Proposed revamp ideas for next years show? Any ideas

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  • earldbestearldbest Posts: 3,894
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    Love all the earnest suggestions from posters who have completely missed the humour in the OP. :D

    The Over 27.5s seemed serious. :rolleyes:
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 716
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    #1 - GET RID of the live auditions, it was much more interesting and had a better atmosphere.

    #2 - Do not send people home before they have even sung at Boot camp. If they weren't good enough, don't put them through in the first place. It's cruel when they do that.

    #3 - I like the idea of the judges mentoring their acts BUT they need to DRASTICALLY change the sing off. The should have the bottom two revealed near the start of the results show have the phones lines back on, then have the guests perform and then kick out the person with the lowest amount of votes. The judges clearly have NO IDEA what they talking about.

    #4 - They should have 5 judges, keep Nicole, Louis and ditch Tulisa. Sharon clearly wants to come back, so bring her back. Make her an INCLUSIVE head judge. She has enough mouth to tell it how it is without being connected to any contestants.

    #5 - NEW performers to perform. NO RIHANNA for example, it's ridiculous how man her and other acts get to perform when many talented singers/ band of all kinds go unnoticed. Also have only one guest per results show.

    #6 - Keep it to 12 acts.

    #7 Let the viewers decide one member of each category, the judges put though the two they want then let the viewers have their say.
  • MandyXZMandyXZ Posts: 86,946
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    More singing and less chat, there was far too much backstage/chat/interviews etc this year.

    Get rid of Louis

    Get rid of Tulisa

    Bring back Simon

    As been stated - Get rid of the live auditions and cut the Saturday show down to 90 minutes.

    And less of the sob stories.
  • JennylooJennyloo Posts: 14,142
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    PG30 wrote: »
    Here's my ideas to improve the show

    1) Replace Tulisa as a Judge with someone more relevant, modern and someone who can sell records. I think Christopher would be an ideal replacement

    2) Time to put Louis down. His meaningless Sound bites are ern meaningless. His only contribution is to tell his acts to sit on stalls, or not to sit on stalls. You can see the contestants hearts sink when they're told that Louis will be a their mentor.

    3) Sending through Joke acts who can't sing at the auditions is embarrassing and humiliating. So I'd like to see more of that

    4) Scrap the over 28s category, nobody wants to see the likes of Chris or Mary Winning. Replace it with an over 27 and a halves category

    5) It's pretty clear that the producers think the public are idiots and can't be trusted. To be fair they have a point, so I think they should bring back the famous ITV vote rigging to manipulate the winner

    6) Replace that ridiculous over the top judges entrance music with something more appropriate. Perhaps the benny hill theme tune

    Ok, i'm out of ideas. Feel free to add to the list

    :D:D:D:D:DI actually took your Headline seriously but a great post :D:D:D
    seriously though I would scrap the overs or bring the age down.
  • JennylooJennyloo Posts: 14,142
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    HandsClean wrote: »
    #1 - GET RID of the live auditions, it was much more interesting and had a better atmosphere.

    #2 - Do not send people home before they have even sung at Boot camp. If they weren't good enough, don't put them through in the first place. It's cruel when they do that.

    #3 - I like the idea of the judges mentoring their acts BUT they need to DRASTICALLY change the sing off. The should have the bottom two revealed near the start of the results show have the phones lines back on, then have the guests perform and then kick out the person with the lowest amount of votes. The judges clearly have NO IDEA what they talking about.

    #4 - They should have 5 judges, keep Nicole, Louis and ditch Tulisa. Sharon clearly wants to come back, so bring her back. Make her an INCLUSIVE head judge. She has enough mouth to tell it how it is without being connected to any contestants.

    #5 - NEW performers to perform. NO RIHANNA for example, it's ridiculous how man her and other acts get to perform when many talented singers/ band of all kinds go unnoticed. Also have only one guest per results show.

    #6 - Keep it to 12 acts.

    #7 Let the viewers decide one member of each category, the judges put though the two they want then let the viewers have their say.
    Like your idea of five judges. It would give credence to my idea of under 21's boys and girls, and over 21's boys and girls, as well as groups.
  • JennylooJennyloo Posts: 14,142
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    k0213818 wrote: »
    Some random suggestions:

    - Embrace the older audience. The fact that Maloney topped the public vote so many times was down in part to the older audience of the show, so instead of trying to scare these type of viewers away by condemning them for being wrong (Tulisa) cater to them.

