Richard lll : The King in the Carpark C4 Monday

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  • Richard1960Richard1960 Posts: 20,336
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    normal service resumes.

    Yes sadly so.
  • EnglishspinnerEnglishspinner Posts: 6,132
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    lunar 1 wrote: »
    i know nothing about richard and watched the programe by accident, and honestly the whole thing looked completely fake, by the end i was thinking maybe the mad woman had him all along and staged the whole thing

    As others have said More 4 is showing David Starkey's take on this period of English History, as we speak.
  • Richard1960Richard1960 Posts: 20,336
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    planets wrote: »
    probably edited by the same team

    :D:D who knows i qute enjoyed tonights show though.
  • Fairyprincess0Fairyprincess0 Posts: 30,037
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    Those wanting newsnight to do a more serious piece might be a bit disapointed
  • jj2jj2 Posts: 4,135
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    hooter wrote: »
    He`s dead love...don`t think he`ll object do you? Anyways, don`t they all worship the same god?
    Would you reburied a Jewish skeleton as a Christian, just because he was long dead and couldn't object . Think of the of the hornets nest that would stir up
  • hooterhooter Posts: 30,206
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    lunar 1 wrote: »
    i know nothing about richard and watched the programe by accident, and honestly the whole thing looked completely fake, by the end i was thinking maybe the mad woman had him all along and staged the whole thing

    You should have watched the Richard III night on Saturday...it made very interesting viewing.
  • Keren-HappuchKeren-Happuch Posts: 2,171
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    This had made me laughing so much I nearly missed seeing the actual reconstruction. :D
    Tenner say she starts tounging the bust.

    Ha I did think for a moment when Philippa said "you could almost...." I thought she was going to add "snog him." :D
    I don't recall us ever covering Richard III in history lessons at primary or secondary school. We only ever did Henry VIII and Queen Victoria when it came to the royals.

    I did the Wars of the Roses at primary school. I was very much Team Lancaster at the time as I bought into all the hype about Richard being a tyrant. And I was 8 and obsessed with the Tudors, so of course I wanted Henry VII to win. Even now I know very little about Richard but this has definitely made me want to find out more about him.

    This programme was seriously weird. Philippa Langley does come across as being pretty bonkers but fair play to her for funding it all and being so passionate about it. The curly haired guy was irritating. I hope someone does a proper documentary soon.
  • Richard1960Richard1960 Posts: 20,336
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    As others have said More 4 is showing David Starkey's take on this period of English History, as we speak.

    Probably too heavy going for people who complained a lot on here however i would be delighted if Kolin Klingon is watching although its probably not likely.;)
  • sunnypicklessunnypickles Posts: 202
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    I am watching this on cannel 4 +1 and was really looking forward to watching it, but so far I am not enjoying this program at all. I just cannot warm to it and the way that something so important to history is portrayed! Bring back time team specials with a balanced and well thought out arguments and story telling rather than the ramblings of that mad woman and her special feelings! :eek: We have been so spoilt with time team and we expect more from Channel 4 rather than something that feels like i am watching a mockumentry or a louis theroux documentary! I cannot feel excited about the whole process as the presenter is dreary and dull, I love for a bit of Tony Robinson and how he can inject some excitement, oh look the only excitement i can raise is that they sent him to my old university and to the department i studied my degree in!:cool:
  • planetsplanets Posts: 47,784
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    :D:D who knows i qute enjoyed tonights show though.

    there was interesting stuff, badly served by the programme makers

    oh god newsnight are interviewing an ACTOR because he's going to be an expert on history what is wrong with programme makers are they all braindead 14 year olds????
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,252
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    I have just been doing a bit of reasearch and according to my detective work Jimmy Hoffa is burried in my back garden.
    Do I get £10,000.
  • hooterhooter Posts: 30,206
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    jj2 wrote: »
    Would you reburied a Jewish skeleton as a Christian, just because he was long dead and couldn't object . Think of the of the hornets nest that would stir up

    Apparently it`s the custom is to bury any skeletons found in the nearest consecrated ground
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 686
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    As others have said More 4 is showing David Starkey's take on this period of English History, as we speak.

    iv'e put it on but i find these hard to watch as its all speculation really when it comes down to it
  • 19Nick6819Nick68 Posts: 1,792
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    Needed a bit more science and a few less ad breaks. Very interesting but could have been so much better.
  • late8late8 Posts: 7,175
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    OK so I now have a feeling the whole thing is a fake! The grand TV conn in history. Things have been done like this before!

