Kenny Everett went from ITV to the BBC, and he must be the only person I can think of whose ITV shows were better than his BBC ones.
I'd also add Les Dawson, whose programmes for YTV were better than the similar sketch shows he then did for the BBC before Blankety Blank. The same can be said for Stanley Baxter whose LWT shows somehow seemed more innovative than the ones he later did for the BBC (incidentally Baxter was on the BBC with a rather low budget sketch show before he went to LWT).
Don't forget the Monty Python crew were originally on Rediffusion, albeit split amongst two shows.
Couple of chefs who went from BBC to C4
Jamie Oliver started off on the BBC
Not sure if Heston started on the BBC. I think he had a series on Discovery.
But he made it as a celeb chef on the beeb and went off to C4.
Nowadays you see the same lot on the main channels so I guess it's now because they are freelance instead of payroll.
Yes, that seems to be the case. I did a double take when Jacqui Oatley turned up presenting an ITV FA Cup programme one night, then was back on the BBC doing a women's football item a week or so later. It's just something we'll get used to in time.
The official reason given for Morecambe and Wise moving back to the BBC in 1967 (they were at first on BBC2) was that their programmes could be made in colour while ITV stayed in black-and-white until the end of 1969.ATV did have colour facilities at Elstree where they made a number of colour programmes for the US market including some Tom Jones spectaculars. But Lew Grade never offered Morecambe and Wise the opportunity.
The official reason given for Morecambe and Wise moving back to the BBC in 1967 (they were at first on BBC2) was that their programmes could be made in colour while ITV stayed in black-and-white until the end of 1969.ATV did have colour facilities at Elstree where they made a number of colour programmes for the US market including some Tom Jones spectaculars. But Lew Grade never offered Morecambe and Wise the opportunity.
Neither you or I were in that meeting, but it's clear that even if ATV had produced M&W's show in colour (which might have been possible) they didn't have the facility to show it in the UK in colour. I'm not even sure that by 1967 it had been confirmed what date BBC 1 and ITV would be in colour ?
The official reason given for Morecambe and Wise moving back to the BBC in 1967 (they were at first on BBC2) was that their programmes could be made in colour while ITV stayed in black-and-white until the end of 1969.ATV did have colour facilities at Elstree where they made a number of colour programmes for the US market including some Tom Jones spectaculars. But Lew Grade never offered Morecambe and Wise the opportunity.[/QUOT
I never understood why they criticised Lew Grade for this he could not have transmitted it in colour in the UK until Nov 1969. It was out of his hands.
Neither you or I were in that meeting, but it's clear that even if ATV had produced M&W's show in colour (which might have been possible) they didn't have the facility to show it in the UK in colour. I'm not even sure that by 1967 it had been confirmed what date BBC 1 and ITV would be in colour ?
In 1967 the ITA (as was) announced a new franchise round in 1968 and said then the companies would be required to broadcast in colour.
There is also another point that ATV could now longer guaranty it would be shown in London on a Saturday night as LWT had other programs in mind for Saturday nights
Christine Bleakley's career totally collapsed when she moved to ITV. Both programmes she appeared in were cancelled and apart from the odd little watched entertainment show, she does nothing now.
One who was successful in his move from the BBC to ITV was Jim Rosenthal, a sports presenter and commentator on Radio 2 who was offered a big deal with ITV Sport in 1982. He started off on the soon to be cancelled World of Sport, but soon established a reputation as an athletics, boxing and football presenter and in his 28 years with ITV Sport presented Formula 1, two Rugby World Cups, the 1988 Olympics as well as the three main sports he was best known for.
Christine Bleakley's career totally collapsed when she moved to ITV. Both programmes she appeared in were cancelled and apart from the odd little watched entertainment show, she does nothing now.
One who was successful in his move from the BBC to ITV was Jim Rosenthal, a sports presenter and commentator on Radio 2 who was offered a big deal with ITV Sport in 1982. He started off on the soon to be cancelled World of Sport, but soon established a reputation as an athletics, boxing and football presenter and in his 28 years with ITV Sport presented Formula 1, two Rugby World Cups, the 1988 Olympics as well as the three main sports he was best known for.
