Chilcot bumped until after the General Election

InspirationInspiration Posts: 62,694
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No one will be surprised by this. Disgusted, perhaps. Surprised, no.

Chilcot will detail tomorrow that the report won't be published until after May due to the process of allowing witnesses to respond to allegations within it being unable to be completed pre GE.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30908938
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/20/chilcot-report-iraq-war-delayed-general-election

1448 days and waiting.
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  • clinchclinch Posts: 11,574
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    Looking after their own.
  • MattNMattN Posts: 2,534
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    Cameron trying to drop a bomb on a potential Labour government before they get their feet under the table?
  • TelevisionUserTelevisionUser Posts: 41,395
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    No one will be surprised by this. Disgusted, perhaps. Surprised, no.

    Chilcott will detail tomorrow that the report won't be published until after May due to the process of allowing witnesses to respond to allegations within it being unable to be completed pre GE.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30908938

    1448 days and waiting.

    This really does piss me off (along with the slow progress on establishment paedophile arrests). It brings politics into disrepute and reinforces the public's view that the ruling political elite (irrespective of who's in No. 10) is an entirely corrupt and self-protecting class.
  • InspirationInspiration Posts: 62,694
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    This really does piss me off (along with the slow progress on establishment paedophile arrests). It brings politics into disrepute and reinforces the public's view that the ruling political elite (irrespective of who's in No. 10) is an entirely corrupt and self-protecting class.

    We'll see what Chilcot says tomorrow and I imagine it will come in PMQs too. Cameron seems to be taking a "Nothing to do with me guv" position on it all.. but it will be interesting to see if Chilcot puts any blame on anyone for the length of time we've been waiting.
  • Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    MattN wrote: »
    Cameron trying to drop a bomb on a potential Labour government before they get their feet under the table?
    Allegedly Call Me doesn't have influence on the publication date
  • clinchclinch Posts: 11,574
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    This really does piss me off (along with the slow progress on establishment paedophile arrests). It brings politics into disrepute and reinforces the public's view that the ruling political elite (irrespective of who's in No. 10) is an entirely corrupt and self-protecting class.

    Perhaps they can put Chilcott in charge of the Westminster child abuse inquiry.
  • BrokenArrowBrokenArrow Posts: 21,665
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    No one will be surprised by this. Disgusted, perhaps. Surprised, no.

    Chilcot will detail tomorrow that the report won't be published until after May due to the process of allowing witnesses to respond to allegations within it being unable to be completed pre GE.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30908938
    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/20/chilcot-report-iraq-war-delayed-general-election

    1448 days and waiting.

    1448 days?

    That's another 3 years !
  • MC_SatanMC_Satan Posts: 26,512
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    What a surprise.
  • InspirationInspiration Posts: 62,694
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    1448 days?

    That's another 3 years !

    That's how long we've been waiting for the final report.
  • jojoenojojoeno Posts: 1,842
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    Some really bad smells are coming from this and in particular the murder of Dr Kelly and the Judicial Inquiry cover up that followed under a establishment safe High Court judge from NI and the very narrow brief the Judge had to work within.


    The UK government under Blair was Bush's poodle and many thousands were killed because of it and the rise of ISIS and the daily murders now taking place.
  • AndyCopenAndyCopen Posts: 2,213
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    We need to read it now

    Socialist covering up their own shit i think
  • MC_SatanMC_Satan Posts: 26,512
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    AndyCopen wrote: »
    We need to read it now

    Socialist covering up their own shit i think

    Establishment in general I think.
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 102,975
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    AndyCopen wrote: »
    We need to read it now

    Socialist covering up their own shit i think

    To be fair the main delay has been the wrangling between Chilcot and Cameron over the extent to which prime ministerial conversations can be published

    Not surprisingly Cameron was not happy to comply with Chilcot's request that Number 10 release the transcripts of Blair's conversations with foreign leaders, in particular Bush because of the precedent it wold set for himself and all future prime ministers

    That dragged on for ages
  • ArcticchrisArcticchris Posts: 672
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    Am I surprised......not in the slightest but I do think it is a further indictment of our political systems. Anyone expecting this not to be a whitewash is exceptionally trusting or naïve. The only explaining Blair should be doing is in the dock at The Hague>:(
  • Get Den WattsGet Den Watts Posts: 6,039
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    I don't think it matters at this late stage, apart to the families of the soldiers. Everyone has already made up their mind, one way or another over Iraq.
  • ArcticchrisArcticchris Posts: 672
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    I don't think it matters at this late stage, apart to the families of the soldiers. Everyone has already made up their mind, one way or another over Iraq.

