And hopefully the core Apple base who have stuck with Apple for years leave and go elsewhere and show Apple they can't just churn out any old rubbish and expect a profit.
And hopefully the core Apple base who have stuck with Apple for years leave and go elsewhere and show Apple they can't just churn out any old rubbish and expect a profit.
When Scott Forstall was cuckooed out of the Apple nest, that allowed Jony Ive to take full control of the iOS design process and iOS 7 was the result. It's revolutionary rather than evolutionary and it's certainly a step away from the original Jobs/Forstall way of doing things.
The initial online response from Apple users appears to be one of polarisation - quite a few like it but many hate it. Even if it is downloaded, l can see quite a bit of jailbreaking taking place!
HTC One is the poster child for Android right now.... but if you're not desperate for an app for everything I'd take a look at the Windows Phones. They're very zippy.
HTC One is the poster child for Android right now.... but if you're not desperate for an app for everything I'd take a look at the Windows Phones. They're very zippy.
I'm not fussed about specs more usability. The Xperia Z and Z10 Blackberry stand out for me?
Very pleased to see a call blocking feature included. The icing on the cake would be for safari to allow plug-ins so that people can develop decent ad-blocking software.
That's my one major gripe with that - some sites are virtually unusable due to the pop up ads and the diverts to the app store.
I think you need to get your hands on it to really form a more meaningful opinion but my initial impression is that it certainly looks fresher and cooler than IOS 6.
But as for Philip Schiller's punchy "can't innovate any more - my ass" line, I'm struggling to see *any* major innovation in anything Apple introduced yesterday. In terms of them working within their own little bubble, yes - they're bringing in new things. Unfortunately, it's all been done before by others and in some cases, quite some time ago. Unless, of course, we're expected to believe that redecorating and rearranging the furniture now passes for innovation.
I think you need to get your hands on it to really form a more meaningful opinion but my initial impression is that it certainly looks fresher and cooler than IOS 6.
But as for Philip Schiller's punchy "can't innovate any more - my ass" line, I'm struggling to see *any* major innovation in anything Apple introduced yesterday. In terms of them working within their own little bubble, yes - they're bringing in new things. Unfortunately, it's all been done before by others and in some cases, quite some time ago. Unless, of course, we're expected to believe that redecorating and rearranging the furniture now passes for innovation.
Think he was referring to the Mac Pro. But all we really got was a sneak preview of it. Interestingly they've succumbed to massive political pressure and are building it in the US this time. But it will no doubt ship in low volumes and be extremely expensive. http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/
Think he was referring to the Mac Pro. But all we really got was a sneak preview of it. Interestingly they've succumbed to massive political pressure and are building it in the US this time. But it will no doubt ship in low volumes and be extremely expensive. http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/
I think you're probably right - here's some more pics of it. I'm not sure whether it's innovation but there's definitely something rather Darth Vaderish about it.
I've got an old Mac Pro (5 years) which I'll be looking to replace within the next 2-3 years but fan noise is a major consideration. So when they say there's a ruddy great fan at the top of this beast I am a tad concerned. Also 4 USB ports and 5 lightning ports? Do Apple know something about device connectivity that we don't?
Apologies for derailing the thread - back where you were with IOS 7...
I think iOS7 looks really nice and has some good features (which, quite frankly I don't care if Android have them, I've never used Android so it matters not a jot to me).
One of my biggest wishes has now come about, in that app folders now have pages in them so you can store more icons in less folders. Also, control centre will be very good. The one hand control gesture for moving between your email inbox and the mail control sidebar, and likewise in iMessage, I think is very good. Airdrop is a very good inclusion, but just a shame as a 4S and iPad3 user I won't get to use it.
The icon design looks fresh and clean and I'm so glad they retained the row and column arrangement as that suits me perfectly (I like straight lines and order).
iTunes Radio looks pretty good too, and as an iTunes Match subscriber, I will have it ad free.
I'm undecided on the photo album upgrade, but I think it will be clearer when using it than was able to be demonstrated.
