So the inference was that the attendant assumed that she was a terrorist threat because she was a muslim.
That in itself is discriminatory but then again worse acts of discrimination occur everyday. I don't doubt that this woman was hurt and angry but please put this into perspective.
There is no reason , except personal prejudice against Muslims to suspect her of lying or to say that she deserved it because her faith discriminates against other groups.
I am generally against most of what I hear about islam, but I have no reason to begrudge this individual woman or to think she deserved to be treated this way.
I'm not suggesting she is lying, but remember (in America especially) many people are constantly on the lookout for a juicy law suit opportunity.
I remember years ago reading about a girl who had a successful interview at a trendy women's hairdressers, then turned up to work in a full burqa. Obviously this wasn't the image the hairdresser was going for, and they ended up having to pay a huge compensation package after the issue was brought up.
They open the cans first so if they fizz over it happens on the trolley. No doubt she mistook what she saw and then tried to get an unopened can, which was refused. And then, since outrage is every newsseekers default setting, she complained. Loudly.
Going only off the information in the report and without resorting to guesswork or making assumptions then the passenger was treated very badly and discriminated against by the person who wouldn't serve her with an unopened can. The comments from the other passenger was also wrong.
There also seems to be a problem with some posters who can't understand or distinguish between individual people and the actions of some Muslims.
I wonder if the article didn't involve a Muslim, you'd be saying the same thing?
It wouldn't make the news
I'm trying to remember if I have ever been offered an unopened drink on a plane. I don't think that I have.
In this case I think the other passenger who told her to shut up is the really offensive culprit
I wonder if the article didn't involve a Muslim, you'd be saying the same thing?
I would indeed as we live in a "law suit culture" where everyone is on the make. What this woman is doing is adding the "race card" element into it, totally reprehensible.
You on the other hand have already without question labelled the attendant as "scum" also totally reprehensible.
I wonder if the article didn't involve a Muslim, you'd be saying the same thing?
Why wouldn't they? It's quite common for people to be mistaken about what they think they've seen or heard. There's also the element of people who will exaggerate or even lie in the hopes of gaining compensation.
In any case, the airline is right to investigate the situation, rather than just accepting her word for it. The customer isn't always in the right, as every single person who has ever worked with members of the public could tell you.
I would indeed as we live in a "law suit culture" where everyone is on the make. What this woman is doing is adding the "race card" element into it, totally reprehensible.
You on the other hand have already without question labelled the attendant as "scum" also totally reprehensible.
Speak for yourself.
And I'm assuming you are including yourself when you say everyone is on the make.
It's silly how you have created your own scenario in a way that discriminates against a Muslim woman. I wonder what informs your thinking?
I wonder if the article didn't involve a Muslim, you'd be saying the same thing?
If the situation didn't involve a muslim playing the victim card, it wouldn't have been 'news' - so no one would know about the triviality of the story.
If the situation didn't involve a muslim playing the victim card, it wouldn't have been 'news' - so no one would know about the triviality of the story.
If the same thing happened to you, what would you have done? Would you have kept silent or told everyone about the disgusting discrimination you were put through?
If it all happened as she says then she is well within her rights to complain and yes, it IS racist. Who is to say that the white guy was not recruited by some terrorist organisation
And I'm assuming you are including yourself when you say everyone is on the make.
It's silly how you have created your own scenario in a way that discriminates against a Muslim woman. I wonder what informs your thinking?
Its interesting you accuse me of creating a "scenario" but are not questioning the woman for doing the same. Go back and look what she does for a living and ask yourself how much of a coincidence was it that this flight attendant happened to pick on this particular person.
I use United as well as American frequently for trips to the US and both airlines have always opened or poured canned drinks without asking me first.
