport.
He used to do that 'zoo' format, and he'd have on about five or six young people one or two of which were young girls in their late teens/early twenties.
I have no doubt they were attractive too - something for Collins to tart on with and gawp at.
BIB. Collins sounds more like a commentator than a talk show host, imo. I find his style quite gruff if not cumbersome. He probably thinks 'savoir faire' is something served up in a French restaurant and, wouldn't have it any other way.
Barkes was boring when he first started on LBC but he's improved and I like his spats with callers.
I'm glad Larry 'the' Lamb is going. Never liked him. Boring and out of his league.
This is exceptionally good news. Larry the so-called Lamb was an unbearably boring champagne socialist. A golf club appointment if ever there was one. Well done LBC in admitting this dreadful error.
This is exceptionally good news. Larry the so-called Lamb was an unbearably boring champagne socialist. A golf club appointment if ever there was one. Well done LBC in admitting this dreadful error.
:D:D
Poor old Larry the Lamb i knew you would be pleased.
However you will be pleased to learn he has been signed up by the BBC for "New Tricks" so you will be able to watch him.:o
Is there any reason why NF doesn't have a regular call-in programme with the Greens or Labour for that matter? Johnson, Clegg and Farage make it look like a mini United States Radio in London only representing the British equivalents to the Republicans, Democrats and the Tea Party. Are there really no broadcasting rules on this?
Its the only thing barks should be mentioned for is that hes had the Greens leader in twice for one hour a time taking calls from listeners & being interviewed. No one else doing that. At least he gives a voice to greens when they need more time in air.
He's been acting a bit weird and aggressive with listeners. He was really abusive to a woman from Newcastle the other night. He definitely went too far.
I think he needs to bring back the guests like Spike Milligan's daughter and that John bloke.:p They seem to calm Steve down.
This is exceptionally good news. Larry the so-called Lamb was an unbearably boring champagne socialist. A golf club appointment if ever there was one. Well done LBC in admitting this dreadful error.
Any chance of impoverished listeners celebrating in the next best thing Prosecco, in light of Larry ba-ba Lamb's exit? BTW, Steve's bought this cheap version of champagne at £30 a bottle before realising it can be bought for £8. Perhaps Larry and Steve should, go figure.
Thanks for the last two posts. In truth, I am more bothered about the lack of representation of the Greens than the Labour Party as the latter can allegedly take care of itself. ..... On the surface, it may look like LBC has bias against them. While it is now a national station, sort of, I don't think that status would hold up as an argument under scrutiny because the position was the same before the latest changes. Maybe this is better in "LBC politics"? But it is also programme content?
Natalie Bennett has done several phoneins on my show. Indeed, she jokes that my programme "made" her! We did a Green Party leadership hustings in which she did very well, and went on to win their leadership election.
Also, Duncan Barkes now does a regular phone in with her. I think she's done two or three with him.
I also take the Greens very seriously and have regular guests giving their point of view. Their problem is that they don't have that many nationally known spokespeople - a bit like UKIP until very recently.
If you talk to the Greens they will tell you that LBC gives them more airtime than any other station.
Thanks for the last two posts. In truth, I am more bothered about the lack of representation of the Greens than the Labour Party as the latter can allegedly take care of itself. It may well be true that Ed M and others are reluctant to do a regular call-in on NF. I accept that and also that Balls and others are on Iain Dale. But the biggest audience by far is surely the breakfast show? Going back to the Greens, don't they consistently pick up more votes than UKIP in Greater London and its suburbs? On the surface, it may look like LBC has bias against them. While it is now a national station, sort of, I don't think that status would hold up as an argument under scrutiny because the position was the same before the latest changes. Maybe this is better in "LBC politics"? But it is also programme content?
(nb I suppose Farage was introduced when they went national. That could look like a cunning sleight of hand)
Natalie Bennett the leader of the Greens has been on Iain Dale's show a number of times and she was on Duncan Barkes's show a few weeks ago too for a whole hour. Iain Dale seemed quite bemused that she went on Barkes's show as he "picked her up on it" but she said she'd gladly go on his show for as long if invited which Iain Dlae indicated he would.
I think one of the Green's London Members, that Darren (surname escapes me Johnson?) has been on a few times with Ian Collins on his roundtable hour and with Clive Bull.
I think the Greens should get more chances with the media but it seems the media are generally going by the national polling results rather than just by election results. Having said that they still give the Lib Dems a fair bit of time but thats probably because they are part of the Governing coalition.