    - Make the show positive. The reason Strictly has been beating the X Factor is due to the fact that Strictly is a much more positive feel good show, whereas The X Factor is riddled with tabloid scandal, sleaziness and contrived controversy, get rid of that and make the show more positive and fun.

    -Change the judges categories from those based on age to those based on specialist genres such as Rock, Pop, RnB etc. It would be an interesting tweak and would allow the show to possibly gain a wider musical fanbase.

    - Be clear and less hypocritical with the audience, the viewers aren't idiots and yet with these sudden U-turns on contestants (Rylan) and tabloid slander stories (Maloney) the producers make us feel like we are.
    Like the ideas I've highlighted.:):)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,888
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    Judges: Nicole, Louis, Gary, Danni (I'm being realistic here, Louis has always been on the show and Simon won't leave the US version).

    Presenter: Dermot or maybe Ant and Dec (although they have I'm a Celebrity so I can't see it).

    Auditions: Back to the conference/hotel rooms. Gets rid of a lot of the novelty acts and has the act singing without the big backing track. Stop all this Made in Chelsea style crap and focus on telling us about the singing instead of the acts sitting at a cafe with a producer pretending to have happened to be talking about Nibbles their cat.

    Bootcamp: Get rid of the cull without singing, it's cruel and pointless. No audience. An act sings in a group number (selected by the judges to give everyone an advantage) then sings twice solo, once then there's a cut of people then another time before the judges houses are selected.

    Judges Houses: eight from each category
    Gary- Groups
    Nicole- Boys
    Tulisa- Overs
    Louis- Girls

    To mix things up and see how Louis handles a category with more a track record. Also with the elimination of novelty he can't put through acts based on there reputation.
    At judges houses, there's no guest mentors. No one really takes on board what they say and they're only there to fill space.
    The acts sing twice and then are told who is going through. Three from each goes through then the lines open for the public to pick one wild card from each category.

    Live shows: the wild cards perform as well as the act. three wild cards will be eliminated on the public vote, the finalists perform and one of them is eliminated.

    Bring back the proper themes
    Live show 1: Motown
    Live show 2: U2 week
    Live show 3: unplugged week
    Live show 4: Big band/swing week
    Live show 5: Hit soundtracks

    And so on; etc

    Finals: There are four finalists. Two go on the Saturday, the winner is announced on the Sunday. Stick to the different winners songs, it's a good idea. Scrap the judges duet unless it is suitable for the contestant, get in a celebrity to sing with them. I quite liked it when they sang Christmas songs too. That would be nice.
  • tremetreme Posts: 5,445
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    When the lines open, a small counter next to the "SycoProfit-o-meter £00.00" should start in the bottom corner of the screen.
  • PJ RiverPJ River Posts: 1,050
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    Lots of good ideas there. My main problem is the fact that it is public vote. I would create a representative panel of a 100 people in the audience (considering age, social class, etc...) who will vote.
  • mutman62mutman62 Posts: 13
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    How about dont put it on in the first place :)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,153
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    od hominem wrote: »
    Get rid of Louis Walsh

    No more themed shows

    Get rid of Louis Walsh

    More original material

    Get rid of Louis ''You're in the finaaaaall!!!! You'll definitely get a recorrrd deeeal!!!!!! You're original!!!! You're what this show is all about!!!! You're fun!!! You're entertaininnnngggg!!!!!!!!'' Walsh

    Production that suits the artist's style

    No reality TV circuit fodder

    No Louis Walsh

    Just to clarify, Louis' a keeper? ;)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,028
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    PG30 wrote: »
    Here's my ideas to improve the show

    1) Replace Tulisa as a Judge with someone more relevant, modern and someone who can sell records. I think Christopher would be an ideal replacement

    2) Time to put Louis down. His meaningless Sound bites are ern meaningless. His only contribution is to tell his acts to sit on stalls, or not to sit on stalls. You can see the contestants hearts sink when they're told that Louis will be a their mentor.

    3) Sending through Joke acts who can't sing at the auditions is embarrassing and humiliating. So I'd like to see more of that

    4) Scrap the over 28s category, nobody wants to see the likes of Chris or Mary Winning. Replace it with an over 27 and a halves category

    5) It's pretty clear that the producers think the public are idiots and can't be trusted. To be fair they have a point, so I think they should bring back the famous ITV vote rigging to manipulate the winner

    6) Replace that ridiculous over the top judges entrance music with something more appropriate. Perhaps the benny hill theme tune

    Ok, i'm out of ideas. Feel free to add to the list

    Some great ideas in there. But lets deal with all of them by just cancelling it altogether. Sorted!! :D:D
  • PJ RiverPJ River Posts: 1,050
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    Cancelling the show is definitely a good idea or do it once every two years.
  • RushRush Posts: 426
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    Scrap Arena Auditions
    Replace Dermot (sorry, he's had his day) & Caroline & Olly
    Louis, Nicole, Mel B, Simon/Gary panel
  • tiggerspptiggerspp Posts: 386
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    The biggest change they should make is to have mentors separate to the judges!