Like it or not, and you can't have failed to notice the TV commercials, we live in a claim culture imported largely from the US.
a) I missed the bit in the article where she had.
b) It's about as relevant as the comment about gays is to the story being discussed
a) Islam is intrinsically homophobic. So, she will be.
b) Yes, I know. I wasn't condoning her treatment - if it happened as reported, it was wrong and should be investigated and dealt with accordingly. However, I don't give a damn if she's offended, due to point (a).
a) Islam is intrinsically homophobic. So, she will be.
b) Yes, I know. I wasn't condoning her treatment - if it happened as reported, it was wrong and should be investigated and dealt with accordingly. However, I don't give a damn if she's offended.
It's not inconceivable that a Muslim cannot be homophobic you know. All the Ibrahimic religions are intrinsically homophobic. Are all their adherents homophobic?
If the same thing happened to you, what would you have done? Would you have kept silent or told everyone about the disgusting discrimination you were put through?
LoL at 'disgusting discrimination' and your earlier 'anti-muslim scum' comments over an ambiguous situation about an unopened can of drink
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customers always tell lies
first thing they teach you in retail.....and the motor trade
That in itself is discriminatory but then again worse acts of discrimination occur everyday. I don't doubt that this woman was hurt and angry but please put this into perspective.
There is no reason , except personal prejudice against Muslims to suspect her of lying or to say that she deserved it because her faith discriminates against other groups.
I am generally against most of what I hear about islam, but I have no reason to begrudge this individual woman or to think she deserved to be treated this way.
I'm not suggesting she is lying, but remember (in America especially) many people are constantly on the lookout for a juicy law suit opportunity.
I remember years ago reading about a girl who had a successful interview at a trendy women's hairdressers, then turned up to work in a full burqa. Obviously this wasn't the image the hairdresser was going for, and they ended up having to pay a huge compensation package after the issue was brought up.
There also seems to be a problem with some posters who can't understand or distinguish between individual people and the actions of some Muslims.
And you believe that without question?
I wonder if the article didn't involve a Muslim, you'd be saying the same thing?
It wouldn't make the news
I'm trying to remember if I have ever been offered an unopened drink on a plane. I don't think that I have.
In this case I think the other passenger who told her to shut up is the really offensive culprit
I would indeed as we live in a "law suit culture" where everyone is on the make. What this woman is doing is adding the "race card" element into it, totally reprehensible.
You on the other hand have already without question labelled the attendant as "scum" also totally reprehensible.
Why wouldn't they? It's quite common for people to be mistaken about what they think they've seen or heard. There's also the element of people who will exaggerate or even lie in the hopes of gaining compensation.
In any case, the airline is right to investigate the situation, rather than just accepting her word for it. The customer isn't always in the right, as every single person who has ever worked with members of the public could tell you.
I thought Mr T. didn't like flying?
Speak for yourself.
And I'm assuming you are including yourself when you say everyone is on the make.
It's silly how you have created your own scenario in a way that discriminates against a Muslim woman. I wonder what informs your thinking?
Or blue cheese?
Yes, because that's as relevant as persecuting a minority group.
If the same thing happened to you, what would you have done? Would you have kept silent or told everyone about the disgusting discrimination you were put through?
a) I missed the bit in the article where she had.
b) It's about as relevant as the comment about gays is to the story being discussed
Its interesting you accuse me of creating a "scenario" but are not questioning the woman for doing the same. Go back and look what she does for a living and ask yourself how much of a coincidence was it that this flight attendant happened to pick on this particular person.
I use United as well as American frequently for trips to the US and both airlines have always opened or poured canned drinks without asking me first.
Like it or not, and you can't have failed to notice the TV commercials, we live in a claim culture imported largely from the US.
a) Islam is intrinsically homophobic. So, she will be.
b) Yes, I know. I wasn't condoning her treatment - if it happened as reported, it was wrong and should be investigated and dealt with accordingly. However, I don't give a damn if she's offended, due to point (a).
It's not inconceivable that a Muslim cannot be homophobic you know. All the Ibrahimic religions are intrinsically homophobic. Are all their adherents homophobic?
Excitable or what?
Anything for the cause though eh?