The Green's have blown it with me though as I do not agree with them on legalising illegal drugs. Rehab centres yes but no to legalisation. It will just lead to more consumption of drugs and useage 24/7 which will make things a lot worse in general. Just think about how many people stoned out of there heads at any time will result in.
Yes i know what you mean they are also particularly David Mellor fond of not letting callers have a come back on points very often,a caller will make a point say Peter from Hammersmith they listen, then spend time talking and then say next its Paul from Staines for example.
But i have to admit i like the banter between calls from them, the show overall with a few irritants AKA my paragraph above,the show is a must listen for me how its been shortened to 2 hours,or more importantly why is beyond me.
I think Mellor and Ken do repeat themselves a lot so any regular listner will know what a lot of their stances are already and will have heard them loads of times too. I think Mellor has gone really hysterical on the Scottish referendum and the extra powers Scotland is going to get. He just won't stop going on about it and if the current Tories in parliament did the same as him then it would have been a yes vote I think and would be in the future at some point.
Natalie Bennett has done several phoneins on my show. Indeed, she jokes that my programme "made" her! We did a Green Party leadership hustings in which she did very well, and went on to win their leadership election.
Also, Duncan Barkes now does a regular phone in with her. I think she's done two or three with him.
I also take the Greens very seriously and have regular guests giving their point of view. Their problem is that they don't have that many nationally known spokespeople - a bit like UKIP until very recently.
If you talk to the Greens they will tell you that LBC gives them more airtime than any other station.
Just wanted to clear that up.
Thanks Iain - and best Christmas wishes to you . I wasn't aware of NB's spots on your programme or that of Duncan Barkes. Both programmes are ones I hear occasionally rather than catching them on most days or not at all. I will try to hear those slots next time. That you take the Greens seriously is welcome. I don't get the impression that the BBC is wonderful in this regard. Having said as much, I am more R4 than 5L so I don't know what the latter does during the day. As you will know, there is a range of apolitical environmental things on the former - "Open Country", farming etc - and reasonable balance on "Any Questions". I still feel that the Nick Ferrari call-ins - which are essentially what Robin Day used to do on "It's Your Line" (?) at election time only ongoing - appear unbalanced. It doesn't sound as if the Greens have been offered an opportunity there and turned it down.
Its the only thing barks should be mentioned for is that hes had the Greens leader in twice for one hour a time taking calls from listeners & being interviewed. No one else doing that. At least he gives a voice to greens when they need more time in air.
Many thanks for this one. You may be interested to read the comments on this matter from and to Iain Dale.
Natalie Bennett the leader of the Greens has been on Iain Dale's show a number of times and she was on Duncan Barkes's show a few weeks ago too for a whole hour. Iain Dale seemed quite bemused that she went on Barkes's show as he "picked her up on it" but she said she'd gladly go on his show for as long if invited which Iain Dlae indicated he would.
I think one of the Green's London Members, that Darren (surname escapes me Johnson?) has been on a few times with Ian Collins on his roundtable hour and with Clive Bull.
I think the Greens should get more chances with the media but it seems the media are generally going by the national polling results rather than just by election results. Having said that they still give the Lib Dems a fair bit of time but thats probably because they are part of the Governing coalition.
The Green's have blown it with me though as I do not agree with them on legalising illegal drugs. Rehab centres yes but no to legalisation. It will just lead to more consumption of drugs and useage 24/7 which will make things a lot worse in general. Just think about how many people stoned out of there heads at any time will result in.
Thank you - and you too might like to see the comments above. I am also strongly against the Greens' drugs policy but believe that it is no different from what would be introduced by Labour, the Lib Dems and even UKIP if ever in Government. There is a 40/60 chance the Tories would do it too. I believe that these things are agreed internationally and that electorates have very little say in reality. The same, in my opinion, was true of gay marriage which I did very moderately support. Ever increasing controls on cigarette smoking are essentially occurring in order to create an environment in which the taking of illegal substances will be permitted - not in parks or cars etc. If they were ostensibly about health, they would be banned while everything that is banned would remain so. I find it really interesting - and revealing - that nowhere in politics and the mass media is the apparent contradiction between the two directions addressed. But more MPs etc have a history of illegal drug taking than legal smoking.
On the point that Nick Ferrari's show must get more listners, I would have to question that as do people really get to listen properly even if they are able to tune in? Most people will either be on there way to work or will be busy doing other things unless they are retired or something.
I think people leaving work are more likely to tune into the drive show and or take it in more properly as they won't be in as much of a rush leaving work as going to work.
I am a big fan of Clive, but not as he is currently!
