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5 live: pushing away audience
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OK age 40 male and have listened to 5 live for ages.
Recent(ish) changes:
1. Nicky Campbell creeping past 9 am with a debate ugh.
2. VDerbyshire doing "music" reviews.
3. Losing the 12-13 news slot (its lame but it gave a break between am and pm programming.)
4. The seeming defacto Colin Murray replacement being lined up for Mayo.
What am I to do?
I must be dropping out of the target audience as all the above seem to be making me switch over/off more and more.
Any chance of:
1. getting rid of Campbell altogether. Let him do more TV.
2. borrow Colin Murray somewhere off to learn how to speak. Its not his accent, he seems overawed.
2a. Colin Patterson or Julian Worricker back for Mayo when he has to go?
3. play vibraphone music between 12 and 1pm.
2c. or beg Mayo to keep going until the economy improves and I can find an office job.
Is it just me?
Who are these changes designed for?
Where is 5 going?
Recent(ish) changes:
1. Nicky Campbell creeping past 9 am with a debate ugh.
2. VDerbyshire doing "music" reviews.
3. Losing the 12-13 news slot (its lame but it gave a break between am and pm programming.)
4. The seeming defacto Colin Murray replacement being lined up for Mayo.
What am I to do?
I must be dropping out of the target audience as all the above seem to be making me switch over/off more and more.
Any chance of:
1. getting rid of Campbell altogether. Let him do more TV.
2. borrow Colin Murray somewhere off to learn how to speak. Its not his accent, he seems overawed.
2a. Colin Patterson or Julian Worricker back for Mayo when he has to go?
3. play vibraphone music between 12 and 1pm.
2c. or beg Mayo to keep going until the economy improves and I can find an office job.
Is it just me?
Who are these changes designed for?
Where is 5 going?
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Try BBC World Service. No bawling Yobs and very professionally put across.
One baffling aspect is why Rhod Sharp stays on 'Up All Night' when he is one of the few people who can interact and thus stimulate interviews.
I think an evening in the pub with Peter Allen could be rather good actually. Invite Alex Lester from Radio 2 as well.
Though Derbyshire can stay in the wine bar with a frappachino frascati or whatever it is girls drink these days.
Rhod imo is a broadcasters "broadcaster" unlike shouty Dalton/Dotun Adebayo
No, Dotun is a legend in my opinion!
Can't stand Rod - I SO wish I was from the US - Sharp.
Seeing Rhod lives for a good period of time over there then yes!:D
I don't mind Derbyshire or Campbell and like Shelagh Fogarty and Colin Murray. But Richard Bacon is unlistenable to and Worricker is about as exciting as a bus stop conversation.
Most of what has been said on this thread is how I and quite a few long term listeners of Radio 5 feel(though I respect the alternative views of k-bola and kimindex)
Though I agree with k-bola regarding Bacon:Dwho is filling in for Mayo next week:eek:
One can only wonder what the station will sound like when it relocates. Of course Radio 5 might be able to show that it is doing well using statitistics...
Rhod and Dotun are the ying and yang of UAN. They complete each other. Yes, Dotun can elicit more ambivalence than the avuncular, benevolent Rhod, but I wouldn't replace either of them.
I agree with the overall thrust of your post. So other listeners also dislike Campbell? Thought I was alone...
Colin Murray is the opposite of over-awed, IMO. Did you hear Fighting Talk last weekend? You don't need to like sports to enjoy it. Anyway, during the quiz Murray got into a verbal spat with some loutish Arsenal fan (might have been a former pro, I forget). Things got genuinely heated, and Murray faced him down really well. It was funny listening but also a bit unnerving at the same time. I like his persona, but when he's in for Mayo I think the range of topics he's comfortable with is limited compared to his senior. The potential is there for me for a solid 1-4 run, though.
Derbyshire is only slightly preferable to nails scraping down a blackbaord. And Mayo needs more stimulants -he's beginning to sound a bit run-down and, frankly, bored. Not a good vibe for radio.
I gave up on 5 live years ago.
Personally i never liked Mayo. He was the reason i switched off R1 back in the 80's
The real thing that drove me away though was the obsession with Sport. Even during serious phone in's or discussions they break away for a live report on the colour of Beckhams tie today or some long winded report on a football manager.
