That part is not a problem, the real problem is that users report the problems after using the phone normally without bending the phone as shown in the videos. Those videos just show that it can be done much easier with iPhones than other phones.
If the claim is that they bend just by putting them in your front pocket, then we need a video of someone putting it in their front pocket, and taking it out hours later, showing it bent.
Not a video of someone forcefully and deliberately bending the phone.
Again, if it turns out they do bend just by being in your front pocket, they'll be getting returned in their millions, it'll be a PR disaster for Apple and we'll hear all about it.
Anyone want to have a wager whether or not that will happen?
It's ridiculous how much coverage this is getting. If you apply enough force to any smartphone you can bend/break it. Shock horror. There is no issue here.
The iPhone 6/6 Plus are still the best phones money can buy. I hope nobody is dissuaded from buying one because the haters have found an exciting new word to suffix with "gate".
That part is not a problem, the real problem is that users report the problems after using the phone normally without bending the phone as shown in the videos. Those videos just show that it can be done much easier with iPhones than other phones.
Well we won't need a video for that to prove it. Because if what you say is genuinely something that will happen through normal everyday use, it won't take long before there are millions of bent iPhones and people complaining of the problem. At the moment we have just a handful and those on MacRumors generally admit they either back pocketed the device, or were bumping and grinding at a wedding party all night.
I'm betting this story will soon fade away and for 99.99% of people it will never be an issue.
At the moment we have just a handful and those on MacRumors generally admit they either back pocketed the device, or were bumping and grinding at a wedding party all night.
If the claim is that they bend just by putting them in your front pocket, then we need a video of someone putting it in their front pocket, and taking it out hours later.
Not a video of someone forcefully and deliberately bending the phone.
Again, if it turns out they do bend just by being in your front pocket, they'll be getting returned in their millions, it'll be a PR disaster for Apple and we'll hear all about it.
Anyone want to have a wager whether or not that will happen?
That might be quite a boring 5 days long video to watch. These videos show that the 6+ case is easier to damage. Applying a steady but lower force may or may not achieve the same.
I think there is an issue as I remember several ipod touch 5th generation owners (iphone 6 based on this design) reporting that their ipods were bent. However I'm not a man and would never put my phone in my back pocket. I think that it's silly to put a phone on your back pocket and then sit on it and wonder why it's broken. Just like those who put it in a pocket with keys and then complain that the screen got scratched. That's what a handbag is for lol
That might be quite a boring 5 days long video to watch. These videos show that the 6+ case is easier to damage. Applying a steady but lower force may or may not achieve the same.
What's that? Deliberately bending a phone might not achieve the same result as just putting it in a front pocket?
Amazing!
But we should still take the former as evidence of the later, yes?
I think there is an issue as I remember several ipod touch 5th generation owners (iphone 6 based on this design) reporting that their ipods were bent. However I'm not a man and would never put my phone in my back pocket. I think that it's silly to put a phone on your back pocket and then sit on it and wonder why it's broken. Just like those who put it in a pocket with keys and then complain that the screen got scratched. That's what a handbag is for lol
If the claim is that they bend just by putting them in your front pocket, then we need a video of someone putting it in their front pocket, and taking it out hours later, showing it bent.
Not a video of someone forcefully and deliberately bending the phone.
Again, if it turns out they do bend just by being in your front pocket, they'll be getting returned in their millions, it'll be a PR disaster for Apple and we'll hear all about it.
Anyone want to have a wager whether or not that will happen?
Or apple will say that you are "pocketing it wrong" and millions of apple fans will change the way they do things to fit in with the apple "way".... Same with antenna-gate. Even apple admitted there was an issue but rather than return their units in horror buyers instead added a case to their "oh-so-pretty" handsets and started holding them differently
Or apple will say that you are "pocketing it wrong" and millions of apple fans will change the way they do things to fit in with the apple "way".... Same with antenna-gate. Even apple admitted there was an issue but rather than return their units in horror buyers instead added a case to their "oh-so-pretty" handsets and started holding them differently
True story...