    I fully concur with the above, it is highly unlikely anything truly revelatory that could change peoples views would be released publically and so much water has already flowed under this particular bridge.
  • swingalegswingaleg Posts: 102,975
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    I fully concur with the above, it is highly unlikely anything truly revelatory that could change peoples views would be released publically and so much water has already flowed under this particular bridge.

    apart from anything else people appear to have a huge misconception about what the Chilcot Enquiry is

    people seem to think it's a trial of Tony Blair

    it's nothing of the sort.........it's pretty much an enquiry into administrative practises to try and learn some lessons for the future conduct of government. The remit was 'to establish the way decisions were made, to determine what happened and to identify lessons to ensure that in a similar situation in future, the British government is equipped to respond in the most effective manner in the best interests of the country'

    the people who appeared in front of the enquiry were not being investigated, they were witnesses to the events
  • BelfastGuy125BelfastGuy125 Posts: 7,515
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    This is revolting.

    We citizens elect the government and yet in one of the biggest and most controversial decisions in decades, we are hidden from the TRUTH by these fools hiding behind closed doors.

    Disgraceful.
  • ArcticchrisArcticchris Posts: 672
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    swingaleg wrote: »
    apart from anything else people appear to have a huge misconception about what the Chilcot Enquiry is

    people seem to think it's a trial of Tony Blair

    it's nothing of the sort.........it's pretty much an enquiry into administrative practises to try and learn some lessons for the future conduct of government. The remit was 'to establish the way decisions were made, to determine what happened and to identify lessons to ensure that in a similar situation in future, the British government is equipped to respond in the most effective manner in the best interests of the country'

    the people who appeared in front of the enquiry were not being investigated, they were witnesses to the events

    I know its not a trial of Blair or even Parliament as a collective which is not to say that it shouldn't have been, merely that there was never any chance the establishment would put itself in the dock. As a holding exercise it has done its job to near perfection.
  • MARTYM8MARTYM8 Posts: 44,710
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    Sounds like the padeophile investigations seem to be going at a snails pace too with little progress.

    Should the law have to wait for an election - just to save the establishment parties.
  • deptfordbakerdeptfordbaker Posts: 22,368
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    It's been so long, I have forgotten what this report was all about!
  • SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    Dave might have to reluctantly release the report in April.
  • MajlisMajlis Posts: 31,362
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    SULLA wrote: »
    Dave might have to reluctantly release the report in April.

    Dave's (and especially Clegg) been chomping at the bit since 2010 to get it released in time for the next election - personally I cant see it happening now as it would be an unfair to Labour and an intrusion on the election. Isnt their some Parliamentary convention that prevents publishing of contentious reports in an election cycle?
  • niceguy1966niceguy1966 Posts: 29,560
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    Majlis wrote: »
    Dave's (and especially Clegg) been chomping at the bit since 2010 to get it released in time for the next election - personally I cant see it happening now as it would be an unfair to Labour and an intrusion on the election. Isnt their some Parliamentary convention that prevents publishing of contentious reports in an election cycle?

    1) I expect it's findings to be so bland it will be ridiculed (what other report gives those critised 3 years to respond in private?)
    2) If it does say anything interesting, it isn't "unfair".
  • David TeeDavid Tee Posts: 22,833
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    swingaleg wrote: »
    To be fair the main delay has been the wrangling between Chilcot and Cameron over the extent to which prime ministerial conversations can be published

    Not surprisingly Cameron was not happy to comply with Chilcot's request that Number 10 release the transcripts of Blair's conversations with foreign leaders, in particular Bush because of the precedent it wold set for himself and all future prime ministers

    That dragged on for ages

    Assumption, or fact? If so - any chance of a reference?
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