So, from being an bit aprehensive that iOS was going to change into something I didn't like, I think Apple have moved it on, improved it. When it's released, it really will be like having a new phone all over again, and I cannot wait until Autumn when it's released.
One last point. Watching the whole of WWDC last night (much to the annoyance of my wife) it is very clear that many of the best features throughout the Apple product range (not just iDevices) are intended for cross-product syncing. To get the best out of the ecosystem, it really needs you to buy into that ecosystem completely. So, for people who have just one device, many of these features are of no use and hence why it may appear (to those people) that there aren't many innovative features. Just a thought.
One last point. Watching the whole of WWDC last night (much to the annoyance of my wife) it is very clear that many of the best features throughout the Apple product range (not just iDevices) are intended for cross-product syncing. To get the best out of the ecosystem, it really needs you to buy into that ecosystem completely. So, for people who have just one device, many of these features are of no use and hence why it may appear (to those people) that there aren't many innovative features. Just a thought.
Yes there was a lot of cross product stuff, which is good to see, but it's what Google has been doing for a long time, and theirs is cross platform, not just on their own hardware (even to a certain extent on iOS). It's an improvement for Apple customers, but the measure of innovation is against their competitors, who already offer most of the new features you look forward to.
Yes there was a lot of cross product stuff, which is good to see, but it's what Google has been doing for a long time, and theirs is cross platform, not just on their own hardware (even to a certain extent on iOS). It's an improvement for Apple customers, but the measure of innovation is against their competitors, who already offer most of the new features you look forward to.
Fair enough, but on an iOS device, it is so much easier to use inbuilt systems than to open up a 3rd party system. Apart from web searches. I never use Google services at all (I was interested in Google Now but read reports of how poor it was on iOS so I didn't bother). To be blunt, I don't really care if all of these features are available on Android, I only care about iOS and what features I can expect to use on my iDevices.
Lets not forget, mobile OSs are now a mature industry, so the early days of fantastic leaps in features we saw in the early days of iOS and Android are long gone. It's just the nature of any industry. For example, when Ford first brought out the new Focus many years ago, a lot of people got very excited, but there isn't really any excitement now each time the model is redesigned (except for motor-heads). It's the same with OSs, whenever someone on any forum tries to explain what super features would really make them excited, the lists are not usually very long. It won't be long before the new features of ANY OS update will be minimal and it will just be about doing the same thing better.
I don't think we at the apex of OS design and functionality, any more than we had reached a point where 'everything that can be invented has been invented' (attributed to a patent officer) in 1902.
I got to have a play with iOS 7 today at work, and i do really like it. But whats funny is that NONE of the changes are original. They are all copies of either Android or even Windows phone 8 :eek:. Seriously, apple is now copying even Windows phone 8!.
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Try Iphone 5 up for sale soon on ebay.
Any recommendations on what I can get instead?
And hopefully the core Apple base who have stuck with Apple for years leave and go elsewhere and show Apple they can't just churn out any old rubbish and expect a profit.
When Scott Forstall was cuckooed out of the Apple nest, that allowed Jony Ive to take full control of the iOS design process and iOS 7 was the result. It's revolutionary rather than evolutionary and it's certainly a step away from the original Jobs/Forstall way of doing things.
The initial online response from Apple users appears to be one of polarisation - quite a few like it but many hate it. Even if it is downloaded, l can see quite a bit of jailbreaking taking place!
HTC One is the poster child for Android right now.... but if you're not desperate for an app for everything I'd take a look at the Windows Phones. They're very zippy.
Here you go: http://tinypic.com/r/vsjtk3/5
In terms of operation it's completely transparent. There is no indication that a blocked contact has attempted to contact you.
Still just 3G it seems.
I'm not fussed about specs more usability. The Xperia Z and Z10 Blackberry stand out for me?
Blackberry looks very much IOS like.
That's my one major gripe with that - some sites are virtually unusable due to the pop up ads and the diverts to the app store.
