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How do women feel?
Sam Seed
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that you've been fooled by linda nolan. you guys spent the last month on here beating on about how jim is sexist, hates women, a misogynist yet all the mothers that that came on the show loved him? then goes on to win the show. 
even luiza said its mainly women that vote.
you guys must feel a little bit silly now after all the rubbish that was posted here
even luiza said its mainly women that vote.
you guys must feel a little bit silly now after all the rubbish that was posted here
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I am a woman and never once sided with Nolan, we could all see what she was up to, I wanted lovely Jim to win from day 1.
I think your thread title is a little misleading.
completely agree. i knew nothing about him before he went in and after launch night i thought id hate him. just seemed like a decent normal bloke
WHY do you talk like THIS?
I am still not a fan of his comedy or politics but I do think he has changed for the better.
Maybe what he went through made him take stock of things in his life.
It does happen.
I also like how he gracious he has been since winning and even Linda used that word to describe him.
So that is good.
Linda, I did not like how she was in the house (or even out of the house after the show) but I do think she was going for the whole nemesis storyline and unfortunately for her the public was not on her side.
It was funny to me when I saw a quote of Linda's that had these words..."You have to leave the past in the past "
and in an article that it was Jim that had the grudge and hadn't forgiven Linda for something that her husband had done.:D
I was very pleased that it is reported that Jim and Linda are going to be working together and I wish them both well.
I often find rubbish posted here... tempted... tempted... no let's move on.
You can't just lump all women together. Threads throughout the series show that plenty of women supported a variety of people, and many thought Davidson deserved to win.
But what makes your post veer to the rubbish pile is that, as you say, more women than men vote and that the first time Linda was up she was out the door, while Jim topped the vote as usual.
Just as he topped the forum's own vote polls each week.
Nor were those FMs who disliked Jim all women, and the female posters who did dislike him were not all Linda fans (she had very few).
I think it is quite sad and very common.
Linda Nolan had nothing to do with it, though. Personally, I think she could have challenged his sexism more cleverly, but her personal background with Jim made this difficult.
Luisa was more of a disappointment to me. She ended up 'agreeing to disagree' with Dappy, when his argument was obviously wrong and attitudes like his need challenging every day, until everyone understands that women should not be controlled any more than any man is. Her discussion with Jim, about why she had accused him of being sexist, led to her being browbeaten by Jim into blaming a supposedly 'erroneous' judgement on Linda. Yes, she may have laughed off some of his sexist attitudes, if Linda had not been there, but his sexist attitudes were expressed and real. She had every right to challenge them, as does anyone.
I find it really strange that men like Dappy and Jim are so sensitive about accusations of sexism, when they are perfectly happy to hold and express sexist attitudes. If you don't want to be thought of as sexist, don't be sexist. Simples!
What a silly question. You should know that all the anti-Jim posters will avoid this thread like the plague. They've been made to look very dull, they won't want to carry on digging when they can chat amongst themselves, slapping each other on the back, knowing they were right all along. Between them, they will attempt to write more about a 30 episode tv programme, than has ever been written about Ch 5 itself.
Anyway, got to go - real life beckons.
What a silly response.
Especially as my reply is just above yours. ;-)
I see. So because 3 mothers thought Jim was nice on the show, you think that means that Jim's not sexist? A leap, to put it mildly.
Jim likes women to conform to his idea(l) of the way women should act and be. That he got on best with Casey says it all.
Yes it says he got on best with an essentially nice person who didn't take any preconceived ideas about him into the house.
He also said that Sam was very classy and would love to see her career take off in the acting world. Sam in return said that he was really nice, looking after her when she was ill and making sure she drank fluids. Casey said she would have left, if it was not for her chat with Jim, when he made her put everything in perspective and got her laughing with his comic comments.
Not a typical misognist - a person who displays hatred towards members of the opposite sex.
I think discussing sexism with sexist men would be more productive, but, yes, we can shout if the men don't seem to want to listen. ;-)
Men like Dappy, calling women disgusting names for indulging in the same behaviour you accept from men, is obviously sexist. I don't know what definition of sexism would exclude such attitudes.
Same with Jim expecting women to do their husband's ironing. It should be an individual woman's choice and every different sex couple can make decisions between them on how they decide which household jobs to allocate to which person. These are pretty basic examples and I don't think it has anything to do with my definition of sexism.
People are allowed to dislike 'rude' people, whatever their sex. I just don't agree with having double standards in this regard.
Jim is still a sexist, IMO. Most people in the country didn't vote or watch it. Whatever people think of Linda Nolan, far too many people on here used misogynistic terms to express it. Those that do that aren't going to care about social issues too much. The same goes for people who are willing to vote for Jim.
I think too much was made of that, it was said tongue in cheek as was the 'they'll be putting irons in lads mags next'!
Not a misogynist?
Agree completely. There have been many worrying aspects to the tone of DSBB this series. For example, the criticism of Louisa and constant references to the effect it will have on her child and how her parents must feel; very few of the same comments, however, about Lee and Dappy.
There seem to be a lot of men (and sadly women) on here who have an innate anger towards women for some reason. No wonder, then, that Jim - who constantly needled the women and only built bonds with the males (and Casey; for the purposes of leching) - was their hero.
Maybe you hope it was tongue in cheek. I certainly didn't see it that way and his follow up rant about laundry and how men would just shrink everything if they had to do it, spoke volumes.
Totally agree, sadly.
No, it's about choice. The ironing needs doing (not as much as some people seem to think, mind you) and any couple can come to an agreement. If you both hate doing it, you can choose to do half each. If one of you enjoys it, they can choose to do it. Same with every household job. I'm not telling anyone what to do, but that is exactly what sexist people are doing. Jobs become 'traditionally' male or female because of sexist attitudes. We don't have to carry that on into every generation.