If the OP is bored of the Pugeot he'll hate the 1.0 Yaris! My ex had one, I used to get bored sitting in the passenger seat. The digital speedometer made it even more apparent how slow you were going.
TBH I can scarcely think of a vehicle more tedious to drive than a modern Peugeot -- an undynamic sponge-pudding of a car. The earlier Pugs had a certain raw, unrefined charm to them, but the newer ones are like wading through porridge.
TBH I can scarcely think of a vehicle more tedious to drive than a modern Peugeot -- an undynamic sponge-pudding of a car. The earlier Pugs had a certain raw, unrefined charm to them, but the newer ones are like wading through porridge.
A Yaris would be an improvement.
I had a 308 diesel hire car last year and it was ok to drive. I like my Fiesta much better though.
get a vectra or astra vxr, that will soon wake you up
lol.
Yes, Vauxhall make a few decent models.
Most of the range though is utter dreck. The (bog-standard) Vectra in particular was the single most drab and undynamic vehicle it has ever been my misfortune to drive. The Corsa is no better.
The Astra is okay I suppose, but nothing special.
Any manufacturer can spruce up naff models and make them interesting. Jeez, even Nissan managed to turn the Sunny of all things into one of the greatest hot hatches ever built (and much better-handling than the Astra VXR). It means nothing if the rest of the range is crap.
As for French cars, the problem isn't so much the reliability, it's the fact that they're "pretty" for pretty's sake, forgetting everything else that makes a car good (dynamics, build quality, logical design and yes, reliability, which is average at best in French cars).
my polo tdi just keeps on going and going. Its nothing fast or clever, but (and i hate to revert to this sort of thing), whenever else i have breaks down, or doesnt work well (but works as it should), i always think, ffs If only everything in life were as reliable as a Volkswagen.....and yea i really have thought this a few times!
infact its got to the point now where, even though its dull to drive and not even that great to drive in traffic, i am not so sure i want a different brand next time, even though my situation might force me to, my fear is if i pick a vauxhall it will be in the shop more than on the road (like my last one, and like our last works astravan cdti), and if i bought a French car it would most likely breakdown on me or let the rain in. I dont even rate our newer Series 2 Vectra at work, even though its got more toys theres a cheap feel to it (and not a cheap car) and ilogical design to where things are placed, and a lack of design thought on things like controls, would never take one of them over a Golf of the same age. Put it this way, in the Vectra you have to find all the buttoms, but in the Golf you just know where they will be and they fall to hand.
I guess for balance i would say the polo has not been 100% perfect. Had a few things done, and there are a few weak points on it (windscreen wiper/washer jet design) which should be better, but these things are minor. Its not like having wheel bearings replaced on a 3 year old vauxhall, or an A/C pump replaced, Alarm system failures, or fuel needles which have a tolerance of 3ft, 6in.
i see we are getting the usual remarks about cars, but be warned, if on a budget and with high insurance you cant really have fun (meaning FAST) as this would push the insurance sky high, and the economy would drop through the floor, plus other higher than normal charges like the VED (road tax).
If you are constrained by issues like this you have to buy a car with your head, not your heart. Sorry.
I have had three brand new Corsa's and all three of them left me stranded. My (then) company abandoned them in the end and used Nissan Micra's. Now they really did run and run.
I have had three brand new Corsa's and all three of them left me stranded. My (then) company abandoned them in the end and used Nissan Micra's. Now they really did run and run.
The modern Vauxhalls are nowhere near as reliable as the older models. They used to be pretty much bullet proof, but not anymore.
Japanese cars are usually pretty solid with Honda being the best of the bunch.
May stretch your budget to get an 08 plate but you may just manage a Honda Civic. As others have mentioned insurance is going to be an issue. However shopping around can save some cash, 21 year old I know was being quoted 3-5k by all the comparison sites for a 1.6 auto golf, eventually managed £900 from Aviva!
even £900 for insurance sounds a lot to me! My insurance is about £370 a year.
I would hope the exception to the vauxhall poor reliability would be their little MPV, the Agila as its a suzuki under the skin complete with suzuki 1.2 engine. I dont know how much vauxhall mess with the suzuki parts to make it theirs, hopefully not much (!), but i am fairly sure the diesel version uses the same same 1.3cdti as per the Corsa's, which is a Fiat sourced engine, which doesnt bode well if true, and its not too much more economical than the Agila petrol's anyway, so avoid the diesel.
even £900 for insurance sounds a lot to me! My insurance is about £370 a year.
