Radio 1 risks trouble tomorrow night.
chemical2009b
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As part of Zane Lowe's Masterpieces, Fatboy Slim's You've Come a Long Way Baby will be played in full and uncut as with all the other albums they have done which means the third track on the album F****** In Heaven which contains 108expletitives is likely to air at the 8pm hour. Wonder how many complaints the BBC and Ofcom will recieve assuming they do that?
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Well the show will be plastered with warnings and I don't know how many people without a specific interest in this type of music listen after 8 anyway. There seems to be no reports of complaints over Jay Z's Black album full of F's and N's last night.
I did find it odd that they didn't, as per the years before, decide to play the albums after 9pm just to be safe though.
It's a R1 Masterpiece!
Most "masterpiece" albums are too old and "pre-music" for 21st Century R1!
But it's all subjective isn't it ?
What you or I might consider a masterpiece, someone else won't. I personally found Jay Z's Black album quite amazing as i'd never listened to it in it's entirety before.
Haha! We were speaking about Simon Bates just last night. I mentioned Simon Mayo's "Our Tune" and quickly got shot down as it was originally Bates' feature. Too young to remember and only remember Mayo's version!! lol
Now then! Now then! how's about Jimmy Savile's Old Record Club on a Sunday Afternoon. Wham! at number one, twenty five years ago, guys 'n' gals!
This week I produced a podcast of 1930s music, and took the decision to edit out the N word from a 1932 version of 'The Sun Has Got His Hat On'.
I think the lyrics were changed for the Me And My Girl west end show in 1938, is that right?
Depends of the programme too - if it's exploring the way songs were written back then and the social climate of the time I'd say leaving it in would be fine. But if it's just back to back music, with few links or explainations, you'd have to be careful.
What about the person who has radio 1 tuned in their car, hasn't heard it for days and goes for a drive around the time it's on, or someone who happens to be tuning through stations and hasn't heard the warning either.
Most people who listen to Radio 1 won't mind language, but anyone who randomly just tuned in to find a song full of it might be a bit shocked.
I don't know, but I'll put money on the Daily Mail trying to find thejm right now
I did wonder that myself as well, but I imagine that ofcom would want to be reasonably satisfied that R1 made every possible effort to warn people about the offending language.
I guess they must realise that there will always be a percentage of people who would tune in randomly, so maybe there's some kind of acceptable 'collateral damage' of sorts ?
The test would be whether the BBC had done everything they reasonably could have to warn listeners of the content before the broadcast, not during it.
There was a classic case on TV a few years ago where Spooks showed a scene of a woman having her head pushed into an acid bath. Compliants were upheld because the BBC hadn't given an explicit enough warning in the link directly before the show.
It sounds like they've done plenty in this case.
I know with the Black album, they really couldn't have made it any clearer about the content.
Gonna give it a listen anyway, i haven't heard the full album before.
Breakfast shows means lot's of younger listeners therefore the audience expectation would mean no strong language, the same could be said about afternoon shows, however, it also depends on the station. Take Radio 4 / 7 which have had strong langugage present in their drama's / comedies with no complaints.
I listened to the Black Album on Zane's show the other night, there was only one warning before it was played in full. Zane Lowe is a specialist show, a warning was given, the audience were well aware of the week of shows going ahead.
As far as I am concerned, this is the what the BBC does best, no commercial station is going to start playing this album in full at 8pm.
After the Jay-Z album the other night, someone I know who I was talking to via Facebook had this to say about it.
"it was Zane Lowe's hour long break. He played Jay-Z's Black Album right through, which is a fine piece of work (if you like that kind of thing), but to be putting it out at 8pm uncensored is a bit much."
" I emailled the BBC about it. It's OK to be 'pioneering' in broadcasting, but there are certain parameters that need to be used. I don't suppose a mother picking up her eight year old from Cubs would have been too impressed hearing that in the car on the way home."
..... and I tend to agree.
Everyone is well aware of the TV watershed timings, even if they do push the boundaries at times. I believe most people associate radio, especially the BBC with the same thoughts.
If you don't like what you hear switch it over.
Also I would be surprised if an 8 year old would decide to put Radio 1 on the radio to listen to Zane Lowe
I'd have to agree with that I think.
Who says an 8 year old would be specifically listening to Zane Lowe.
I know my kids would listen to Galaxy as they play dance music and the hits. Though Galaxy change later in the evening and when it has been on in the car they don't believe me when I say it is Galaxy.
Guess that won't be the case with Galaxy for much longer mind and has shown signs of the continuous 'hits' for a while now. Sorry, off topic.
As so many say you don't often listen to an album from start to finish anymore.
They did say 13 mins in switch of for 4 mins if you will be offended. If people don't turn off then don't complain.
There's still the juvenile in me that giggles at hearing naughty words at this time of night on the TV or Radio ...