Derek Thompson and Brian Moore are two other examples that spring to mind
Never did understand why we in London had Thames TV weekdays and London Weekend TV from Friday 7pm to Sunday.
The ITA split the franchise because they feared one company for seven days a week would make too much money ! Ironic when you think ITV came close to financial disaster in the early few years. The Midlands (ABC/ATV) and the North (Granada/ABC) also had split franchises. The original London franchise was divided between Associated Rediffusion (weekdays) and ATV (weekends) which explains why ATV had the Elstree studios, eventually sold to the BBC.
David Dickinson
Trinny and Susannah - who sank without trace
Antony Worral Thompson - took the whole BBC Cooking show to ITV on a Saturday morning, BBC recruited James Martin and carried on as if nothing had happened - AWT dismal failure, replaced by repeats of Murder She Wrote
Julia Bradbury seems to have vanished without trace
oh and Ben Elton - that total piece of shite he did with Alexa Chung who has so few brain cells you can see them jiggle when she flutters her eyelashes
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I'd also add Les Dawson, whose programmes for YTV were better than the similar sketch shows he then did for the BBC before Blankety Blank. The same can be said for Stanley Baxter whose LWT shows somehow seemed more innovative than the ones he later did for the BBC (incidentally Baxter was on the BBC with a rather low budget sketch show before he went to LWT).
Don't forget the Monty Python crew were originally on Rediffusion, albeit split amongst two shows.
Jamie Oliver started off on the BBC
Not sure if Heston started on the BBC. I think he had a series on Discovery.
But he made it as a celeb chef on the beeb and went off to C4.
& soon simon cowell from itv to bbc that is
what in relation to cowell
Same production company/staff I think.
Similar to SFTW with hosts & staff from BBC to Sunday Brunch on C4.
Yes, that seems to be the case. I did a double take when Jacqui Oatley turned up presenting an ITV FA Cup programme one night, then was back on the BBC doing a women's football item a week or so later. It's just something we'll get used to in time.
not to mention a furore when Cleo Rocos appeared as a dominatrix in one show. [/QUOTE]
Although he's still on Radio 1
Neither you or I were in that meeting, but it's clear that even if ATV had produced M&W's show in colour (which might have been possible) they didn't have the facility to show it in the UK in colour. I'm not even sure that by 1967 it had been confirmed what date BBC 1 and ITV would be in colour ?
In 1967 the ITA (as was) announced a new franchise round in 1968 and said then the companies would be required to broadcast in colour.
DId they ? So when did the Postmaster General confirm the date for colour on ITV ? Quote some verifiable links please ?
In any case m&w wanted to be seen in colour ASAP, in other words 67/68
One who was successful in his move from the BBC to ITV was Jim Rosenthal, a sports presenter and commentator on Radio 2 who was offered a big deal with ITV Sport in 1982. He started off on the soon to be cancelled World of Sport, but soon established a reputation as an athletics, boxing and football presenter and in his 28 years with ITV Sport presented Formula 1, two Rugby World Cups, the 1988 Olympics as well as the three main sports he was best known for.
Derek Thompson and Brian Moore are two other examples that spring to mind
The ITA split the franchise because they feared one company for seven days a week would make too much money ! Ironic when you think ITV came close to financial disaster in the early few years. The Midlands (ABC/ATV) and the North (Granada/ABC) also had split franchises. The original London franchise was divided between Associated Rediffusion (weekdays) and ATV (weekends) which explains why ATV had the Elstree studios, eventually sold to the BBC.
Oh, yes, Richard Hammond did have an ITV afternoon chat show.
Trinny and Susannah - who sank without trace
Antony Worral Thompson - took the whole BBC Cooking show to ITV on a Saturday morning, BBC recruited James Martin and carried on as if nothing had happened - AWT dismal failure, replaced by repeats of Murder She Wrote
Julia Bradbury seems to have vanished without trace
oh and Ben Elton - that total piece of shite he did with Alexa Chung who has so few brain cells you can see them jiggle when she flutters her eyelashes