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So now that the first major brand-wide event (im not counting Gah-Lak-Tus) has finished in the Ultimate Marvel U, i just wondered what you all thought?
Do you think they can rebuild after such massive devastation? Do you think some of the major deaths were right to happen? Where do you see the teams and remaining characters go from here?
Do you think they can rebuild after such massive devastation? Do you think some of the major deaths were right to happen? Where do you see the teams and remaining characters go from here?
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As well as being a terrible story in and of itself with major holes in it, it basically ruins the Ultimate Universe. It's now effectively a post apocalyptic landscape. It's not set in the real world but with superheroes any more (unless they're just going to ignore the destruction of New York or pretend that it was fixed in three weeks, which granted looks like it might be the plan).
Honestly I think the entire universe will be dead within three years now.
Phazer
Ultimates 3 sucked on a massive scale, and then his name was on the series that nuked the entire continuity.
It's so sad because I loved Ultimates 1, liked Ultimates 2 (despite its many flaws) and enjoyed Ultimate Spidey - much more than the 619 universe.
Oh well.
I find it difficult to see where they can go from here... i was hoping to see where they were going in Spidey with Mysterio and how the X-Men would have gone on with the TRUE death of Prof X
I know Spidey and Ultimates are continuing, and Ultimate Avengers is coming... just hope they dont completely reboot or retcon the series... the whole selling point on the brand was there was no coming back from Comic Book Death... well step forward Gwen Stacey and Beast!
I may stop reading now this first "chapter" is completed... not decided yet.
Not the way they did it!
The only complaint I really have is that the killing of Wolverine didnt seem right. I mean, the series Ultimate Wolverine Vs Hulk, had Wolverine surviving as just a head, and they said they put his head in a vacuum and he still survived. Given all of that, getting shot by both Ironman and Cyclops at the same time shouldnt kill him.
To be honest, I doubt he's really dead.
In the regular 616 universe he was reduced to his Adamantium skeleton, and that didn't keep him down for long.
It's just that the Ult Wolverine Vs Hulk came out quite close to this issue, and it was f resh in my mind and struck me as strange.
Something like that did happen in Days of Future Past, but I think the incident being reffered to is in Wolverine's Civil War story arc tie in, Nitro blew up right by him, reducing Wolverine to his skeleton, and he still healed back quickly!
Actually, since then,I think there was a story to reduce his healing factor because that seemed a bit too far to stretch it, but I havent read that one.
Days of Future Past was written back in 1981, long, long before Wolverine became Marvel's most bankable and ubiquitous star.
Since then his power's have been upgraded to the point where he appears to be unkillable.
During Civil War he lost all of his skin and flesh in a fight with Nitro....
http://uk.comics.ign.com/articles/742/742054p1.html
...but he got better.
And when I was flicking through the big 'History of Wolverine' sort of book that's in shops now, there was something about a plot line where he made a deal with devil figure many years ago that meant he would always come back from death.
To be honest, it looked like a terrible bit of ret-conning.