    It was so bad and that daft "comedian" presenter so in true I left the program feeling like it is April 1st.

    Seriously what the hell is going on?

    Also what happened to the second DNA result the BBC mentioned? Apparently 2 people were found. The Canadian guy and someone who wanted to remain anonymous!
  • TiggywinkTiggywink Posts: 3,687
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    They never said anything at all about why the R3 Society is trying to rehabilitate Richard's reputation. I would have thought that that was really important. Otherwise non-historians must have been wondering the whole time what the hell this was all about.

    Like you all say, Ch4 messed up a chance to make this an engrossing story. Instead they used a muppet to present it and put Philippa in a bad light. Jeez.
  • Richard1960Richard1960 Posts: 20,336
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    planets wrote: »
    there was interesting stuff, badly served by the programme makers

    oh god newsnight are interviewing an ACTOR because he's going to be an expert on history what is wrong with programme makers are they all braindead 14 year olds????

    Not watching it at the moment am watching David Starkeys take on the period on more 4 at preesnt weighty stuff indeed.

    Like the take on programme makers though.:D
  • Jen-BJen-B Posts: 3,412
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    I am watching this on cannel 4 +1 and was really looking forward to watching it, but so far I am not enjoying this program at all. I just cannot warm to it and the way that something so important to history is portrayed! Bring back time team specials with a balanced and well thought out arguments and story telling rather than the ramblings of that mad woman and her special feelings! :eek: We have been so spoilt with time team and we expect more from Channel 4 rather than something that feels like i am watching a mockumentry or a louis theroux documentary! I cannot feel excited about the whole process as the presenter is dreary and dull, I love for a bit of Tony Robinson and how he can inject some excitement, oh look the only excitement i can raise is that they sent him to my old university and to the department i studied my degree in!:cool:

    That's one good thing that's come out of this documentary, I suppose: a massive appreciation for everything that Time Team did over the years. Informative, interesting, and appealing.

    Tony Robinson and Time Team: the national campaign to bring it back starts here....


    :D
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 686
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    hooter wrote: »
    You should have watched the Richard III night on Saturday...it made very interesting viewing.

    is that the film they referred to
  • late8late8 Posts: 7,175
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    Wow the Blond Dr on Newsnight is HOT!
  • planetsplanets Posts: 47,784
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    late8 wrote: »
    OK so I now have a feeling the whole thing is a fake! The grandest conn in history. Things have been done like this before!

    It was so bad and that daft "comedian" presenter so in true I left the program feeling like it is April 1st.

    Seriously what the hell is going on?

    Also what happened to the second DNA result the BBC mentioned? Apparently 2 people were found. The Canadian guy and someone who wanted to remain anonymous!

    the second dna sample was taken from another descendant who wanted to remain anonymous having two mitochondrial dna results to match against makes it "beyond reasonable doubt" as stated by the dna specialist when they announced it.
  • CadivaCadiva Posts: 18,409
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    Even now I know very little about Richard but this has definitely made me want to find out more about him.

    Have a read of any of those books I mentioned earlier, I'd recommend you start with David Baldwin's Richard III (published by Amberley Publishing in Feb last year so only available in hardback atm if I remember rightly) or Annette Carson's Richard III: The Maligned King, which examines all the many varied rumours surrounding him and his reign.
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    i'm going to bed, its been to much lol
    night night
  • planetsplanets Posts: 47,784
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    Not watching it at the moment am watching David Starkeys take on the period on more 4 at preesnt weighty stuff indeed.

    Like the take on programme makers though.:D

    i'm sure i watched the Starkey programme before is it a repeat?

    don't watch the newsnight they are now interviewing Richard Eyre ffs and talking about "what are the best lines in the play" and ian mckellan it beggars belief....
  • Richard1960Richard1960 Posts: 20,336
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    lunar 1 wrote: »
    i'm going to bed, its been to much lol
    night night

    What not even bothering to see Dr David Satrkeys serious take on this period on more4.:eek:

    Looking forward to Kolin Klingons take on it.:D
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