Clive was great back in the old days when he was on nights. His programme was so much fun with Slomo, the organ playing person and various others. I used to love Martin Fido and the walks through little known parts of London. What have we got now? That old miserable lemon and his repetitious boring ramblings.
Thank you - and you too might like to see the comments above. I am also strongly against the Greens' drugs policy but believe that it is no different from what would be introduced by Labour, the Lib Dems and even UKIP if ever in Government. There is a 40/60 chance the Tories would do it too. I believe that these things are agreed internationally and that electorates have very little say in reality. The same, in my opinion, was true of gay marriage which I did very moderately support. Ever increasing controls on cigarette smoking are essentially occurring in order to create an environment in which the taking of illegal substances will be permitted - not in parks or cars etc. If they were ostensibly about health, they would be banned while everything that is banned would remain so.
I don't think labour and the Tories would agree to legalising illegal drugs nor should they. Those who think that drugs should be legalised, I wonder if they have been on the recieving end of people out of their heads on drugs much as if they were, I can't see why they would want them legalised.
Those who have taken drugs and want them legalised are either irresponsible and should not be listened to on this one or are not fully aware of the damage people out of it on drugs can do to other people.
Those who say drugs should be legalised because people keep on breaking the law on drugs use, well that argument could be used for any criminal offence and we aren't going to legalise all other offences are we so why should we legalise drugs. People mention alcohol and I'm with the school of thought that if alcohol had never been discovered until now, that alcohol too would never be legalised but its been legalised for so long now, its not realisitic to make it illegal.
I don't think labour and the Tories would agree to legalising illegal drugs nor should they. Those who think that drugs should be legalised, I wonder if they have been on the recieving end of people out of their heads on drugs much as if they were, I can't see why they would want them legalised.
Those who have taken drugs and want them legalised are either irresponsible and should not be listened to on this one or are not fully aware of the damage people out of it on drugs can do to other people.
Those who say drugs should be legalised because people keep on breaking the law on drugs use, well that argument could be used for any criminal offence and we aren't going to legalise all other offences are we so why should we legalise drugs. People mention alcohol and I'm with the school of thought that if alcohol had never been discovered until now, that alcohol too would never be legalised but its been legalised for so long now, its not realisitic to make it illegal.
I do think that your comments, above, about the way people listen to Nick Ferrari's show are food for thought.
On your contribution about drugs, included in this post:
I have been reading Miliband's silences for such a long time now that I feel I am sometimes able to hear them in the form of words. I would simply suggest that you follow him closely on this one as it should all be transparent once the media have done a proper job. Ditto Cameron - although he is more likely to be constrained by his back benches. And May would instinctively oppose. On the plus side, the Greens are vehemently against fracking and so am I for all kinds of reasons, not least environmental air quality. That will be sufficient for them to get my vote.
I do think that your comments, above, about the way people listen to Nick Ferrari's show are food for thought.
On your contribution about drugs, included in this post:
I have been reading Miliband's silences for such a long time now that I feel I am sometimes able to hear them in the form of words. I would simply suggest that you follow him closely on this one as it should all be transparent once the media have done a proper job. Ditto Cameron - although he is more likely to be constrained by his back benches. And May would instinctively oppose. On the plus side, the Greens are vehemently against fracking and so am I for all kinds of reasons, not least environmental air quality. That will be sufficient for them to get my vote.
I can't recall Ed Miliband being asked about legalising illegal drugs and he certainly hasn't come out with any statements indicating that is what he wants to do either. I think its more likely that the furthest Labour would go is to put more money into rehab centres which has to be the best come back on those who want to see drugs legalised.
I can't believe people when it comes to drugs. I mean drugs are illegal beause they are dangerous in general, esp for health and people wouldn't eat dangerous/contaminated food would they(just look at the hoo hah about horse meat) but they don't mind taking illegal drugs that they have no idea in how they were produced, how they were transportated into their bodies?
On the Green's, another thing that has put me off about them is that they have said they don't/won't build houses on the green belt. If they mean not building on any green land and not all green land is green belt either, then that is another massive mistake as there is only so much brownfield sites you cam build on before making towns and cities completely clogged up. The UK is already built on too small amount of land at just 12% of the land on average so some green belt land should be used to build new towns.
If the Green's have come out with this policy in a calculated way to appease the not in my back yard brigade, then that shows that the Green's are lacking proper conviction on a real key issue but are showing conviction on another issue that they shouldn't be when it comes to legalising drugs. This is just like what all other main stream parties do as well. Look at Labour showing "conviction" on Iraq when they shouldn't of done. The Lib Dems going back on scrapping tuition fees to trippling them (!) and the Tories, well I just don't see them as a party for anyone but the mega rich.
