I am Irish living in the UK, and sometimes I do feel foreign here. But in reality, all the people of these islands are pretty much from the same stock.
They don't want to be part of the UK or British so they aren't, genetically and ethnically the Irish are the same as many Welsh, Scots, Northern Irish and Western English as most are Celts.
Well, for the purposes of Red Button BBC Teletext, the Republic of Ireland (ROI) comes under the foreign affairs section but the local Northern Ireland pages often cover matters from ROI.
I wish the BBC would put some weather and temperature symbols on southern Ireland (like Sky News do) even if they don't say anything because it's like they're pretending that this particular land mass doesn't exist when clearly it does.
... the local Northern Ireland pages often cover matters from ROI.
Be interesting to see what would happen if the Republic of Ireland decided to leave the Common Travel Area, and instead join the passport free Schengen Zone. There'd be fun and games at the NI / ROI border.
Be interesting to see what would happen if the Republic of Ireland decided to leave the Common Travel Area, and instead join the passport free Schengen Zone. There'd be fun and games at the NI / ROI border.
Culturally I'd see northern England as having more in common with Ireland than it does with southern England.
As someone born in NE I see no similarities to the Irish.
I often felt a kindrid spirit with the Scots rather than southern England.
I suppose that's why I never describe myself as English.
I feel British, and then, if I must, European.
I certaintly don't regard myself as English which I think culturally is more of a southern softie, cricket village greens with warm beer and Eton ****, Wimbledon and Henley (i.e. a bit middle / upper middle class).
Yes, they do. The British FCO is a bit behind the times and still thinks that Ireland is part of the United Kingdom.
Interestingly, there has been some talk of ROI re-joining the Commonwealth. They left in 1949.
...and they could then participate in the Commonwealth Games too. On a wider political and good will level, it might help relations between ROI and the north.
They don't want to be part of the UK or British so they aren't, genetically and ethnically the Irish are the same as many Welsh, Scots, Northern Irish and Western English as most are Celts.
The predominant DNA signature is Celtic/Iron Age Briton/Stone Age, what ever you want to call them, regardless of where you are in Britain.
Be interesting to see what would happen if the Republic of Ireland decided to leave the Common Travel Area, and instead join the passport free Schengen Zone. There'd be fun and games at the NI / ROI border.
There has not been a border between N.I and Eire for almost 15 years now.
The predominant DNA signature is Celtic/Iron Age Briton/Stone Age, what ever you want to call them, regardless of where you are in Britain.
Blimey! They've never married someone from elsewhere?
I don't know what the heck I'd be - half Cornish half Lancastrian :eek: I know the Cornish side dates back hundreds of years, pretty much in one place, but I don't know if any of them ever married a foreigner from elsewhere, i.e. the North
There has not been a border between N.I and Eire for almost 15 years now.
Depends what you mean by 'border'. A couple hundred metres from my home is the border between the London Boroughs of Hackey and Islington. There's scarcely any need for a checkpoint.
I've crossed the border between Mexico and the US, complete with checks, armed police and a wall.
Northern Ireland and Eire share a common land border. NI is part of the UK and Eire is a seperate sovereign state. At the moment, to travel into either Eire or the UK from the schengen area, you go through passport control. Sometimes twice: once leaving Schengen and once entering Eire or the UK. Now, if Eire/ROI were to join Schengen, I reckon there would need to be full blown border controls on the NI/Eire interface complete with passport checks and customs.
...and they could then participate in the Commonwealth Games too. On a wider political and good will level, it might help relations between ROI and the north.
Interestingly, think this is part of the reasoning for the idea of ROI rejoining.
Since Ireland got independence in 1922, no British monarch has ever visited the Republic.
I am Irish living in the UK, and sometimes I do feel foreign here. But in reality, all the people of these islands are pretty much from the same stock.
and I am Engish and spent 5 years living in the ROI, and was often reminded that I was 'not one of them'
Having said that, I originate from the Midlands and now live in the north east of England, and am often reminded that I am a "soft southerner" bloody cheek, I am from the midlands, that makes me a 'northern monkey', according to those 'soft southerners' from 'that London' anyway.
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Is 'foreign' someone who was born in another sovereign state and who now lives in the UK ?
I wish the BBC would put some weather and temperature symbols on southern Ireland (like Sky News do) even if they don't say anything because it's like they're pretending that this particular land mass doesn't exist when clearly it does.
Be interesting to see what would happen if the Republic of Ireland decided to leave the Common Travel Area, and instead join the passport free Schengen Zone. There'd be fun and games at the NI / ROI border.
Culturally both the UK and Ireland have many similarities, far more than the UK has with the USA or Canada.
Culturally I'd see northern England as having more in common with Ireland than it does with southern England.
Even legally things are iffy. ROI people living in the UK have the same rights as a Brit IIRC.
Yes, they do. The British FCO is a bit behind the times and still thinks that Ireland is part of the United Kingdom.
Interestingly, there has been some talk of ROI re-joining the Commonwealth. They left in 1949.
That'd bring back old memories...:rolleyes:
As someone born in NE I see no similarities to the Irish.
I often felt a kindrid spirit with the Scots rather than southern England.
I suppose that's why I never describe myself as English.
I feel British, and then, if I must, European.
I certaintly don't regard myself as English which I think culturally is more of a southern softie, cricket village greens with warm beer and Eton ****, Wimbledon and Henley (i.e. a bit middle / upper middle class).
I hope it happens.
Purely for how delicious the outrage and retarded rhetoric from the Irish far right would be.
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland_Act_1949#Provisions.
There's also some stuff about Irish and UK citizenship.
...and they could then participate in the Commonwealth Games too. On a wider political and good will level, it might help relations between ROI and the north.
The predominant DNA signature is Celtic/Iron Age Briton/Stone Age, what ever you want to call them, regardless of where you are in Britain.
But very old...
There has not been a border between N.I and Eire for almost 15 years now.
Blimey! They've never married someone from elsewhere?
I don't know what the heck I'd be - half Cornish half Lancastrian :eek: I know the Cornish side dates back hundreds of years, pretty much in one place, but I don't know if any of them ever married a foreigner from elsewhere, i.e. the North
Depends what you mean by 'border'. A couple hundred metres from my home is the border between the London Boroughs of Hackey and Islington. There's scarcely any need for a checkpoint.
I've crossed the border between Mexico and the US, complete with checks, armed police and a wall.
Northern Ireland and Eire share a common land border. NI is part of the UK and Eire is a seperate sovereign state. At the moment, to travel into either Eire or the UK from the schengen area, you go through passport control. Sometimes twice: once leaving Schengen and once entering Eire or the UK. Now, if Eire/ROI were to join Schengen, I reckon there would need to be full blown border controls on the NI/Eire interface complete with passport checks and customs.
Interestingly, think this is part of the reasoning for the idea of ROI rejoining.
Since Ireland got independence in 1922, no British monarch has ever visited the Republic.
Its really the English (Anglo Saxons) who are originally from Germany, Holland and Denmark who are foreigners!:D
and I am Engish and spent 5 years living in the ROI, and was often reminded that I was 'not one of them'
Having said that, I originate from the Midlands and now live in the north east of England, and am often reminded that I am a "soft southerner" bloody cheek, I am from the midlands, that makes me a 'northern monkey', according to those 'soft southerners' from 'that London' anyway.