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bodsworthnj
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Acording to my calculations the story "the silence in the library/ River's run" is going to be the 200th story since Doctor who's start in 1963.
Obviously all multiparters count as one story.
http://www.gallifreyone.com/epguide-dw10.php
Obviously all multiparters count as one story.
http://www.gallifreyone.com/epguide-dw10.php
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However... things get slightly more tricky because whereas previously the BBC counted 'Trial Of A Time Lord' as four separate stories (Mysterious Planet, Mindwarp, Terror Of The Vervoids and Ultimate Foe) it seems that they're now counting it as one, which reduces the numbering of every subsequent story by three, so they're now claiming that the 200th story will actually be episode six of the new season!
Pah, bloody new numbering system! TOATL will always be four stories as far as I'm concerned!
Does that include items like the 2005 CIN mini-episode and Time Crash?
La la la! I can't hear you! La la la!
would they not be regarded as part of the episodes...Parting of the Ways or TCI and with Time Crash LotTL or VotD?
The question is what is the official BBC take on all of this? How do they count it?
DWM, on their Facebook forums, have confirmed that the BBC have said that the first 2009 special will be marked as the 200th story.
It works like this - if you go by the Outpost Gallifrey story guide you get 192 stories. That is inaccurate on four counts (officially):
1) Shada was never completed - so that's one taken off.
2) 'The Trial of a Timelord', though often treated as four stories, officially only had one title, and a cliffhanger at the end of every episode up until thirteen. Officially then - it is only one story (and, indeed, was at the time - only for the sake of novelisations and video releases was it split into four using the working title of each segment - JNT later decided to go with this so he could publicise 'Dragonfire' as story 150) - so that's three taken off.
3) The Outpost Gallifrey guide counts 'Utopia' and 'The Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords' as two different stories. Officially, however, they are one three parter - so that's one taken off.
4) The guide hasn't (and won't) be updated to include 'Voyage of the Damned' - so that's one added.
There are, in series four, ten stories. The 2008 Christmas special adds one more.
'Time Crash', 'Dimensions in Time', 'The Curse of Fatal Death' and any webcasts are all not counted.
That means:
192 - 1 - 3 - 1 + 1 + 10 + 1=
199
Meaning that the first special of 2009 is, indeed, the 200th broadcast TV story.
Mansun - when you took three stories off by taking into account 'Trial' as a single story, you moved in the wrong direction. Reducing the number of pre-existing stories makes the 200th story come later rather than earlier.
If anyone feels really wed to the idea that Shada and/or a four story season 23 and/or 'Utopia' as a separate story is their preferred truth (though it still remains the case that the producers' original intentions in every case was what the BBC have now made official) - bear in mind that this will give the BBC a major hook on which to start the specials. They may even have something extra nice planned in lieu of not managing a thirtieth or fortieth anniversary special.
Why not
Outpost Gallifrey is no more, that's why.
The news articles are continuing as The Doctor Who News Page, and the Forum is continuing as The Doctor Who Forum, but I guess other parts of the site such as the episode guides are just too much work to keep up to date now.
Anyway, I still stand by the idea that episode 12 of this coming season is the 750th actual, real, written, produced and broadcast on the telly, not-a-spoof-or-charity-sketch, proper episode of Doctor Who!:D
Three production codes, four segments, one story. 'Trial' is an awkward bugger to categorise. However - the fact that it is given only one title on screen, has 'Part One' through to 'Part Fourteen' displayed, and has cliffhangers all the way through, pretty much shores up that the intention at the time was to think of it as a single story.
I remember that the Time Team in DWM noted that there were 696 episodes prior to the show's return. There have been another 42 since then - making 738 - so yes, episode 12 of series four will be the 750th.
That needs to wiped from all our memories.
Retcon anyone?
Just be thankful that it can never be released on DVD.
Nope. There's no way of counting stories, or even possible stories (e.g. 'Dimensions in Time' or 'Time Crash'), that could make it 200th either.
The BBC couldn't even preserve all the episodes for posterity so who cares what they think.:mad:
Not that it matters of course. Episode numbering that is.
Episode numbering matters more than episode naming, though. There are fans out there who seriously think Mission to the Unknown should be referred to by its production title Dalek Cutaway.:D
It's great being a nerd isn't it?!! I love this stuff!
If I wasn't reading this I'd have to do some work...
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