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BT TV and YouView for those without Infinity
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I wanted to start this thread just to get it absolutely clear about those of us with YouView, BT Vision but without BT Infinity might hope to receive once BT Sport launches on 1st August.
I've just used BT's online Chat Assistance: Good idea but their scripts are able to give me the info I need. However, they told me there that I would receive BT Sport on my YouView box without Infinity. My reading of the recent press release is that I won't be able to receive it or the extra IPTV channels.
Can anyone shed any light? VisionMan?
I've just used BT's online Chat Assistance: Good idea but their scripts are able to give me the info I need. However, they told me there that I would receive BT Sport on my YouView box without Infinity. My reading of the recent press release is that I won't be able to receive it or the extra IPTV channels.
Can anyone shed any light? VisionMan?
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Hi. What you have been told sounds like tosh. But until the YouView announcements are made, I would just be speculating.
General question - As far as I am aware the YV box does not have a CI card slot (often referred to as a CAM). Is this correct?
They will be received via an aerial, not via IPTV. This will require you to be in an area that can receive the full Freeview service, not a Freeview 'Lite' service.
Thats the way I understand it too. And to decode the encrypted DTT transmission one needs a box with a CI slot for a conditional access card. Which a YouView box doesn't have. But a BTV box does.
What a strange turn of events this is.
It makes you wonder whether the Pace version of the Youview box (that BT had to bin) would have had a CI slot for exactly these instances.
I also notice that BT aren't yet taking orders for BT sport if you're in an non-infinity area, which makes me think that Openreach are working double quick to enable as many networks as possible before they have to commit to giving people sport over DTT.
In other words, don't be surprised if you network gets enabled very soon...
Have BT made a mistake with betting the house on YouView?
This is speculation on my part - and it would have to be a cut-down service (fewer channels, probably SD only, and excluding people with very slow adsl connections).
They will probably have their hands full initially though, handling the Sports-Infinity sign-ups, and they may want to wait and see how that goes, first.
Um. Agree. And on copper, a line speed of only 5Mbps would be required to recieve a Multicast signal. So say, 7Mbps for overall household internet usage.
Strange days. And a retrograde move too.
Bizarre...
The CS rep said that I would get email or call shortly before that date to be able to use these channels.
When I said that I had Freesat from Sky he said that he could take the card number so that it would work on 1st Aug, this being the 'preferred option'.
Not quite as you have to allow for 2 HD signals being received simultaneously while watching HD on demand at the same time. HD is about 7Mb, so 21Mb in total + some for domestic use.
I don't know the hardware is in place at the exchange to allow ADSL multicast and given that the intention seems to be to send ADSL the way of dialup in the next couple of years I can't see them putting in the investment. I suppose they could do unicast for those who need it, but if there were a lot of customers on the exchange that could cause a whole set of other contention problems.
Push comes to shove they're in a period of migration and that means growing pains. So I kind of sympathise that it's not trivial to cater for all possible permutations, but doing the best they can for the majority is about all they can do. Major bummer for those not covered by that, though. Maybe that's why they've held off this long getting this going.
Guilbo, what D@ve said in post #10. Its true.
And my exchange is already enabled for both fibre and ADSL Multicast TV. At first I thought it was for the TalkTalk network, but I now know different. As its now on the Openreach website -
https://www.btwholesale.com/pages/static/Products/Broadband/TV_Connect/index.htm
And heres a very informed article on it -
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5800-bt-tv-connect-service-to-carry-live-tv-channels-over-wbc-network.html
Interesting times. And if you've got any questions, I'll answer them if I can.
Darren
BT's information to date has said they are only making BT Sport 1 & 2 available to YouView users that bought their YouView box directly from BT. If I remember correctly in previous posts you have said you bought your YouView box yourself from a shop, in which case you might be out of luck - for the near future at least.
Erm... Sorry to add to this sea of confusion but does anyone know what on earth this is all about??? -
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd-audio/digital-tv-services/freeview-recorders/bt-youview-hd-recorder-500-gb-21354532-pdt.html#longDesc
Its a BT YouView box, sold at retail. And have you seen the price!?! :eek:
Two people from two different forums have now emailed PC World to say they've made a mistake.
PC World prices and [lack of] competence. :rolleyes:
Or you could get the internally identical Humax version from Amazon for £229, post free. :cool:
Or a John Lewis 1TB YouView T1010 box for £250.
http://www.johnlewis.com/humax-dtr-t1010-youview-smart-1tb-freeview-hd-digital-tv-recorder/p231880515?kpid=231880515&s_kenid=29771575-3ac8-7b09-7346-0000482fa2cd&s_kwcid=ppc_pla&tmad=c&tmcampid=73
Since it is a BT Branded YouView box, as you would get from BT, it might get the update required.
I have taken what BT have said to mean that non BT branded YouView boxes will not receive the update and so will not be able to get the channels.
That dont sound to good.
Maybe I will just have to make do with getting the BT sport channels online and via an app for now them.
Darren