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EE: Will Patrick remain ill forever
Tiernan_Mccarth
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Just wanted to know whether or not EE are intending on having Patrick to remain a stroue victim on the show for good or whther the story is going to be wrapped up. Must be annoying for Rudolph to have to keep slurring each line
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I can't help but feel your OP is a little Ignorant and naive regarding strokes and just how much damage/ an affect they can have on peoples lives
I think they've handled it beautifully, and with realism.
Rudolph is an actor that has been on the show for nearly fifteen years now. I know if I was him, I'd relish the chance of doing something like this that's totally away from his usual character.
I hope the character does make a full recovery because I care about Patrick, but in real life people aren't that lucky. However, his speech has improved in recent months which is a really good sign.
I'd love EE to tackle Alzheimers for a long running character. It happens to the elderly so often and for someone like, say, Pam or Dot, it'd be a brilliant storyline.
To be honest I'd say his and Denise's dynamic has probably given EE the most consistent 'kitchen sink' element over the last year.
I don't know but if they do, good on them.
Strokes are horrible things that do take years to recover from, some people never fully do. It is good that they should reflect this.
Exactly.
He has actually recovered much better than many other stroke victims - he does have some quality of life in that he can interact with his friends and loved ones and get out with help. I bet many would give their eye teeth to be doing as well (or have the parent they are caring for doing so well) after 8 months.
As with any important 'real' issue (rape, cancer, bereavement, depression to name another few) it is a fine line to tread.
They don't want to paint an incredibly negative picture as that runs the risk of causing real life sufferers or victims to lose hope of any light at the end of the tunnel and just give up their fight. However, having a cure all, HEA within weeks runs the risk of really insulting and offending anybody going through it in real life, plus giving some people an unrealistic expectation as to how long things take. Kind of 'why isn't such and such better after 6 months, they must be mllking it if they're not.
So, i think the way they are handling it, showing slow but steady improvement but it still being very life altering, draining and depressing for him and his Carers is the most realistic and sensitive way to do it.
Rudolf is playing a blinder.
BIB Isn't he just. I've been very impressed with both his acting and the way it's been written. For many stroke victims this is as good as it gets, but those little triumphs of being able to communicate, feed themselves and move about without a wheelchair mean so much.
His scene with Denise and Kim as Pearl was getting christened was incredibly moving. He may as well be like her grandfather, such is his bond with the Fox sisters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YcFgjLO8_U
Nowadays, Jim hardly gets a mention. I know the actor has died, but the last I knew, Jim was still alive. With Dot now in prison for causing Nick's death, they have to say something.
Maybe Charlie will get a letter through the post saying that Jim has died, or something. The producers need to get Jim mentioned soon. He will start to wonder why Dot isn't visiting him at the moment.
Anyway, so disappointed that Stan is leaving soon. Love Timothy West in so many things that he's done over the years, including Tales of the Unexpected and Goodnight Sweetheart, to name but a few. I've warmed to his character a lot. I'm used to him being in EE.
Apparently Timothy West filmed his last scene only a few days ago, so it will only be a month or so before we see Stan's passing. Kellie Bright has already filmed her bits for Stan's Funeral episode.
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/79/590x/secondary/Linda-Carter-return-to-EastEnders-236756.jpg
Linda's bump looks a bit bigger that it is on TV at the moment. She'd be about six months gone by the time Stan's funeral happens.
How can you say that? What an absurd thing to say!
Jim was completely different simply because the actor actually had a stroke. From memory they had storyline loads of stuff about Jim's paternal relationship with Max and Jack, how max had been neglected, and almost abused due to 'frarternising' with black children and talking his Mum's side before being banished when he divorced Rachel for Tanya whilst Jack was the 'golden' child despite being a bent copper.
But Bardon had a stroke and whilst they tried to keep him in it proved impossible. They have actually done quite a good job of Dot trying to cope before feeling she had to put him in a home and mentions have been made of people as well as Dot visiting him. Derek was apparently good at this despite his many other faults.
They will write Jim out in good time, with an off screen death and on screen funeral, as befitting the respect the character and actor deserves. But it won't be rushed.
Patrick is different, they have given the storyline so a (as far as we know) physically strong and fit actor that can portray it for a couple of years
How is it absurd to say that now the actor has died, in time the character will too.
It is standard soap practise to do this when a long standing or elderly cast member dies. They kill the character off too so a funeral can happen on screen allowing both the character and actor to be honored. Happened with Mike Reid (Frank Butcher), on emmerdale it happEned with Richard Thorp (Alan), Clive Hornby (Jack), Stan Richards (Seth), in corrie it happened with Betty Driver (Betty Turpin), Magie Smith (Blanche Hunt). It will happen here too within a couple of years at most.
Really not sure that is clear since the post immediately above by Toggerpooh was about Jim.
Sulla, could you clarify who you were referring ti?
Having said that, my mum had a stroke in the late 90's and while she recovered to some extent in terms of movement, she never fully regained full movement and we've recently been told her neck arteries are badly blocked too. I wonder if thats what caused the stroke in the first place.
It must be really annoying for stroke victims too...
What a naive comment to make. The actor will play the role as he is directed...that's what acting is all about. Stroke victims don't make a full recovery over night (some, if not most, never make a full recovery at all).
If only real life could be "wrapped up" and made peachy...
Post 15 refers to Patrick.