Thought I'd logged on to the Political thread by mistake. ;-)
Just before reading this post I only just realised that I wasn't on the politics thread for LBC! I had looked at both threads and thought I was still on the politics one when posting tonight.
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Ed Balls does one on Iain Dale.
(nb I suppose Farage was introduced when they went national. That could look like a cunning sleight of hand)
Yes i know what you mean they are also particularly David Mellor fond of not letting callers have a come back on points very often,a caller will make a point say Peter from Hammersmith they listen, then spend time talking and then say next its Paul from Staines for example.
But i have to admit i like the banter between calls from them, the show overall with a few irritants AKA my paragraph above,the show is a must listen for me how its been shortened to 2 hours,or more importantly why is beyond me.
BIB. Collins sounds more like a commentator than a talk show host, imo. I find his style quite gruff if not cumbersome. He probably thinks 'savoir faire' is something served up in a French restaurant and, wouldn't have it any other way.
This is exceptionally good news. Larry the so-called Lamb was an unbearably boring champagne socialist. A golf club appointment if ever there was one. Well done LBC in admitting this dreadful error.
Poor old Larry the Lamb i knew you would be pleased.
However you will be pleased to learn he has been signed up by the BBC for "New Tricks" so you will be able to watch him.:o
Its the only thing barks should be mentioned for is that hes had the Greens leader in twice for one hour a time taking calls from listeners & being interviewed. No one else doing that. At least he gives a voice to greens when they need more time in air.
He's been acting a bit weird and aggressive with listeners. He was really abusive to a woman from Newcastle the other night. He definitely went too far.
I think he needs to bring back the guests like Spike Milligan's daughter and that John bloke.:p They seem to calm Steve down.
Any chance of impoverished listeners celebrating in the next best thing Prosecco, in light of Larry ba-ba Lamb's exit?
Natalie Bennett has done several phoneins on my show. Indeed, she jokes that my programme "made" her! We did a Green Party leadership hustings in which she did very well, and went on to win their leadership election.
Also, Duncan Barkes now does a regular phone in with her. I think she's done two or three with him.
I also take the Greens very seriously and have regular guests giving their point of view. Their problem is that they don't have that many nationally known spokespeople - a bit like UKIP until very recently.
If you talk to the Greens they will tell you that LBC gives them more airtime than any other station.
Just wanted to clear that up.
Natalie Bennett the leader of the Greens has been on Iain Dale's show a number of times and she was on Duncan Barkes's show a few weeks ago too for a whole hour. Iain Dale seemed quite bemused that she went on Barkes's show as he "picked her up on it" but she said she'd gladly go on his show for as long if invited which Iain Dlae indicated he would.
I think one of the Green's London Members, that Darren (surname escapes me Johnson?) has been on a few times with Ian Collins on his roundtable hour and with Clive Bull.
I think the Greens should get more chances with the media but it seems the media are generally going by the national polling results rather than just by election results. Having said that they still give the Lib Dems a fair bit of time but thats probably because they are part of the Governing coalition.
The Green's have blown it with me though as I do not agree with them on legalising illegal drugs. Rehab centres yes but no to legalisation. It will just lead to more consumption of drugs and useage 24/7 which will make things a lot worse in general. Just think about how many people stoned out of there heads at any time will result in.
I think Mellor and Ken do repeat themselves a lot so any regular listner will know what a lot of their stances are already and will have heard them loads of times too. I think Mellor has gone really hysterical on the Scottish referendum and the extra powers Scotland is going to get. He just won't stop going on about it and if the current Tories in parliament did the same as him then it would have been a yes vote I think and would be in the future at some point.
Why is everyone saying this ? Unless i'm missing something, he hasn't.
http://www.lbc.co.uk/lbc-schedule-2015-shelagh-fogarty-joins-lbc-102148
Ian Collins - Friday - 20:00 - 22:00
Ian Collins - Saturday - 18:30 - 22:00
Thanks Iain - and best Christmas wishes to you . I wasn't aware of NB's spots on your programme or that of Duncan Barkes. Both programmes are ones I hear occasionally rather than catching them on most days or not at all. I will try to hear those slots next time. That you take the Greens seriously is welcome. I don't get the impression that the BBC is wonderful in this regard. Having said as much, I am more R4 than 5L so I don't know what the latter does during the day. As you will know, there is a range of apolitical environmental things on the former - "Open Country", farming etc - and reasonable balance on "Any Questions". I still feel that the Nick Ferrari call-ins - which are essentially what Robin Day used to do on "It's Your Line" (?) at election time only ongoing - appear unbalanced. It doesn't sound as if the Greens have been offered an opportunity there and turned it down.