I had an iPhone 4. I didn't use a case. I didn't hold it in any special way. I didn't have a problem making calls with it.
Maybe I was just lucky, or maybe the issue only presented on a small minority of cases.
Perhaps there never was an issue and it was the press inventing apple 'hysteria' again. I wonder if that rag the Washington Post was around at the time, Woodward and Bernstein antennagate.
I find it hard to beleive that a company this perfect could make any errors, that were not the fault (upon further investigation) of either the users or apple haters. I think this thread should be closed and people buy a simple cord to hang phone around their neck and stop inventing things.
Apple admitted that there was an issue that caused problems for a percentage of their customers and provided a case as a fix
If jaguar announce a recall for a problem with brakes and I haven't experienced it personally does that mean there is no fault ???
Is there your analogy involves a potentially life threatening issue? Other than melodrama that is?
But no, of course not, but I wouldn't assume that it affected everyone, or that people were keeping their "oh so pretty" Jaguars parked in a garage rather than return them.
The point wasn't that there was no issue, the point was that in all likelihood the majority simply didn't experience the issue, and that was the reason they weren't returning them.
Perhaps there never was an issue and it was the press inventing apple 'hysteria' again. I wonder if that rag the Washington Post was around at the time, Woodward and Bernstein antennagate.
I find it hard to beleive that a company this perfect could make any errors, that were not the fault (upon further investigation) of either the users or apple haters. I think this thread should be closed and people buy a simple cord to hang phone around their neck and stop inventing things.
I find it hard to believe that the issue was as serious as some people would like to believe without literally tens of millions of people returning their faulty iPhones.
Its almost as though anecdotal examples blown out of all proportion on the internet are not actually the experiences that most people have.
The other thing I find hard to believe is that people continue to be surprised by that.
Is there your analogy involves a potentially life threatening issue? Other than melodrama that is?
But no, of course not, but I wouldn't assume that it affected everyone, or that people were keeping their "oh so pretty" Jaguars parked in a garage rather than return them.
The point wasn't that there was no issue, the point was that in all likelihood the majority simply didn't experience the issue, and that was the reason they weren't returning them.
But continuing with the analogy ('cos I like it) if the jaguar solution was to give me a Styrofoam cover to put over my pretty car (rather than fix the issue or offer me a replacement) I'd be a jolly cross driver
What's that? Deliberately bending a phone might not achieve the same result as just putting it in a front pocket?
Amazing!
But we should still take the former as evidence of the later, yes?
No, it proves it's easier to damage with stronger force than other phones, so it may be more prone to damage with a weaker force over longer time. Such cases are often simulated this way. But I see I can leave another thread safely in your hands, so I stop here.
But continuing with the analogy ('cos I like it) if the jaguar solution was to give me a Styrofoam cover to put over my pretty car (rather than fix the issue or offer me a replacement) I'd be a jolly cross driver
If your analogy involves comparing something utterly ludicrous (putting a styrofoam cover over your car) with something that a high proportion of people do as a matter of course (putting their phone in a case), then its not a very good analogy.
And I find it very easy to believe you would post something like that whilst ignoring the main point.
Which was that if it actually had been as serious an issue as I'm sure you'd like to believe, then the phones would have been returned in their millions.
As far as I am aware that did not happen, but will certainly stand corrected if it did.
No, it proves it's easier to damage with stronger force than other phones, so it may be more prone to damage with a weaker force over longer time. Such cases are often simulated this way. But I see I can leave another thread safely in your hands, so I stop here.
The BIB being the important bit.
Charm and sarcasm aside, the point is that tests like that are far from being evidence that the phones will bend literally just from being your pocket.
I hope nobody is dissuaded from buying one because the haters have found an exciting new word to suffix with "gate".
Well I certainly am.
Nothing to do with the haters or any new gate words, but photos and videos tell a story that is quite a concern when your preparing to part with over £600 for a new top of the range gadget.
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I'm sensing sarcasm.
So if I say:
the additional benefit becomes increasingly marginal.
And that gets interpreted as:
there is zero additional benefit.
You don't think I'm being misquoted?
