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Who is the worst ever Prem manager?

djfunnymandjfunnyman Posts: 12,585
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John Carver's regin at Newcastle has been a disaster, but is it the worst ever reign of a Premier League manager? I think its 2nd worst, Terry Connor at Wolves was the worst ever individual reign as they only picked up 2 points from 13 games
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    HaydenHayden Posts: 32,949
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    Steve Kean wasn't the best.
    Whatever happened to him?
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    ShaunIOWShaunIOW Posts: 11,329
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    Paul Jewel at Derby County 2007/08?
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    jazzydrury3jazzydrury3 Posts: 27,075
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    christan gross was a weird one, remember for his press conference when he joined spurs he showed his tube ticket.

    as for steve kean what has happened to him, he hasnt even done any pundit work
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    RedOrDead36RedOrDead36 Posts: 1,629
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    Paul Lambert at Villa had some shocking runs and broke nearly all negative club records when it came to losing streaks, goals without a game etc I think he even broke a few records that he had set previously LOL.
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    djfunnymandjfunnyman Posts: 12,585
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    christan gross was a weird one, remember for his press conference when he joined spurs he showed his tube ticket.

    as for steve kean what has happened to him, he hasnt even done any pundit work

    Think Steve Kean manages in Asia somewhere. Around the same era as Gross Palace had Lombardo who was awful

    Paul Jewell and Billy Davies were both dreadful in the infamous 07/08 Derby season
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    jazzydrury3jazzydrury3 Posts: 27,075
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    roberto martinez when he was at wigan, dire until easter, then he got them winning
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    SnrDevSnrDev Posts: 6,094
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    Peter Taylor after Martin O'Neill at Leicester. He inherited a decent squad that had finished in the top 10 four years running, then changed the system to how he wanted to without changing the squad to reflect his wishes. Leicester went from top (top of the PL!!!) in October to missing relegation by a whisker in May, when they only stayed up because they ran out of games to lose.

    He wasn't helped by MON's squad all coming to a certain age at about the same time, but he didn't react. Relegated the following season with barely a whimper.
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    Steveaustin316Steveaustin316 Posts: 15,779
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    ShaunIOW wrote: »
    Paul Jewel at Derby County 2007/08?

    1 win and 11 points in 38 games.:o
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    jazzydrury3jazzydrury3 Posts: 27,075
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    SnrDev wrote: »
    Peter Taylor after Martin O'Neill at Leicester. He inherited a decent squad that had finished in the top 10 four years running, then changed the system to how he wanted to without changing the squad to reflect his wishes. Leicester went from top (top of the PL!!!) in October to missing relegation by a whisker in May, when they only stayed up because they ran out of games to lose.

    He wasn't helped by MON's squad all coming to a certain age at about the same time, but he didn't react. Relegated the following season with barely a whimper.

    peter taylor the guy who was meant to be the best english manager at the time.
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    jazzydrury3jazzydrury3 Posts: 27,075
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    1 win and 11 points in 38 games.:o

    they beat newcastle and it was televised if i remember
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    BigDaveXBigDaveX Posts: 835
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    Les Reed at Charlton. His appointment was bizarre in the first place - they may as well have stuck with Iain Dowie for a little longer - and his record in charge almost comically bad.

    Steve Wigley was pretty clearly set up to fail at Southampton. Probably part of a gambit to let the chairman bring his mate Glenn Hoddle back, but it failed horribly and left them pretty much dead and buried before Christmas.

    Howard Wilkinson's spell at Sunderland. Already one of the most horribly overrated managers of all time, and was brutally exposed as the footballing dinosaur he really was.
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    Gareth1984Gareth1984 Posts: 111
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    Chris Hutchings is possibly the worst manager of all time in the premier league. He replaced Paul Jewell at Bradford City and only lasted until November when he was sacked with just 1 win in 12 which left us with a mountain to climb to stay up. Unfortunately his replacement Jim Jefferies wasn't much better and we went down on 26 points.

    He then did a similar job at Wigan however Steve Bruce somehow managed to keep them up despite a disastrous start.

    Paul Jewell doesn't deserve to be mentioned in this thread. He did brilliantly to keep us up in our first premier league season and then did even better with Wigan after he got them up. He did a terrible job at Derby but he did more than enough with Bradford City and Wigan to avoid being the worst premier league manager of all time.
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    Jamesp84Jamesp84 Posts: 31,239
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    Steve Kean is managing in Bahrain now.

    Was going to mention Chris Hutchings but the poster above beat me to it! Lasted barely a few months in both managerial jobs he had.

    Portsmouth went through a few who were awful - Tony Adams, Alain Perrin, Velimir Zajec, Paul Hart.
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    djfunnymandjfunnyman Posts: 12,585
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    SnrDev wrote: »
    Peter Taylor after Martin O'Neill at Leicester. He inherited a decent squad that had finished in the top 10 four years running, then changed the system to how he wanted to without changing the squad to reflect his wishes. Leicester went from top (top of the PL!!!) in October to missing relegation by a whisker in May, when they only stayed up because they ran out of games to lose.

