Well, neither you nor I can say whether that is true. Personally I think you are absolutely wrong but that's another debate.
Yes you can say it is true. There is no such thing as God - he did not create the world in seven days and he isn't looking down on us from a place called Heaven !
I'm an atheist too. So is my husband. But our best friends are Muslim; in fact they were the witnesses at our wedding. They read their holy book, just as Christians read their holy book (which also has some objectionable things in it. But I can categorically say that I'd trust either of them and their families with my life.
It is always heartening to hear that Muslims do not take their scripture literally. As I have said previously on this forum I think most Muslims are more humane than their religions version of God.
that is so true about some of the religious people, the bible bashing headmaster at my school did not like it if the atheist kids do not want to say the prayers or sing any of the hymns he said it was disrespectful not to take part, butthe jewish kids were let off>:(
You must have gone to the same school as Ricky_Barby
Many of them support the Bible even more so and the Bible really isn't much better than the Qu'ran.
The Bible has historical references such as Romans, Pharaohs, Israelites, Pontious Pilate and a narration of what happened by the Apostles. The Quran is the unerring word of Allah and us often wrote in present tense.
The Bible has historical references such as Romans, Pharaohs, Israelites, Pontious Pilate and a narration of what happened by the Apostles. The Quran is the unerring word of Allah and us often wrote in present tense.
See if you can spot the difference.
The Bible contains some Grade A hate speech, although most Christians in the Western world interpret the Bible in a more moderate manner. The same can't be said in the likes of Nigeria an Uganda though.
The Bible contains some Grade A hate speech, although most Christians in the Western world interpret the Bible in a more moderate manner. The same can't be said in the likes of Nigeria an Uganda though.
I would think all holy books have hate speech in them.
The Bible contains some Grade A hate speech, although most Christians in the Western world interpret the Bible in a more moderate manner. The same can't be said in the likes of Nigeria an Uganda though.
The earliest Christian doctrines were established at the Council of Nicea 1,700 years ago, Christianity has been enshrined by doctrines since then and it still bound by them today.
Islams doctrines are Quran and Hadith there has been no attempt to change the ideology in 1,400 years.
Regardless of country using ancient words to make modern laws is wrong.
The earliest Christian doctrines were established at the Council of Nicea 1,700 years ago, Christianity has been enshrined by doctrines since then and it still bound by them today.
Islams doctrines are Quran and Hadith there has been no attempt to change the ideology in 1,400 years.
Regardless of country using ancient words to make modern laws is wrong.
you are so right this is the 21st century we need modern laws for the times we live in NOT ancient laws.
Yes you can say it is true. There is no such thing as God - he did not create the world in seven days and he isn't looking down on us from a place called Heaven !
No I really can't and neither can you whether you think it or not. I think the second sentence is completely irrelevant and meaningless to most people in the world who are given to a religious or spiritual frame of mind.
Both are outdated and shouldn't be taken literally. They were written by priests and clerics, thousands of years ago. They weren't written by God or Allah.
Possibly stoning was a suitable punishment thousands of years ago. Now it's not. Now people are imprisoned. It would be like still living in hay huts when bricks and mortar exist.
I'm of course not suggesting prison for infidelity or anything ridiculous.
I think both the bible and the Koran contain some scary bits. The bible also contains some lovely bits. I'm sure the Koran does too.
If we are being asked to compare and contrast Islam and Mohammed then - In terms of the earthly figureheads i.e. Jesus and Mohammed, I am not a Christian but Jesus wins hands down.
I think both the bible and the Koran contain some scary bits. The bible also contains some lovely bits. I'm sure the Koran does too.
If we are being asked to compare and contrast Islam and Mohammed then - In terms of the earthly figureheads i.e. Jesus and Mohammed, I am not a Christian but Jesus wins hands down.
I like Jesus, and I like Mohammed. But which is better? There's only one way to find out...
I like Jesus, and I like Mohammed. But which is better? There's only one way to find out...
For me nothing beats Dave Allan and the pitched battle between the Pope and Archbishop of C.
If Dave Allan was still alive he's be dead by now as he would have had a go at Islam. Although his humour was primarily affectionate and came from his childhood. I still think he'd have had a go.
Both are outdated and shouldn't be taken literally. They were written by priests and clerics, thousands of years ago. They weren't written by God or Allah.
Possibly stoning was a suitable punishment thousands of years ago. Now it's not. Now people are imprisoned. It would be like still living in hay huts when bricks and mortar exist.
I'm of course not suggesting prison for infidelity or anything ridiculous.
Tell that to the Saudi Arabian Royal family and it's clerical authorities.
It just turns my stomach to see Western leaders crawl around these barbaric dark-age savages just because they have oil (made from trillions of fossilised organisms - very ironic because IIRC the Quran makes no mention of evolution).
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Yes you can say it is true. There is no such thing as God - he did not create the world in seven days and he isn't looking down on us from a place called Heaven !
It is always heartening to hear that Muslims do not take their scripture literally. As I have said previously on this forum I think most Muslims are more humane than their religions version of God.
You must have gone to the same school as Ricky_Barby
You live in a country full of citizens, politicians, and a head of state who support such a publication.
Many of them support the Bible even more so and the Bible really isn't much better than the Qu'ran.
The Bible has historical references such as Romans, Pharaohs, Israelites, Pontious Pilate and a narration of what happened by the Apostles. The Quran is the unerring word of Allah and us often wrote in present tense.
See if you can spot the difference.
The Bible contains some Grade A hate speech, although most Christians in the Western world interpret the Bible in a more moderate manner. The same can't be said in the likes of Nigeria an Uganda though.
I would think all holy books have hate speech in them.
The earliest Christian doctrines were established at the Council of Nicea 1,700 years ago, Christianity has been enshrined by doctrines since then and it still bound by them today.
Islams doctrines are Quran and Hadith there has been no attempt to change the ideology in 1,400 years.
Regardless of country using ancient words to make modern laws is wrong.
No I really can't and neither can you whether you think it or not. I think the second sentence is completely irrelevant and meaningless to most people in the world who are given to a religious or spiritual frame of mind.
Possibly stoning was a suitable punishment thousands of years ago. Now it's not. Now people are imprisoned. It would be like still living in hay huts when bricks and mortar exist.
I'm of course not suggesting prison for infidelity or anything ridiculous.
May as well worship Beowulf for all good it will do.
If we are being asked to compare and contrast Islam and Mohammed then - In terms of the earthly figureheads i.e. Jesus and Mohammed, I am not a Christian but Jesus wins hands down.
It was the Bible I was talking about. ;-)
I like Jesus, and I like Mohammed. But which is better? There's only one way to find out...
A cage fight between the two of them and see who wins ?
For me nothing beats Dave Allan and the pitched battle between the Pope and Archbishop of C.
If Dave Allan was still alive he's be dead by now
Prayers are meaningless unless you mean them.
To me they are totally meaning less as i'm an Atheist.As is singing hymns or RE.
Tell that to the Saudi Arabian Royal family and it's clerical authorities.
It just turns my stomach to see Western leaders crawl around these barbaric dark-age savages just because they have oil (made from trillions of fossilised organisms - very ironic because IIRC the Quran makes no mention of evolution).