If the claim is that they bend just by putting them in your front pocket, then we need a video of someone putting it in their front pocket, and taking it out hours later, showing it bent.
Not a video of someone forcefully and deliberately bending the phone.
Again, if it turns out they do bend just by being in your front pocket, they'll be getting returned in their millions, it'll be a PR disaster for Apple and we'll hear all about it.
Anyone want to have a wager whether or not that will happen?
Well we won't need a video for that to prove it. Because if what you say is genuinely something that will happen through normal everyday use, it won't take long before there are millions of bent iPhones and people complaining of the problem. At the moment we have just a handful and those on MacRumors generally admit they either back pocketed the device, or were bumping and grinding at a wedding party all night.
I'm betting this story will soon fade away and for 99.99% of people it will never be an issue.
They're bumping and grinding wrong.
That might be quite a boring 5 days long video to watch. These videos show that the 6+ case is easier to damage. Applying a steady but lower force may or may not achieve the same.
What's that? Deliberately bending a phone might not achieve the same result as just putting it in a front pocket?
Amazing!
But we should still take the former as evidence of the later, yes?
Apple won't have done any tests at all for a "bumping and grinding brigade"
How very sexist of you Anika
Or apple will say that you are "pocketing it wrong" and millions of apple fans will change the way they do things to fit in with the apple "way".... Same with antenna-gate. Even apple admitted there was an issue but rather than return their units in horror buyers instead added a case to their "oh-so-pretty" handsets and started holding them differently
The iPhone 5 was susceptible too, apparently. Though I've had one that lives in my front pocket and I've not noticed any bend.
Yet.
True story...
I had an iPhone 4. I didn't use a case. I didn't hold it in any special way. I didn't have a problem making calls with it.
Maybe I was just lucky, or maybe the issue only presented on a small minority of cases.
I guess we'll never know.
I find it hard to beleive that a company this perfect could make any errors, that were not the fault (upon further investigation) of either the users or apple haters. I think this thread should be closed and people buy a simple cord to hang phone around their neck and stop inventing things.
True story ....
Apple admitted that there was an issue that caused problems for a percentage of their customers and provided a case as a fix
If jaguar announce a recall for a problem with brakes and I haven't experienced it personally does that mean there is no fault ???
Is there your analogy involves a potentially life threatening issue? Other than melodrama that is?
But no, of course not, but I wouldn't assume that it affected everyone, or that people were keeping their "oh so pretty" Jaguars parked in a garage rather than return them.
The point wasn't that there was no issue, the point was that in all likelihood the majority simply didn't experience the issue, and that was the reason they weren't returning them.
I find it hard to believe that the issue was as serious as some people would like to believe without literally tens of millions of people returning their faulty iPhones.
Its almost as though anecdotal examples blown out of all proportion on the internet are not actually the experiences that most people have.
The other thing I find hard to believe is that people continue to be surprised by that.
But continuing with the analogy ('cos I like it) if the jaguar solution was to give me a Styrofoam cover to put over my pretty car (rather than fix the issue or offer me a replacement) I'd be a jolly cross driver
I find that very easy to believe
No, it proves it's easier to damage with stronger force than other phones, so it may be more prone to damage with a weaker force over longer time. Such cases are often simulated this way. But I see I can leave another thread safely in your hands, so I stop here.
If your analogy involves comparing something utterly ludicrous (putting a styrofoam cover over your car) with something that a high proportion of people do as a matter of course (putting their phone in a case), then its not a very good analogy.
And I find it very easy to believe you would post something like that whilst ignoring the main point.
Which was that if it actually had been as serious an issue as I'm sure you'd like to believe, then the phones would have been returned in their millions.
As far as I am aware that did not happen, but will certainly stand corrected if it did.
The BIB being the important bit.
Charm and sarcasm aside, the point is that tests like that are far from being evidence that the phones will bend literally just from being your pocket.
Well I certainly am.
Nothing to do with the haters or any new gate words, but photos and videos tell a story that is quite a concern when your preparing to part with over £600 for a new top of the range gadget.