    He wasn't helped by MON's squad all coming to a certain age at about the same time, but he didn't react. Relegated the following season with barely a whimper.
    BigDaveX wrote: »
    Les Reed at Charlton. His appointment was bizarre in the first place - they may as well have stuck with Iain Dowie for a little longer - and his record in charge almost comically bad.

    Steve Wigley was pretty clearly set up to fail at Southampton. Probably part of a gambit to let the chairman bring his mate Glenn Hoddle back, but it failed horribly and left them pretty much dead and buried before Christmas.

    Howard Wilkinson's spell at Sunderland. Already one of the most horribly overrated managers of all time, and was brutally exposed as the footballing dinosaur he really was.

    Like John Carver at Newcastle this season. As for Southampton, I would say that Paul Sturrock was awful but he was barely given a chance looking it up

    What about Big Ron at Forest? Famously sat in the wrong dugout at his first game in charge against Arsenal
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    bingomanbingoman Posts: 23,940
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    Paolo Di Canio's at Sunderland was just bizarre but Sunderland did make few mistakes with a few of thire managers?

    Houlliers Time at Villa was bad if I remember rightly Ginola & him did not get a long
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    Wallasey SaintWallasey Saint Posts: 7,627
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    Avram Grant one season managing Portsmouth & they got relegated, he was then appointed West Ham manager the following season & got them relegated,.

    Christian Gross at Spurs
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    Wallasey SaintWallasey Saint Posts: 7,627
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    bingoman wrote: »
    Paolo Di Canio's at Sunderland was just bizarre but Sunderland did make few mistakes with a few of thire managers?

    Houlliers Time at Villa was bad if I remember rightly Ginola & him did not get a long

    That stems from the 1994 World Cup Qualifying match France vs Bulgaria, France needed a point to qualify, scores level then Bulgaria score a winner in injury time to go through to the World Cup & knock France out, Houllier blamed that goal on Ginola losing the ball in midfield which enabled Bulgaria to break forward & score the vital winner, Ginola has hated Houllier ever since. Incidentally i think that ended up being Ginola's last game in a France shirt
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    That stems from the 1994 World Cup Qualifying match France vs Bulgaria, France needed a point to qualify, scores level then Bulgaria score a winner in injury time to go through to the World Cup & knock France out, Houllier blamed that goal on Ginola losing the ball in midfield which enabled Bulgaria to break forward & score the vital winner, Ginola has hated Houllier ever since. Incidentally i think that ended up being Ginola's last game in a France shirt

    Ginola actually had the ball close to the corner flag very near the end, but rather than play out time he whipped it across goal to noone in particular other than a Bulgarian to set them off towards the winning goal.

    It was pretty crazy by Ginola, but still very questionable behavior by Houlier.
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    soulboy77soulboy77 Posts: 24,494
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    Another vote for Christian Gross though Jacques Santini also comes close as well. Christian was totally out of his depth at Spurs and it seems his appointment was more about us wanting to jump on the continental manager bandwagon.
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    dearmrmandearmrman Posts: 21,517
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    Mike Walker during his time at Everton.

    Far worse than Gross.
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    mattlambmattlamb Posts: 4,471
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    That stems from the 1994 World Cup Qualifying match France vs Bulgaria, France needed a point to qualify, scores level then Bulgaria score a winner in injury time to go through to the World Cup & knock France out, Houllier blamed that goal on Ginola losing the ball in midfield which enabled Bulgaria to break forward & score the vital winner, Ginola has hated Houllier ever since. Incidentally i think that ended up being Ginola's last game in a France shirt

    It showed a positive attitude in trying to score a goal rather than being totally negative.

    Nothing for the manager to lose his hair over.
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    Eddie hunterEddie hunter Posts: 4,231
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    mattlamb wrote: »
    It showed a positive attitude in trying to score a goal rather than being totally negative.

    Nothing for the manager to lose his hair over.

    Keeping possession in injury time isn't being totally negative when World Cup Qualification is on the line. Its completely the right thing to do.
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    Wallasey SaintWallasey Saint Posts: 7,627
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    soulboy77 wrote: »
    Another vote for Christian Gross though Jacques Santini also comes close as well. Christian was totally out of his depth at Spurs and it seems his appointment was more about us wanting to jump on the continental manager bandwagon.

    That bizarre first press conference Gross had at Spurs when he showed his Tube ticket.:o
    Keeping possession in injury time isn't being totally negative when World Cup Qualification is on the line. Its completely the right thing to do.

    Exactly imagine an England player doing what Ginola did, he'd have to leave England just for his own safety.
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    Wallasey SaintWallasey Saint Posts: 7,627
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    Man City have had many, remember Brian Horton who wasn't even famous in his own family, typical Swales appointment.
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