But as for Philip Schiller's punchy "can't innovate any more - my ass" line, I'm struggling to see *any* major innovation in anything Apple introduced yesterday. In terms of them working within their own little bubble, yes - they're bringing in new things. Unfortunately, it's all been done before by others and in some cases, quite some time ago. Unless, of course, we're expected to believe that redecorating and rearranging the furniture now passes for innovation.
BTW - apologies if the link has already been posted, but here's Ive talking about IOS 7.
I think you're probably right - here's some more pics of it. I'm not sure whether it's innovation but there's definitely something rather Darth Vaderish about it.
I've got an old Mac Pro (5 years) which I'll be looking to replace within the next 2-3 years but fan noise is a major consideration. So when they say there's a ruddy great fan at the top of this beast I am a tad concerned. Also 4 USB ports and 5 lightning ports? Do Apple know something about device connectivity that we don't?
Apologies for derailing the thread - back where you were with IOS 7...
Looks good Lucan. How come you have carrier 14.5 for EE. Is that part of iOS 7?
Does Sky Go work on iOS 7 if you happen to use it? I am going to install iOS 7 in the next couple of days
One of my biggest wishes has now come about, in that app folders now have pages in them so you can store more icons in less folders. Also, control centre will be very good. The one hand control gesture for moving between your email inbox and the mail control sidebar, and likewise in iMessage, I think is very good. Airdrop is a very good inclusion, but just a shame as a 4S and iPad3 user I won't get to use it.
The icon design looks fresh and clean and I'm so glad they retained the row and column arrangement as that suits me perfectly (I like straight lines and order).
iTunes Radio looks pretty good too, and as an iTunes Match subscriber, I will have it ad free.
I'm undecided on the photo album upgrade, but I think it will be clearer when using it than was able to be demonstrated.
So, from being an bit aprehensive that iOS was going to change into something I didn't like, I think Apple have moved it on, improved it. When it's released, it really will be like having a new phone all over again, and I cannot wait until Autumn when it's released.
One last point. Watching the whole of WWDC last night (much to the annoyance of my wife) it is very clear that many of the best features throughout the Apple product range (not just iDevices) are intended for cross-product syncing. To get the best out of the ecosystem, it really needs you to buy into that ecosystem completely. So, for people who have just one device, many of these features are of no use and hence why it may appear (to those people) that there aren't many innovative features. Just a thought.
Yes there was a lot of cross product stuff, which is good to see, but it's what Google has been doing for a long time, and theirs is cross platform, not just on their own hardware (even to a certain extent on iOS). It's an improvement for Apple customers, but the measure of innovation is against their competitors, who already offer most of the new features you look forward to.
Fair enough, but on an iOS device, it is so much easier to use inbuilt systems than to open up a 3rd party system. Apart from web searches. I never use Google services at all (I was interested in Google Now but read reports of how poor it was on iOS so I didn't bother). To be blunt, I don't really care if all of these features are available on Android, I only care about iOS and what features I can expect to use on my iDevices.
Lets not forget, mobile OSs are now a mature industry, so the early days of fantastic leaps in features we saw in the early days of iOS and Android are long gone. It's just the nature of any industry. For example, when Ford first brought out the new Focus many years ago, a lot of people got very excited, but there isn't really any excitement now each time the model is redesigned (except for motor-heads). It's the same with OSs, whenever someone on any forum tries to explain what super features would really make them excited, the lists are not usually very long. It won't be long before the new features of ANY OS update will be minimal and it will just be about doing the same thing better.
Because i'm special ha! No. it's just the iOS7 carrier update (it needs to be Beta tested too mind)
As for Sky Go (had to deregister and register the phone again) it does work.
http://i.imgur.com/xnSbZIo.png
And for the person who asked for the call blocking feature.. see below.
http://i.imgur.com/7wUrcAM.png
http://i.imgur.com/C1uxwFm.png
Best go do some work now :rolleyes:
Three sales number will be going straight on that list once I'm on iOS7
That was probably me, so thankyou
Very happy to have that feature available. Can you hear me Lowells ?
If you get a chance, does Safari look like it can accept plug-ins? Or does it have anything along the lines of decent ad-blocking?