    Secondly they need Cowell back, whatever it takes!

    Gary and Louis can go for me too!

    Finally encourage contestants to perform their own material and play their own instruments more, less of the covers, more originality!
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 905
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    I can't see Louis going anywhere, All depends on whether Nic wants to sign again but if she did I think Louis, Dannii, Sharon, Nicole and Simon would be the dreamteam. Louis would not know who to be friends with. Sharon and Dannii could be bitchslapping, whilst Nicole slutdrops to the left, shouting "Shamazing". Simon would in both the UK and the US version be the impartial judge...however saying Simon is impartial is like calling katie Price a virgin.
  • .Rogue.Rogue Posts: 74
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    Rename to X Craptor ;)

    Scrap Overs. Put females with Girls and Men with boys regardless of age.

    Dismiss all judges. I'd like to see Simon, Sharon and Danni back, sorry Louis.

    Get rid of Dermot.

    Let's have more contestants put on the live shows to choose from.

    Judges must choose to eliminate an act and not to opt out when they want to.
  • Air ResistanceAir Resistance Posts: 5,145
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    I realise the op was a (very funny) pee take, but here's my idea to fresh up the format anyway...

    Audition in front of mentors only as it was, each judge gets a yes no vote, three yes's and you go through. Bringing your own songs is encouraged at this stage but not required.

    Next stage is everyone who got a through gets 1 performance infront of an audience (ala current auditions) that mentors critique but don't vote on, again original songs are encouraged but not required depending if contestant thinks it will benefit them. From this and the initial auditions mentors wittle it down to 5 in each category to take to mentors houses.

    Mentors houses will be at usual exotic location but performed infront of two mentors (selected at random) and 2 guests (there mates as usual). Contestant performs a song of their choice and panel of 4 decide which 3 go through to live shows.

    Live shows have a no wildcard, no themes and as per the rest of the series originals or covers of any genre are welcome. Throughout the week contestants are given advice and training on different aspects by all the mentors. During the show, Mentors give critique after every performance but as they are not assigned to a category, they are free to give honest views. Stop the audience booing. Then on Sunday show bottom two are announce, save me song then judges vote who they want to save and deadlock.

    Yes, I am bored at work and this formula would require talented judges (not Louis)
  • maninthequeuemaninthequeue Posts: 2,479
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    PG30 wrote: »
    Here's my ideas to improve the show

    1) Replace Tulisa as a Judge with someone more relevant, modern and someone who can sell records. I think Christopher would be an ideal replacement

    2) Time to put Louis down. His meaningless Sound bites are ern meaningless. His only contribution is to tell his acts to sit on stalls, or not to sit on stalls. You can see the contestants hearts sink when they're told that Louis will be a their mentor.

    3) Sending through Joke acts who can't sing at the auditions is embarrassing and humiliating. So I'd like to see more of that

    4) Scrap the over 28s category, nobody wants to see the likes of Chris or Mary Winning. Replace it with an over 27 and a halves category

    5) It's pretty clear that the producers think the public are idiots and can't be trusted. To be fair they have a point, so I think they should bring back the famous ITV vote rigging to manipulate the winner

    6) Replace that ridiculous over the top judges entrance music with something more appropriate. Perhaps the benny hill theme tune

    Ok, i'm out of ideas. Feel free to add to the list

    In the spirit of the OP:

    1) Replace Tulisa with comedienne Morgana Robinson who is most famous for her Cheryl Cole & Dannii Minogue impersonations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7HJyUCmIFE so between add breaks she can change personas of the two much loved and much squabbled about ex-X-Factor judges.

    2) Replace Louis Walsh with Mrs Brown and provide "her" with Louis Walsh's bingo card with his stock phrases on http://www.bullshitbingo.net/cards/louis_walsh_x-factor/

    3) As this series has clearly shown it's not about your talent, but what sob stories you have and how much winning X-Factor could improve your drab pathetic humdrum life. So the auditions should involve no singing and be you telling your best sob stories under a Westlife, Coldplay, Snow Patrol musical bed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGIIY7eewug If you have any fake injuries, illnesses, how much it means to win this for your dead nan's budgerigar etc even better.

