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Susan Boyle going to sing for the pope
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What does everyone one think
Is she going to pull it, its going to be her biggest performance ever, I hope she does us scots proud
Is she going to pull it, its going to be her biggest performance ever, I hope she does us scots proud
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I hope the world doesn't think that jabbering bag of nerves represents us as a nation! Oh the shame.
Don't you just love it when people speak on your behalf?
Susan Boyle doesn't make me proud to be Scottish, I'm not proud to be Scotttish, I didn't choose where I was born no more than I chose the color of my skin, patriotism is just an extension of chauvinism, which stems from fascism, which I don't agree with - the concept of being "proud" of ones country is a notion that has always confused me.
Not really much to write home about compared to Catholic priest's habits for lifting vestments and waggling something else.
and they are both virgins unless you count Piers Morgan and choirboys.
Try telling that to people who have had their country invaded and had to defend it. I'd say the Finnish, who repelled an attack from Russia, have every right to feel proud. If they weren't a proud race they'd have fallen in a heartbeat.
Patriotism isn't always a negative thing.
Funnily enough I'm not proud to be Scottish though. We're a small minded nation with a huge chip on our shoulder. We have some of the worst social stats in Europe but blame everyone else for it. I love all these neds who proclaim to be patriotic then promptly dump their pizza box on the pavement.
Loving one's country is to cherish it, look after it. Our complete failing's to do so makes me unproud. If we could address the issue then perhaps I'll feel proud again one day. Seems unlikely in our neddy society though.
Defending and standing up for the innocent people around you strikes me as basic humanity more than patriotism.
Except what you described wasn't patriotism.
I agree with you on Neds/Chavs.
^^^This.
Because being patriotic can unite a people against tyranny, being humanitarian won't cut it. It's not humanity. A unified country will defend itself till death. A country with an apathetic attitude towards national pride will fall and fall quickly. Just human nature.
Anyway, this Susan Boyle woman.....
If it were THAT then Rhwanda would never have happened. Or Yugoslavia or any other nation that tore itself apart.
Humanitarians don't win wars. Sorry.
I don't see any connection between national pride and hatred of/rebellion against tyranny.