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Women innocently filmed in public without consent and put on adult sites
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"UNSUSPECTING Scottish women have been secretly filmed and their images uploaded to a disturbing porn website.
Hundreds of unwitting victims have been targeted by perverts using hidden cameras in public places.
Videos include images of women carrying small children in supermarkets as a cameraman tries to aim his lens up their skirt.
Other clips show women out jogging in parks and walking down the street.
Laura Tomson, co-director of women’s charity group Zero Tolerance, yesterday said more needed to be done to clamp down on sex websites who used material with no consent.
She said: “So-called ‘upskirt shots’ and other intimate images that are shared without women’s consent are clear violations of women’s right to go about their business in a public place."
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scottish-women-secretly-filmed-images-5710673
I didn't know this happened till I read the article in today's Sunday Mail. It is very wrong and disturbing to think your mother or sister could be filmed innocently going about their day and it ending up on a adult site.
Hundreds of unwitting victims have been targeted by perverts using hidden cameras in public places.
Videos include images of women carrying small children in supermarkets as a cameraman tries to aim his lens up their skirt.
Other clips show women out jogging in parks and walking down the street.
Laura Tomson, co-director of women’s charity group Zero Tolerance, yesterday said more needed to be done to clamp down on sex websites who used material with no consent.
She said: “So-called ‘upskirt shots’ and other intimate images that are shared without women’s consent are clear violations of women’s right to go about their business in a public place."
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scottish-women-secretly-filmed-images-5710673
I didn't know this happened till I read the article in today's Sunday Mail. It is very wrong and disturbing to think your mother or sister could be filmed innocently going about their day and it ending up on a adult site.
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People have been photobombed in some of the pictures and vids I've taken in public at events. It can't be helped, but I will never publish any of it on an internet site for everybody to see.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photobombing
I've published some photos on DS of the fish we had caught when fishing with my friend, but in all cases I have blanked out his face for privacy reasons.
I agree it is very wrong.
I think this is worse than innocent photobombing though your not filming up women's skirts without their consent in a supermarket and posting it on adult sites for men to masturbate over.
Is the OP aware it is actually 2015 ?
Of course. That is just well out of order.
I have taken some very explicit photos of women with their consent in a private residence where nobody else can see and these will never get published on an internet site.
I am aware it is 2015 but it is terrible women can't walk about the street without being unknowingly filmed and put on a porn site. More needs to be done to highlight this issue and make people aware to be vigilant for it.
are you saying that photographing up the skirts of women and posting the results on adult sites for the titillation of others without their knowledge is acceptable because it`s 2015?
there`s a word for men like that.
are you sure about that?
They would undoubtedly be aware that what they are doing is degrading, humiliating and indecent. They would know that if / when the women they photograph find out that such images of them are on the internet that they would be distressed. This is part of the thrill for such men.
It is the persistent subjugation of women as sex objects that gives such men not only the opportunity to do such things, but the pleasure of knowing that what they do will cause suffering to women, that enhances the thrill.
From reading previous posts it appears that the men in this group also find this behaviour unacceptable. This, and other sexual abuse are legitimate causes for women's groups to combat and I hope that men will see that women fighting sexual abuse is a rightful cause, and be less critical of feminists in the future.
We are humans and are not sexual playthings to be abused for whatever form of gratification the abusers get from it.
Where women take part in the sex entertainment industry of their own free will then that is their choice and they have every right to do what they do, but it would be of immense value if good gentlemen would have greater understanding of women's legitimate demands not to be sexually abused and join us in combating it.
http://www.heforshe.org/
Perhaps this instance will show the sort of dirty, degrading, humiliating behaviours that some men get up to for their gratification. Are you with us in fighting this..?
If the ladies want to look their best and present themselves flaunting their sexuality, don't blame healthy males for enjoying the sight! If there's nothing to identify the lady in question, how exactly does it hurt her in any way?
Can I stress that this viewpoint ONLY applies to general views readily available to the public - NOT upskirt shots. Personally I'm not inclined to do such things, but I'm intrigued by the logic people apply to this. I shall enjoy sensible discussion on this one.
A woman might not mind to a man having a cheeky glance but I don't think many women would be happy being filmed without consent and put on a porn site for men's pleasure all over the world, whether we see her face or not. I understand some of the women are holding their kids or pushing them in trolleys and they can be identified. I don't think many dads would be happy about that.
I'd be quite happy if I were considered attractive enough to be filmed from behind. If I were to work with someone who one day said "I saw a bloke on a website and it looks just like you" (this is so unlikely it's hilarious) I'd be quite smug about it. If I could bring such joy to the world, why not?
With the greatest respect, very very few women wear everyday clothing to "flaunt their sexuality". Some may do on a night out, or at another occasion, but going to Tesco to do the weekly shop is not seen by the vast majority as an excuse to show off their legs. We wear what we wear because we are comfortable in those clothes today, or have just bought something nice and want to wear it out. Women wearing clothes to titillate strange men in public is far and away well down the list of reasons for wearing something.
I read your post fully and can see what you're saying, but perhaps you might be a little more circumspect about the use of such phrases.
As for "healthy men" looking at women, well, there's no law against that. But if you think we don't notice, think again. Women can be very sensitive to being ogled and leered at. Please try to be discreet. Standing at the bus stop having your breasts openly leered at by a man with both his hands moving around in his trouser pockets will make most women feel uncomfortable.
It's about discretion isn't it..? Yes, I agree that men will "check women out", and some girls might feel flattered on occasions, but please just try to be thoughtful, unintrusive and sensitive to how the woman may feel about it.
Not too much to ask, is it..?
I think that a simpler version of the website (just general views, no upskirts) would be a celebration of how wonderful a sexy human being is, involving the generosity of people willing to share views that they have enjoyed and would like other people to enjoy too.
I'm keen to hear how precisely that general principle is viewed.
creepy, sleazy and unpleasant.
This website is where women post pictures of men they consider hot and sometimes even shows the men's bulges who are travelling on the tube. I don't think consent has always been obtained from the men for their photos to be posted here.
Do the female members here agree that this website is degrading to men also and that these photos should also not be posted without the man's consent?
i don`t think it`s right whoever you are.
I agree with you Annette however I would imagine the authorities would not take a male complaint as seriously as a female one in situations like this.
on the basis that this is about a newspaper article highlighting the need to clamp down neither are taken seriously.
unless men start complaining to the authorities about it they are not going to get heard either.
Acceptable
b) Person enjoys view of a nice animal, meal, building, aircraft, car, etc, takes photo/video, shares online.
Acceptable
c) Person enjoys view of a nice face. Takes photo/video, shares online.
Acceptable with permission, not acceptable without? This is one aspect I find intriguing. With a "long" lens a face can be captured without the subject being aware. Personally I'd be very flattered if a good shot of me were the subject of general approval and enjoyment, your mileage may vary.
d) Person enjoys view of nice body in public, clothed enough to be considered decent by local standards, person cannot be identified easily (if at all). Takes photo/video, shares online.
Acceptable or not? If not, why not? If you say no, is it because you have issues with sexuality?
Kneel down to get something off the bottom shelf/tie a shoelace/pick something up?
as a photographer i think it`s wrong not to ask permission, generally.
as a potential photographee i think it`s wrong not to ask permission, generally.
or just hold your camera hand low.