It never happens during sport coverage though.
As for Nicky Campbell, I understand why people don't like him - he has a very arrogant manner - but as far as the phone in goes, at least he actually interracts with the callers; A lot of phone in hosts just seem to switch off when the caller is speaking: They let them make their point then move on to the next in line without even responding, which makes me wonder why they bother asking people to call in.
I don't listen to Victoria Derbyshire or Richard Bacon or Stephen Nolan though, I can't stand any of them - I wish they'd bring back Fi Glover, who had a great presenting style, imo.
BTW - Did anyone hear Eamonn Holmes' jibe this morning that he'd probably be on Talksport next season? I take it he's been axed completely by 5live?
That wouldnt impress Derbyshire at all for obvious reasons
Poor old Holmes only having 2 jobs
I am crying into my milk:D
Oh dear! I am 72, but my DAB radio is usually set to R5Live. I am in sympathy with the general thrust of this theme.
The BBC seem to be trying to find presenters from all corners of the UK, eg. N Ireland, or those with very strong regional accents. Interestingly, not included is the West Country accent.
As long as 'subtitles' are not required, I welcome this variety.
What effect will the move to Manchester have?
However, the most important aspect is ..are they able to hold a show together, and/or deal with the phone-in? Reading the contributions, I have the impression we are not that impressed with the current crop of presenters or programe direction.
Whither R5live indeed?
Nicky Campbell might be very arrogant and full of himself, but at least he seems to know what he's talking about and engages with this listener.
Victoria Derbyshire is by far the worst and most irritating presenter for me on 5 Live with her constant babbling on about football, and her endless football phone-ins. That, and her ghastly pc and patronising attitude and ignorance on so many other subjects. The classic moment was about 6 months ago when she had Sir Alan Sugar on her programme, whom you could hear openly seething after she asked him one dumb question after the next. Eventually he walked out on her in the middle of the interview. Well done SAS!
Some people seem to have a problem with Steve Nolan, but I've always found him to be rather good. Peter Allen, Anita Arnand and Simon Mayo are all very listenable, so one needs to be rather selective with 5 Live.
I was fed up listening to the Monaco Grand Prix qualifying today when they kept interrupting it to give the latest news on the football. Surely it could have waited until the gaps in the qualifying?
Was it really that important a football match that it should interrupt the qualifying for the indisputably most exiting race of the Formula 1 season.
Great scenery but no overtaking. The most boring procession of the season
I don't agree. It's the one track that shows the driver's skill rather than the car's technicalities.
And there is overtaking, and a large portion of crashes which make it all the more exciting.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
(Hope you're right as it will make it a better watch ).
The only crashes I remember were caused by driver error and not overtaking manouvers
It'll be a huge shame when Simon Mayo goes - his show is the pick of the non-sports weekday output for me. I'm not convinced Colin Murray will be the replacement, given that he's got a regular gig on Five Live Sport a couple of days a week from next season.
Stephen Nolan really annoys me - he's the one person on the station that I refuse to listen to. However, I can understand how his style will be popular with others.
I do love the sport output - both Five Live Sport and Test Match Special. I'm pleased they'll be making more use of Mark Pougatch again, but Mark Saggers will be a big loss.
Have no issues with Richard Bacon, and hardly ever up late enough for Up All Night.
One thing I've always wondered is why it took so long for Phil Williams to get a regular slot - which he now has with weekend breakfast.
I'm not a troll. Just a first time poster.
You're right about horses for courses. It just seems I like fewer and fewer of the presenters. Nolan=no Murry=no
VD=okish Bacon=okish PAllen=value laughs Arnand=no Mayo=Yes.
I think I'm just drifting away from the audience profile but I find R4 too stuffy.
Womens hour is good,
Mid week makes my bile rise (mid for middle class)
In our time is excellent
Gone off Archers years ago
Eddie Mair thinks he's 'kin' god's supercilious special second coming!!!
Fi Glover is up herself after tripping to the US
Thinking aloud good
etc etc
I just want inoffensive interesting wallpaper radio. I don't need Eddie-ferk-ation.