    4) To save in future vilifying any over 28 who get too far in the contest like Steve Brookstein & Christopher Maloney bring in a clause that any over 28 act who makes the last 6 of the contest will automatically disappear Russian KGB style, and the following Quarter Final week that act's previous existence in never mentioned.

    5) As the public have shown in the first 7 weeks they can't be trusted, in future Syco should hire a call centre to work for 24 hours exclusively dialling the phone number of the act they want to get through/win.

    6) Get Caroline Flack to assemble a boyband for the show out of auditionees she fancies.

    7) Replace Dermot as host with Rylan.

    8) The show clearly has too many different guest acts, so have ex-X-Factor alumni to perform on the show if for some unlikely reason Rihanna or Emeli Sande are not available to perform every week.

    9) Get rid of the Sunday sing offs as we've seen this series the judges clearly take no notice of them, and just let that producer bloke who was talking to Louis Walsh in week 1 to carry the casting vote each week.

    10) Hire Armstrong & Miller as hosts of ITV2's Extra Factor and at the end of each show when they have talked to the eliminated act about there future plans they can utter their famous catchphrase http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DckrYRSsUA
  • CranberryappleCranberryapple Posts: 12,723
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    Let's have mentors who are NOT judges.then maybe they will more honest.. None of them want to slate their own act. If they have no attachment to them it won't be personal

    I like this:)
    treme wrote: »
    When the lines open, a small counter next to the "SycoProfit-o-meter £00.00" should start in the bottom corner of the screen.

    ...:D

    My tuppence worth...

    Get rid of Louis and Tulisa..

    Bring back Simon and Danni M.

    Get rid of the ridiculous farce they call the 'sing off'..The Mentors are ALWAYS gonna pick their own..

    Absolutely no joke acts ( ie Wagner, Rylan, Johnny Chico etc )

    No Arena auditions..

    No 'over the top' sob stories being rolled out week after week..

    Just for starters:D





    It should be renamed.

    The X Factor means you have that 'something' nobody else has, why then are 1st, 2nd and 3 rd places getting record contracts? Mockery comes to mind..
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,829
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    Get an in house live band and live backing vocalists to perhaps give the show a tiny bit of musical integrity.

    The cheap karaoke tracks they use are absolutely awful.

    Why has nobody mentioned this yet?
  • Purple-KiwisPurple-Kiwis Posts: 1,143
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    1. Replace Tulisa. Have two judges who are singers and two who are behind the scenes like producers/ songwriters
    2. Stop putting through joke acts, or at least stop saving them when they're in the bottom two?
    3. Better themes, maybe make a poll of themes and have the public vote for their favourite, this will engage the audience and maybe improve ratings
    4. Have a "Wheel of Songs" in the auditions where an auditionee spins the wheel and whatever song it lands on they have to sing it.
    5. Replace sing off with bushtucker trials.
  • Romola_Des_LoupRomola_Des_Loup Posts: 3,152
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    My favourite two changes would be:

    Get rid of the Arena auditions.

    Bring back big Band Week

    Make the VTs about what they've been doing during the week. No, not which parties and premieres they've been to, but what coaching they've been having, what faults they were working on, what the judges were looking for in this particular week's performances.

    THREE! My favourite THREE changes!
  • qwerty21qwerty21 Posts: 294
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    Judging line up scrap Tulisa and Gary bring in Simon/Noel Gallagher Sharon/Danni/Mel B

    No arena Auditions

    Bootcamp needs more focus to it: I'd quite like it if they divided them into categories at this stage and had surrogate mentors (maybe 2) some individual attention and whittle it down to 7 for judges homes.

    Judges home each judge picks 3 contestants and they have an additional 'steal' from the other three categories. Giving them each 4 contestants and 16 in total.

    Monday to Thursday half hour shows where 4 acts perform and each judge ditches one.

    On Saturday we have a final 12 and each judge has 3 acts. Not necessairily a category- the person who has the overs would probably scrap an over and get a boy or a girl into their top 3.

    Results Show you announce the rankings a la XFactor US

    When 3 acts leave (Top 9) and another 3 leave (Top 6) there is a 'transfer window' and contestants can swap mentors and mentors can swap contestants. This could be prerecorded or happen live.

    With some more subtle changes this could probably be the basis of a new show altogether...
  • D. MorganD. Morgan Posts: 4,166
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    1. Closed auditions

    2. Get rid of joke acts

    3. Get rid of Tulisa and Gary, bring back Sharon and Simon...

    Sorted.
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