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The missing £1

HieronymousHieronymous Posts: 7,290
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Can anyone remember - because I can't - the riddle involving three guys (I think) going to a restaurant wherein there was some sort of buggering about with the money and the end result was that a £1 had, somehow, mysteriously vanished?

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 36,630
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    The waiter pocketed it when they weren't looking?.
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    InMyArmsInMyArms Posts: 50,792
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    Put it in the slot machine?
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    coughthecatcoughthecat Posts: 6,876
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    Can anyone remember - because I can't - the riddle involving three guys (I think) going to a restaurant wherein there was some sort of buggering about with the money and the end result was that a £1 had, somehow, mysteriously vanished?

    This one?

    Three people enjoy a meal at a restaurant. The waiter brings the bill for £30 so each person pays £10.

    Later the chef realises that the bill should have only been £25 so she sends the waiter back to the table with £5. The waiter was not very good at Maths and could not figure out how to divide the £5 so he gave each person a £1 and kept £2 for himself.

    So....the three people have paid £9 each for the meal.
    9x3=27

    The waiter kept £2
    27+2 = £29

    What happened to the other pound?
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    TheMaskTheMask Posts: 10,219
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    you saw a shirt for £97
    you didn't have the cash, so you borrowed £50 from your mum and £50 from you dad
    (50 + 50 = 100)
    you bought the shirt,and had £3 change.
    you gave your dad £1 and your mum £1
    and kept the other £1 for yourself.
    now you owe your mum £49 and your dad £49
    £49+49=98 + your £1 = £99
    Where Is The Missing £1?
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    rupert_pupkinrupert_pupkin Posts: 3,975
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    I know what you're talking about, something like they all paid their share and got some change but there was a pound missing

    Can't remember how it goes though

    Edit - too slow
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    HieronymousHieronymous Posts: 7,290
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    This one?

    Three people enjoy a meal at a restaurant. The waiter brings the bill for £30 so each person pays £10.

    Later the chef realises that the bill should have only been £25 so she sends the waiter back to the table with £5. The waiter was not very good at Maths and could not figure out how to divide the £5 so he gave each person a £1 and kept £2 for himself.

    So....the three people have paid £9 each for the meal.
    9x3=27

    The waiter kept £2
    27+2 = £29

    What happened to the other pound?


    Thanks. That sounds like the one though I don't think that's quite how I first heard it. Same principle though.
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    HieronymousHieronymous Posts: 7,290
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    TheMask wrote: »
    you saw a shirt for £97
    you didn't have the cash, so you borrowed £50 from your mum and £50 from you dad
    (50 + 50 = 100)
    you bought the shirt,and had £3 change.
    you gave your dad £1 and your mum £1
    and kept the other £1 for yourself.
    now you owe your mum £49 and your dad £49
    £49+49=98 + your £1 = £99
    Where Is The Missing £1?

    Thanks. Same principle but the one I heard was the restaurant one.
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    SkycladSkyclad Posts: 3,946
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    TheMask wrote: »
    you saw a shirt for £97
    you didn't have the cash, so you borrowed £50 from your mum and £50 from you dad
    (50 + 50 = 100)
    you bought the shirt,and had £3 change.
    you gave your dad £1 and your mum £1
    and kept the other £1 for yourself.
    now you owe your mum £49 and your dad £49
    £49+49=98 + your £1 = £99
    Where Is The Missing £1?

    It paid for the plastic bag.
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    CravenHavenCravenHaven Posts: 13,953
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    I spent it at the 99p shop. But I can't remember how much I had left.
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    rupert_pupkinrupert_pupkin Posts: 3,975
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    Schmiznurf wrote: »

    Grrrrr I've been going round in circles

    Each man paid £9 for a £25 meal = £27 and the waiter kept the extra £2. The number 30 doesn't come into it

    I'm happy with that and I'm never thinking about it again
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 949
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    I've read the answer and it still doesn't help :o
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,530
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    Boofie wrote: »
    I've read the answer and it still doesn't help :o

    By only refunding them £1 each, the waiter has overcharged them in total by £2, which they un-knowingly gave to him instead of the hotel. They paid £27, he stole £2 from that, so the £2 needs to come off, i.e. £27 minus £2 = £25, which is the revised bill and is all the hotel ever see. The £2 relates to the new bill of £25 and has nothing to do with the original bill.

    To get back to the original £30, you just add back the 'price reduction' of £5.
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    gemma-the-huskygemma-the-husky Posts: 18,116
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    Its also Lord Dundreary's Finger Puzzle.

    Same thing. Adding and subtracting within the same puzzle.
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    seacamseacam Posts: 21,364
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    Hang on,

    I get you subtract and not add but working it out the way it's told, what has happen to the other £1? :confused:
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    PlundermotPlundermot Posts: 281
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    Of the original £30, the restaurant/chef has £25, the customers have £1 each and the waiter has £2. There is no missing pound - basically the question itself is wrong.

    Looking at it another way, they've paid £9 x 3 = £27: the restaurant/chef has £25 of it and the waiter has the other £2.
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    BerBer Posts: 24,562
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    The customers only think they have paid £9 (£27) as they received £1 (£3) back, they don't know that the waiter has stolen £2.

    The £9 figure is irrelevent to the actual sum as it isn't the 'true' amount.
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    Slarti BartfastSlarti Bartfast Posts: 6,607
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    What everyone is forgetting is inflation means that pound is now only worth 60p.
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    HieronymousHieronymous Posts: 7,290
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    As with many of these types of 'riddles' it's the way it's presented that causes the confusion. As Plundermot says the question is 'wrong'.

    Let me see if I can, er clarify it clearly.

    £30 is paid initially.

    It is then realised that it should only be £25

    £5 is given to the waiter to refund.

    He realises that he cannot share £5 equally

    So he gives each of the three £1

    £25+(£1+£1+£1)= £28

    The waiter keeps £2 for himself

    £28+£2=£30

    But, presented in the way it is, it appears that a £1 has vanished.
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    shackfanshackfan Posts: 15,461
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    The 3 paid £30.

    They are given back £3.

    The restaurant then has £25 and the waiter has £2.

    Just a daft riddle, made deliberately confusing by twisting it all around. There is no missing £1.
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    CravenHavenCravenHaven Posts: 13,953
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    you think so? I think the thread is more like this
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    Paul_DNAPPaul_DNAP Posts: 26,041
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    seacam wrote: »
    Hang on,

    I get you subtract and not add but working it out the way it's told, what has happen to the other £1? :confused:

    The last part of the question basically asks "why does 27 + 2 not equal 30" - and then tells you there is a 1 missing.

    The reason it's nonesense is that there is no logical reason to do the additon 27 + 2 in the first place. That's why it doesn't give the result it tells you to expect.

    Logically you need to take the price everyone ended up paying 9x3 = 27, then subtract the £2 the waiter kept 27 - 2 = 25 which equals the price of the meal.

    What also adds up to 30 is the price of the meal 25 plus the 3x£1 change they got plus the £2 kept by the waiter, 25+3+2 = 30.
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    seacamseacam Posts: 21,364
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    Misdirection, thank you Paul for explaining it :)
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    callmedivacallmediva Posts: 1,862
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    spookily, I was thinking about this a couple of days ago. Couldn't quite remember it, though
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