Cheryl was upset during final because she sacrificed Rebecca!
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She realized the mistake she made. She sacrificed Rebecca to get Cher in the finals. Then when Rebecca made it in and Cher didn't, she changed the song from "Single Ladies" to a more suitable song "Sweet Dreams". However, it was all too late to change the boring single.
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Imo Cheryl sacrificed Rebecca for Matt. I noticed that Cheryl was rooting for Matt a lot and even did high fives with Dannii and the moment that she mouthed "wow" when Matt sang the first time. Why though? Because if Matt won than Dannii will most likely stay for another year. I'm positive that they wanted to give Dannii the ax for Nicole which is a threat for Cheryl.
At least that is the feeling that I got since like week 4 or 5. I kept noticing how Cheryl was favoring Matt and every time he got through she was extremely happy.
I sort of agree with that. However, I don't think that was the reason that she wanted Dannii to stay. It was quite obvious this series that the two have started to really get along and become quite close friends unlike previous years so I think that she would prefer Dannii to stay than Nicole who will probably not get along with her. Although, your story may be more possible.
I had Matt and Rebecca as the obvious final two from Auditions. Matt really jumped miles ahead of the competition and was the deserving winner. Cheryl would know this.
Although there there are judges and they have to mentor their given acts, it doesn't mean that ultimately all judges are in doubt about the eventual winner.
Just like Simon and Louis, Cheryl knew beyond a shadow of a doubt who was the Winner.
I'd love to know the real story about Cheryl and Rebecca but we probably never will. I do think that Cheryl resented her for whatever reason. She may have resented her being a producer's favourite and she may have been arrogant enough to think that she could force Cher upon us.
In fact, Cowell kept Cher in long after the public demanded she get the boot and Rebecca did reach the final as, I think, Cowell expected so Cheryl achieved absolutely nothing. She cannot take credit for Cher going far further than she should have done and she certainly cannot take credit for Rebecca reaching the final.
I could be wrong but I do think that Rebecca became something of a football and suffered through the tensions of the Cowell - Cole dynamic. I'd put this down to Cheryl's vanity and lack of intelligence, nothing more and as you allude to yourelf, I think Cheryl did feel bad and realise eventually that she had let Rebecca down a bit, long after it became obvious to everybody else.
I think Cheryl was the biggest loser in this year's show. I think her halo slipped more than a little bit and I doubt her reputation is as high behind the scenes as many would think.
You are possibly right. We don't know the extent to which the show is scripted. Things like the Cheryöl 'wow' comment are clearly scripted as the cameras seem to capture them too perfectly and it is a live broadcast so they're not being edited in. Cheryl did praise Matt very highly. If I were a mentor / judge, I would not go overboard on praising contestants other than my own, regardless of their talent, unless I was forced to and maybe that is what happens. I'm just a loyalty type of person and competitive but then we all have our price, we all need to work for a living and the X Factor is a pantomime so...
Is it fair? not really but It's something all the judges did. I don't think Cheryl thought that Cher would win but you could see really cared about Cher and wanted her to do well. The judges like all of us seem to have their favourites.
She looks unhappy to me.
I was sat behind the centre camera at the second live show (you can see me when the lights come down) and there was a 'script' for camera shots on it (where to frame and where, dependent on the performance), so don't be so sure that it wasn't a planned 'wow' everyone (though I realise it is highly unlikely).
Honestly i always thought the "wow" was planned and this is from a Matt fan!!!! after on xtra factor we heard about Cheryls "wow", everything about xfactor is planned and scripted and every year it gets more obvious and pathetic/cringy.
I think it was planned and right on cue. There were lots of other examples wehich I'm struggling to recall right now where I thought it was really obvious. The camera tended to switch to the judges and right on cue there'd be a set piece moment, be it a look, a tear, an exchange or whatever. I agree, totally obvious and totally naff.
If she really didn't like Rebecca or wanted to expose her, she'd have made Rebecca dance & do some uptempo numbers, and poor Rebecca would have literally fallen flat on her face.
All throughout the show, Cheryl kept Rebecca is her comfort zone to such an extend that you couldn't tell one performance from another.
Cheryl surely recognised Rebecca's limitations & focused entirely her major strength, her voice.
I really believe that Rebecca did well to come as high as she did, despite not being at all versatile.
Your obvious dislike for Rebecca kind of negates your contribution to this kind of thread but anyway...
How on earth could Cheryl have made her dance? Rebecca addressed the 'dancing' issue in interview and basically said that although she could dance (and we already knew that she'd actually been trained at stage school in dancing as well as singing) she did not see herself as that kind of singer and did not want dance to be part of her performance. Now that to me sounds like somebody with identity and integrity.
Also, how do you know that Cheryl didn't attempt to make her dance? It's possible she tried and got told to f**k off. Now that would account for a frostyness in the relationship.
Rebecca's limitations were few. Cheryl, as somebody who could only dream of owning a voice like Rebecca's, would be hard pressed to assess Rebecca's limitations. The irony would just be too much, even for a show like X Factor.
Cheryl may have thought she was keeping Rebecca in her comfort zone but for what reason? To protect her or to stop her from winning? Most on this forum agreed that she actually did as well if not better with the uptempo material she tackles in the later shows and in an interview around that time, Rebecca made clear that she'd had to push, argue and fight to get to do that stuff.
Again, Cheryl is herself so limited and unqualified, she would be on very iffy ground trying to judge others' comfort zones. She herself spreads herself thinly. She can dance a bit so dances. She can sing a bit so sings. She knew that Cher was no better than herself in both these departments but pushed her to do likewise. So, why would she enforce very high standards where Rebecca was concerned? How on earth could she assess Rebecca's limitations and comfort zone?
I don't know about this illusion of Rebecca's uptempo songs being any different. It's still the same performace style. If you hit mute, you wouldn't be able to tell if it's an uptempo song or not.
Whether it's uptempo song or ballad, Rebecca did fine with all her songs. I don't understand why Cheryl is being blamed for getting her to 2nd place
If she was 1st it would have been fixed for Cheryl
Because she was 2nd Cheryl didn't do a good enough job with her.
Typical DS
Stop telling it as it is please. That's just not on. :mad:
Sorry
Let the conspiracy continue! :cool::D
had a view of Rebecca and just stuck with that in the main