I would hope the exception to the vauxhall poor reliability would be their little MPV, the Agila as its a suzuki under the skin complete with suzuki 1.2 engine. I dont know how much vauxhall mess with the suzuki parts to make it theirs, hopefully not much (!), but i am fairly sure the diesel version uses the same same 1.3cdti as per the Corsa's, which is a Fiat sourced engine, which doesnt bode well if true, and its not too much more economical than the Agila petrol's anyway, so avoid the diesel.
I would kill to have to pay £370 for insurance! I had to pay £1900 for the first two years of driving!
I really like the look of the Astras and i also like the Mazda2, has anyone had any experience with this car?
It would seem that the criterion is primarily to enhance the OPs image! My best suggestion is to save up for a BMW coupe - and/or buy a lottery ticket!
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Seat Ibiza ? FR model looks the part in race blue :cool:
TBH I can scarcely think of a vehicle more tedious to drive than a modern Peugeot -- an undynamic sponge-pudding of a car. The earlier Pugs had a certain raw, unrefined charm to them, but the newer ones are like wading through porridge.
A Yaris would be an improvement.
OK. That's about as positive as it is possible to be with a 308.
Heh. Corsa -- the car with the camshafts made of cheese.
And give you years of dull motoring
Vauxhall - for those who don't have a passion for cars
Years ago I had a Hyundai Accent -- even that was more interesting to drive than the Corsa I had occasional use of at work
vauxhall boring
get a vectra or astra vxr, that will soon wake you up
french, dont buy, unreliable
:yawn:
some people really need to think before they speak
lol.
Yes, Vauxhall make a few decent models.
Most of the range though is utter dreck. The (bog-standard) Vectra in particular was the single most drab and undynamic vehicle it has ever been my misfortune to drive. The Corsa is no better.
The Astra is okay I suppose, but nothing special.
Any manufacturer can spruce up naff models and make them interesting. Jeez, even Nissan managed to turn the Sunny of all things into one of the greatest hot hatches ever built (and much better-handling than the Astra VXR). It means nothing if the rest of the range is crap.
As for French cars, the problem isn't so much the reliability, it's the fact that they're "pretty" for pretty's sake, forgetting everything else that makes a car good (dynamics, build quality, logical design and yes, reliability, which is average at best in French cars).
So it may well be a "myth", but my experience with the marque backs the myth up. At least as far as I'm concerned.
infact its got to the point now where, even though its dull to drive and not even that great to drive in traffic, i am not so sure i want a different brand next time, even though my situation might force me to, my fear is if i pick a vauxhall it will be in the shop more than on the road (like my last one, and like our last works astravan cdti), and if i bought a French car it would most likely breakdown on me or let the rain in. I dont even rate our newer Series 2 Vectra at work, even though its got more toys theres a cheap feel to it (and not a cheap car) and ilogical design to where things are placed, and a lack of design thought on things like controls, would never take one of them over a Golf of the same age. Put it this way, in the Vectra you have to find all the buttoms, but in the Golf you just know where they will be and they fall to hand.
I guess for balance i would say the polo has not been 100% perfect. Had a few things done, and there are a few weak points on it (windscreen wiper/washer jet design) which should be better, but these things are minor. Its not like having wheel bearings replaced on a 3 year old vauxhall, or an A/C pump replaced, Alarm system failures, or fuel needles which have a tolerance of 3ft, 6in.
If you are constrained by issues like this you have to buy a car with your head, not your heart. Sorry.
I have had three brand new Corsa's and all three of them left me stranded. My (then) company abandoned them in the end and used Nissan Micra's. Now they really did run and run.
In the 2012 What Car? reliability survey, VW came a very lowly 20th place.
Most mechanics will tell you that the good old VW reliability line is a long way from being factual.
The modern Vauxhalls are nowhere near as reliable as the older models. They used to be pretty much bullet proof, but not anymore.
Japanese cars are usually pretty solid with Honda being the best of the bunch.
So to be woken up I need to drive the chav's specification? No thanks.
I would hope the exception to the vauxhall poor reliability would be their little MPV, the Agila as its a suzuki under the skin complete with suzuki 1.2 engine. I dont know how much vauxhall mess with the suzuki parts to make it theirs, hopefully not much (!), but i am fairly sure the diesel version uses the same same 1.3cdti as per the Corsa's, which is a Fiat sourced engine, which doesnt bode well if true, and its not too much more economical than the Agila petrol's anyway, so avoid the diesel.
"Dull motoring?" I don't give a shit as long as its reliable and never let's me down;)
I would kill to have to pay £370 for insurance! I had to pay £1900 for the first two years of driving!
I really like the look of the Astras and i also like the Mazda2, has anyone had any experience with this car?
Ouch i have a 340bhp Focus and only pay £400 fully comp