Many thanks for this one. You may be interested to read the comments on this matter from and to Iain Dale.
Thank you - and you too might like to see the comments above. I am also strongly against the Greens' drugs policy but believe that it is no different from what would be introduced by Labour, the Lib Dems and even UKIP if ever in Government. There is a 40/60 chance the Tories would do it too. I believe that these things are agreed internationally and that electorates have very little say in reality. The same, in my opinion, was true of gay marriage which I did very moderately support. Ever increasing controls on cigarette smoking are essentially occurring in order to create an environment in which the taking of illegal substances will be permitted - not in parks or cars etc. If they were ostensibly about health, they would be banned while everything that is banned would remain so. I find it really interesting - and revealing - that nowhere in politics and the mass media is the apparent contradiction between the two directions addressed. But more MPs etc have a history of illegal drug taking than legal smoking.
On the point that Nick Ferrari's show must get more listners, I would have to question that as do people really get to listen properly even if they are able to tune in? Most people will either be on there way to work or will be busy doing other things unless they are retired or something.
I think people leaving work are more likely to tune into the drive show and or take it in more properly as they won't be in as much of a rush leaving work as going to work.
Clive was great back in the old days when he was on nights. His programme was so much fun with Slomo, the organ playing person and various others. I used to love Martin Fido and the walks through little known parts of London. What have we got now? That old miserable lemon and his repetitious boring ramblings.
I don't think labour and the Tories would agree to legalising illegal drugs nor should they. Those who think that drugs should be legalised, I wonder if they have been on the recieving end of people out of their heads on drugs much as if they were, I can't see why they would want them legalised.
Those who have taken drugs and want them legalised are either irresponsible and should not be listened to on this one or are not fully aware of the damage people out of it on drugs can do to other people.
Those who say drugs should be legalised because people keep on breaking the law on drugs use, well that argument could be used for any criminal offence and we aren't going to legalise all other offences are we so why should we legalise drugs. People mention alcohol and I'm with the school of thought that if alcohol had never been discovered until now, that alcohol too would never be legalised but its been legalised for so long now, its not realisitic to make it illegal.
I do think that your comments, above, about the way people listen to Nick Ferrari's show are food for thought.
On your contribution about drugs, included in this post:
I have been reading Miliband's silences for such a long time now that I feel I am sometimes able to hear them in the form of words. I would simply suggest that you follow him closely on this one as it should all be transparent once the media have done a proper job. Ditto Cameron - although he is more likely to be constrained by his back benches. And May would instinctively oppose. On the plus side, the Greens are vehemently against fracking and so am I for all kinds of reasons, not least environmental air quality. That will be sufficient for them to get my vote.
Q. What have Annie Nightingale, Michael Rosen, the late Charile Gillett and LBC's Iain Dale got in common?
A. They are the four broadcasters who have made the effort to comment on at least one of my forum posts. :cool:
I can't recall Ed Miliband being asked about legalising illegal drugs and he certainly hasn't come out with any statements indicating that is what he wants to do either. I think its more likely that the furthest Labour would go is to put more money into rehab centres which has to be the best come back on those who want to see drugs legalised.
I can't believe people when it comes to drugs. I mean drugs are illegal beause they are dangerous in general, esp for health and people wouldn't eat dangerous/contaminated food would they(just look at the hoo hah about horse meat) but they don't mind taking illegal drugs that they have no idea in how they were produced, how they were transportated into their bodies?
On the Green's, another thing that has put me off about them is that they have said they don't/won't build houses on the green belt. If they mean not building on any green land and not all green land is green belt either, then that is another massive mistake as there is only so much brownfield sites you cam build on before making towns and cities completely clogged up. The UK is already built on too small amount of land at just 12% of the land on average so some green belt land should be used to build new towns.
If the Green's have come out with this policy in a calculated way to appease the not in my back yard brigade, then that shows that the Green's are lacking proper conviction on a real key issue but are showing conviction on another issue that they shouldn't be when it comes to legalising drugs. This is just like what all other main stream parties do as well. Look at Labour showing "conviction" on Iraq when they shouldn't of done. The Lib Dems going back on scrapping tuition fees to trippling them (!) and the Tories, well I just don't see them as a party for anyone but the mega rich.
Just before reading this post I only just realised that I wasn't on the politics thread for LBC!