Is this forum just 'Team Victim' always and forever?
iMatt_101
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I mean seriously?
At the beginning of the series when Perez and Nadia were reasonably popular in the house and were picking at the likes of Ken and Katie Hopkins everyone hated them
Now that roles have reversed and Katie Hopkins, Michelle etc are the popular ones in the house and Perez is hated, this forum has reversed too and suddenly loves Perez, claiming that Katie H is 'bullying' him?
Rather sudden/random change, and I can't help but look at it as if this forum will just support whoever is the outcast/underdog
At the beginning of the series when Perez and Nadia were reasonably popular in the house and were picking at the likes of Ken and Katie Hopkins everyone hated them
Now that roles have reversed and Katie Hopkins, Michelle etc are the popular ones in the house and Perez is hated, this forum has reversed too and suddenly loves Perez, claiming that Katie H is 'bullying' him?
Rather sudden/random change, and I can't help but look at it as if this forum will just support whoever is the outcast/underdog
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More like Team Victimise.
The Forum - and the wider public have a long history of supporting the underdog. Look at some of the past winners.
Nothing wrong with that - except all HMs are aware of it and many are happy to set themselves up as VICTIM in order to garner support.
Personally, I've supported victims, I've supported Power HMs too. But I've never supported anyone who set themself up as Victim. I can't support anyone who is playing me. Play the game by all means, but don't play me.
You may be right.
Another thing that is strange though is that none remembers that Nadia's has made it clear from day one she hates Hopkins and is never going to be her friend or change her opinion, so if Perez is doing her work for her by anti Hopkins behaviour, she hasn't and is not going to stop him.
It is all working in her favour, especially if she overdramatises Hopkins telling Perez to stop something as it draws everyone's attention more to it, being a negative for Hopkins. I think Nadia's knows exactly what she is doing and is no innocent. Good gameplan??
Good post.
And yet the dominant theme on DS has often been that the most powerful and runaway favourite HM is actually the unpopular underdog. Or that his/her fans are. Go figure.
Individuals win BB, not groups.
Anyway, it's fun to challenge and change your opinions because that's what the majority of the voters do, they vote on a whim. It's more fun than being stuck to one housemate all series and refusing to believe they do anything wrong.
However, I dislike Katie H slightly more than Perez, purely because her choice of people to villify tend to be ordinary real life people who really do not deserve her vitriol and not the celebrities that Perez tends to take aim at, who, up to a point, have chosen their lives to be put under a spotlight.
So at the moment, I am quite enjoying the battle of the sh*ts, which, in my opinion, Perez is winning, which is fine by me and really makes Katie the underdog of the two of them.
Neither of them deserves support, but currently Perez is amusing me more out of the two of them.
I constantly try to redress the balance and stick up for her (as do others here) since her good intentions are frequently glossed over in the biaised motive of certain people dissing her regardless.
I hope that the support of the general public to save Nadia now will make such posters take stock and review their clouded attitude.
Decided I cannot like Katie H, and Michelle and think Cami Li is appalling.
Like Nadia and Keith and wouldn't mind if either of them or Perez won.
Well said.
Not just this forum but most reality forums do the same thing, Find someone they can make the victim & if they say it loud enough & long enough then. Hey Presto we have a new Victim & we will all stand together & fight the great fight to make our victim a winner! Works every time, Just like that
I don't like many of them in there, but each of them may make me annoyed, laugh, sympathise, agree with them at various points when they do or say something - doesn't mean suddenly I forget that they may not be particularly nice or pleasant, but serves to remind me that most people are made up of many personality traits.
I dislike Katie H intensely but have agreed with some of the things she's said as a housemate (that Perez is a coward and never owns things he says, for example). I like Nadia but don't always agree with her defense of Perez. I like Patsy but she comes over as a bit of a wimp, liked Michelle but have been disappointed by her - which isn't to say that I don't sometimes agree with something she might say... and so on.
I'd rather not choose a team, I'd rather watch the show and see how they are being that particular episode, or that particular conversation, and agree or disagree with that particular incident.
The only 'team' I'm on is mine
I think sometimes things seemed skewed, however, because maybe those with the opposing view to the majority (ie those who prefer Perez over Katie) feel they have to shout a bit louder, or start more threads, to be heard. I don't know, I'm just speculating here!
I also think with such a show as BB you have to expect a fair bit of fluidity in people's opinions from episode to episode.
I don't think that's the case...Helen won.
But to go into a bit more detail there is one pretty big flaw with your post while I appreciate the point you are trying to make.
By suggesting there is something wrong with the forum siding with "The Victim" then in a round about way it suggests that it is perfectly acceptable to support the person who makes "The Victim" feel victimised in the first place
If there is going to be a stereotype within the forumI would 1 Million times out of 1 Million throw my support towards someone who is being given a hard time...than the person giving the hard time
It just so happens that in the current BB house, the occasions that Hopkins has blatantly tried her best to insult and ostracise those that do not tow the line have shown a lot more strength of character and she hasn't been able to continue.....for me anyway that shows those with bullying tendencies for what they truly are, weak and pathetic..........it doesn't automatically mean that those they target are likable people, just that some viewers don't see the poor treatment of others as particularly nice to watch.....I see Alicia was painted with 'playing the victim card' when she clearly did no such thing.......presumably to detract from acknowledging that a weak pack in there thought she was ripe for insults and initial attempts to ostracise her...thank fully for other strong characters in there I;e Nadia and Alicia herself they didn't succeed...but it wasn't for the lack of trying.
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Victim of what? Answer me this and you might understand the reasons for Perez support.