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EE - Dean: "I don't need to do that"
lollipop1995
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Was anyone else disturbed when Dean said this to Shirley the other night? It made me convinced that he knows damn well that he raped Linda and he's aware that it was not consensual at all. That line just made me think that Dean believes rape is okay! He doesn't even seem disgusted or horrified(as an innocent person would be) at Linda's "lies", he just seems frustrated and annoyed! Did anyone else pick up on this?
Maybe I read too much into what he said because as far as I know, we are still not meant to know if Dean is utterly deluded and has convinced himself that he didn't rape Linda
Personally I think he knows exactly what he did (if not at the moment, then he knows at the back of his mind)
Maybe I read too much into what he said because as far as I know, we are still not meant to know if Dean is utterly deluded and has convinced himself that he didn't rape Linda
Personally I think he knows exactly what he did (if not at the moment, then he knows at the back of his mind)
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I think Dean is trying hard to convince himself (and others) that he's not a rapist, but deep down, you see glimpses and it seems pretty clear that he knows.
All that stuff he's said is so creepy isn't it. Ugh!
As for that line, I heard it as more in terms of "plenty of women throw themselves at me I don't need to rape another mans wife"
Agreed. That may have been where he finally realized what he'd done for the first time. Hearing those words "did she say no" probably brought it all back for him as he remembered her asking him to stop.
Of course, we know that it wasn't.
I think the truth is somewhere between these three.
At the time I thought he smiled because he got a reaction out of her and felt that she would not have reacted so strongly had she not been secretly attracted to him, because in his mind - why didn't she just push him away instead of slapping him and why get so mad/angry about a silly drunken pass?
Which reports? the one I read here..
Matt Di Angelo, who plays Dean, explained last week: "Before the rape, Linda is comforting Dean and she says, 'You're just like Lee, you bottle everything up. I'll make you a hot chocolate, it's Johnny's favourite drink'. He's just like, 'I'm not one of your kids, stop looking at me so maternal'.
"He just snatches it out of her. When Dean walks out [of] the room, he's just thinking, 'You'll never look at me like one of your sons again'. It's just horrible."
Read more: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a601344/potd-eastenders-linda-carter-left-devastated-by-rape-ordeal.html#~p2qawo2YczhHl8#ixzz3PsJ3khMv
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Matt gave accounts of men he spoke to who all said when first accused of rape their initial reaction was to deny it and believe it was consentual. Lets face it who is ever going to admit straight away they raped someone? denial is part of the course for these people, plus all those guys were also convicted rapists so at some point admitted their guilt.. that's the important thing people aren't understanding in their defence of Dean ''not knowing''
People have taken Matt's actual words and twisted them into something there weren't.
For me that was the crux of the scene but it's been somewhat overlooked.
Dean has convinced himself that by slapping him and saying no Linda was just being coy and not rejecting him, and he wasn't going to let another woman reject him, Shirley Lauren Stacey and now Linda!
He is actually a very dangerous young man, in another thread today I said I thought it unlikely that Dean would rape again, that attacking Linda was a culmination of a set of circumstances and events that led him to commit this awful act but actually I am not so sure, what happens the next time a girl rejects him? If Dean isn't charged this time I wonder if this is where the story is going?
Totally. EE made a point of saying Dean shaved the hair off his ex girlfriend because she cheated on him. It was a totally random conversation that had no merits in the episode it was mentioned in. I mean that is pretty much the stuff of psychos. The need to embarrass and control someone like that isn't in any way the actions of someone who 'misread the signs' and I'm still convinced that girl will come into play at some point and maybe even play a part in Dean's ultimate downfall if it transpires he raped her too. There was no other reason to let the audience know of this incident unless it was important.
I agree with everything in this post.
When Dean first came back, he was visiting Stan and talked a bit about being in some trouble because he had slept with a girlfriend's best friend. It sounded at the time like he had just been a lousy boyfriend, but now I'm wondering if there was more to it than that. I wouldn't be surprised if Linda wasn't the first person was raped after rejecting Dean.
As its late im going to give you one example:-
A quote from Inside soap
"In Dean's head, he's done nothing wrong - he'd deluded and thinks that he and Linda had some kind of consensual relationship" our Eastenders insider reminds us.
Many of the reports of this storyline say quite similar things and as they write the storylines id have thought that they know what they're writing and how it is intended?
Im off to bed now, goodnight
I understood his logic to be I am capable of getting a woman, I wouldn't need to force someone because he can't accept yet that it wasn't reciprocal attraction/desire.
Oh an EE ''insider'' lol
I would sooner listen to Matt himself.
It seems to me that he didn't expect his denial to be believed, and that is because he knows he forced himself on Linda, whether he calls that rape, or not. He knows he's guilty, imo . He's in the habit of getting away with things by being 'charming' >:(